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Re: Once Saved.... Always Saved

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So, did you watch the whole video?


Sorry Phil, What video?

Re: Once Saved.... Always Saved

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So, did you watch the whole video?


Sorry Phil, What video?


The one embedded in the first post of this thread.

Phil

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Re: Once Saved.... Always Saved

Once a person is saved, is he always saved?

Jude 5, RS: “I desire to remind you, though you were once for all fully informed, that he who saved a people out of the land of Egypt, afterward destroyed those who did not believe.”

Matt. 24:13, RS: “He who endures to the end will be saved.” (So a person’s final salvation is not determined at the moment that he begins to put faith in Jesus.)

Phil. 2:12, RS: “As you have always obeyed, so now, not only as in my presence but much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling.” (This was addressed to “the saints,” or holy ones, at Philippi, as stated in Philippians 1:1. Paul urged them not to be overly confident but to realize that their final salvation was not yet assured.)

Heb. 10:26, 27, RS: “If we sin deliberately after receiving the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins, but a fearful prospect of judgment, and a fury of fire which will consume the adversaries.” (Thus the Bible does not go along with the idea that no matter what sins a person may commit after he is “saved” he will not lose his salvation. It encourages faithfulness. See also Hebrews 6:4-6, where it is shown that even a person anointed with holy spirit can lose his hope of salvation.)

Sherlock

Re: Once Saved.... Always Saved

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So, did you watch the whole video?


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Sorry Phil, What video?


The one embedded in the first post of this thread.

Phil


Sorry Phil I see no embedded video. Can you give the link?

Re: Once Saved.... Always Saved

Sorry Phil I see no embedded video. Can you give the link?

Nucc, Sorry the link is not visible to you.

Here it is:

http://www.tomorrowsworld.org/cgi-bin/tw/telecast/tw-telecast.cgi?category=Media1&item=1104423772

You may have to copy a nd paste into your browser's address line.

Phil

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Re: Once Saved.... Always Saved

I don't agree that we are talking the same thing.


Heb 6:4-6
4 For in the case of those who have once been enlightened and have tasted of the heavenly gift and have been made partakers of the Holy Spirit,
5 and have tasted the good word of God and the powers of the age to come,
6 and {then} have fallen away, it is impossible to renew them again to repentance, since they again crucify to themselves the Son of God, and put Him to open shame. (NAS)

The reason I don't believe this is talking about a loss of salvation is because IF you look at the verse, THIS PERSON CAN NEVER BE SAVED AGAIN.

Re: Once Saved.... Always Saved

Nucc, I guess your latest reply was to Sherlock.. but anyway, I was wondering if you were ever able to view the embedded video? Did the link work? I can't figure out why you can't see it, unless you have some sort of java block or something.. oh well...

Oh, and please, use the KJV to post here... thanks.

Phil

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Re: Once Saved.... Always Saved

I'm sorry Phil that particular link didn't work for me, however, I'm aware the link leads to the NEW NAME for the old Herbert W. Armstrong's, Worldwide Church of God.

Was the link in reference to this particualr topic of Once Saved Always Saved? If so, then maybe you can find another way or possibly C&P paragraphs.

PS Why do insist on using the KJV? The KJV is 17th Century language. Do you insist on 17th century language on the street?

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