well thanks for all the replies and(jokes) but i have 2 leadcore setups and i'm not just starting out been fishing the lake a while and i also know how to run a downrigger.. On my old boat i sold the riggers i had so i'm no beginner.. i ran the same 2 weights and releases for 4 years before i sold them and never lost them to the lake.. anyway.. my reason for running the riggers is because if i run 4 leadcore setups i will be untangling line all weekend and not fishing.. i tried running 4 lead core setups and had a lot of problems with them running into each other.... my boat is not that big so running all four they end up tangiling.. i figured to leads out the back 3 colors and 2 riggers at whatever depth i want and i would be good.. thanks for the replies tho..