People have been using Dave Davis spinners with live bait attached somehow off the end, but who wants to haul that in with your fish.

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Thats exactly how I won the Winni Derby Lake Trout Div. many years ago. I won a nice boat tha I sold for $8K. Sewed on smelt behind a Dave Davis trolled 4 feet off the bottom did it. Good Luck!

I use the LUHR_JENSEN atractors in-line with my flies attached 1and1/2 times the flashers lenght works really good but try to keep your speed around 1.5-1.9 if you can this is just my opinion good luck