I was told that all of these 22-24" fish without fin clips are two year old's. I am not sure I believe it, and I have asked for some more info, but I also find it hard to believe a 22-24" salmon is a 6 y.o.
We have boated a bunch of these fish in this size range which do not have fin clips this year. I know there were/is a great population of smelt this year so exceptional growth would not be out of the question in my opinion.
This fish has no fin clips, and was over 20" in early may this year. Hopefully I will hear back from one of the bio's, but I would think a 6 y.o. would be well over 26", and 6lbs if healthy.
It seems many people are fixated on the length of fish! Here are the Mean Length by Age as recorded by NH Fish&Game for Lake Winni. This is for 6 yo
There were no entries in 2014.
These measurements were taken from the fall netting surveys.
I hope this clears up any claims as to a 6yo must be 26+". Guys, the fish do not get that big in Winni, Champlain, yes, Winni no, we could only wish!!!
The fact still remains that in that 10% only 5 Five year olds were netted. unless you gentlemen are miss reading the fin clip charts. And again I ask why aren't you guys taking these fish home instead of putting them back leaving more feed for the future generation of salmon. The last Salmon meeting I went to they we encouraging us anglers to take the old ones for that reason. I also would like to have all you fellas answer this question as well Truthfully now. the question is DO YOU STOP YOUR BOAT WHEN YOU HAVE A FISH ON THE LINE? according to the Salmon pledge you are suppose to. I admit that I DO NOT. what say you guys?
i dont believe in that part of the pledge, nothing worse than trying to pull a big fish straight up. its better to keep an angle on the line pulling the fish forward and up, you land them much quicker this way. i drop the 6 horse kicker to its lowest speed and if its windy turn into the wind but keep a forward motion.
I agree completely with you now Dan. The reason I felt they were not six y.o.'s is I thought they would be bigger. After reviewing the netting results, and comparing it to what I'm seeing on the lake, I can't come to any other conclusion then that these are 6 y.o.'s.
Regardless I have learned some good info from this thread even some just want to argue.
If there were only 5 five year olds netted in 2016 then where are all these 6 year old fish coming from in 2017? OH I know they have been netted for the last five years they are so much smarter now and know to avoid the nets. But not quite smart enough to avoid a spoon or artificial fly that they have seen almost every day of there life a lot more than a fish net they see twice a year. Come on guys Please stop with the "one up man ship" and stop trying to impress. Just fish and have fun.
AND JUST REMEMBER, IN 5 YEARS THOSE FISH WOULD BE ELEVENTEEN YEARS OLD AND COULD HAVE KIDS OF THERE OWN.
Ilucas, I'm sure if you contacted John Viar at NH Fish & Game he would be glad to send you the netting results. If you can't get in touch with him, I would be happy to send you '14, '15 and '16 netting results.
Hey Sully I'm still waiting for that trip to Newfound you promised me. LOL
Hope your seasons been good
A no clip fish can be a "wild" fish. There are a small amount of salmon that actually hatch and survive. They all spawn.
Thanks. I know it's a minute amount that spawn successfully but quite a lot of them do spawn and the eggs don't survive due to the acidity of the water. My point was that a "no clip" fish may be a "wild" fish so it would be difficult to say what age it is.
I have not read through all these posts on this thread yet but a six-year-old I believe is a no clip. I volunteer at the hatchery to clip the salmon in the spring. It's very easy to miss a clip and send the fish back to the pool. If the clip isn't spot on the fin can grow back with slight deformity. Very easy to make the mistake of confusing a fish with the regrown fin.
I emailed one of the bios at F&G and he said the same thing. Most likely misidentified, or missed fin clipped fish that are 3-5 year olds. Although I agree it's a possibility, I personally think we are just seeing a great class of 6 y.o.'s. The five or six I have caught have all been the same size, and also would fit right inline with the size of fish described in the netting results. I think these 6 y.o.'s are actually a bit bigger then previous years results due to all the smelt in the lake.
F&G did report great results from their sonar surveys of smelt last year so this would make sense in my opinion.
The reason I posted that I disagree with him is because the bio I received a response from was not John viar, and it was his best guess. I am still waiting to hear back from john, and the bio I spoke with said he would default to John as he has the measurements from the nettings.....
Dan already posted some of the netting results, and was kind enough to send me some of these last year. If you look at the previous years results, and the average size of 6 y.o.'s at winni (not squam or sunapee) you will see most are somewhere around 22-23" on average. This size combined with a lack of fin clips on the fish is why I have this opinion.
I could still be wrong, and I'll add any additional responses I get to this thread.