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End of season?

Can we legally continue to troll for trout and salmon after 9/30 as long as any that are caught are released?

Re: End of season?

I think you would have a problem. I guess you could go fishing for bass and white perch but I wouldn't want to have to explain it to a judge that you were doing that LOL
But good luck with that

Re: End of season?

You can't fish designated salmon waters like Winni, Squam, Sunapee etc but you can target places that stock trout and do not have salmon (example: Massabessic).

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I've done well at Opechee, Wentworth & Waukeewan. Just don't kill the Landlocked Salmon at Opechee when seasons closed. I agree w/Forry, I'd let the Landlocks, Bows rest on designated Salmon lakes. Though special season on Merrymeeting river flyfishing's open. Should be some nice Landlocked & Bows there. No killing though. Capt. Bobby

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Mike, I believe you may fish the designated laker/salmon lakes for other species until Dec 31.... I just wouldn't target the salmonids. Grey area though for sure.

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As others have stated. If you're only after trout I would say these are your best options. Fugget about the salmon lakes. My .02

http://www.wildlife.state.nh.us/fishing/trout-year-round.html

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JoeG, "Gray area" like you said, although it seems clear to me that the Reg. reads "season closed for the taking of..." therefore as long as you practice catch and release you can fish for salmon and togue till Christmas. Can anyone tell me 100% if I'm right or wrong?

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JV44
JoeG, "Gray area" like you said, although it seems clear to me that the Reg. reads "season closed for the taking of..." therefore as long as you practice catch and release you can fish for salmon and togue till Christmas. Can anyone tell me 100% if I'm right or wrong?


You are 100% wrong. Other species may be fished for and kept but not salmon, Lakers or Rainbows. If your baitcasting a jitterbug in the shallows of a cove you will have no,problem but if your trolling around the open water dragging a mooselook with lead core be prepared for hefty fine and loss of license.. No gray area whatsoever....

Dan

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Dan, how did you come to that conclusion? Is it what you've heard, or read? I'm not trying to argue or debate w/anyone, just looking for a solid answer...just read rulebook again and it seems crystal clear: The TAKING of trout and salmon is prohibited...so if they're being released there's no way you could be fined

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JV44
Dan, how did you come to that conclusion? Is it what you've heard, or read? I'm not trying to argue or debate w/anyone, just looking for a solid answer...just read rulebook again and it seems crystal clear: The TAKING of trout and salmon is prohibited...so if they're being released there's no way you could be fined


NH RSA, definitions...

Take or Taking: Includes pursuing, shooting, hunting, killing, capturing, trapping, snaring, and netting wildlife, and all lesser acts, such as disturbing, harrying, worrying, wounding, or placing, setting, drawing, or using any net or other device commonly used to take wildlife, whether they result in taking or not. Includes every attempt to take and every act of assistance to every other person in taking or attempting to take wildlife, provided that whenever taking is allowed by law, reference is had to taking by lawful means and in lawful manner.

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JV44
Dan, how did you come to that conclusion? Is it what you've heard, or read? I'm not trying to argue or debate w/anyone, just looking for a solid answer...just read rulebook again and it seems crystal clear: The TAKING of trout and salmon is prohibited...so if they're being released there's no way you could be fined


How did I come to this conclusion??...It's the law and the law is quite clear and has been for many years. The word "taking" means targeting or fishing for. If your using salmon or trout tackle in regulated waters after the season is over, your in trouble! Semantics on the wording in the rule book won't get you far for a rule whose intent is known by every experienced fishermen out there. If you have any doubts why not simply place a call to F&G?....

Dan

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Speed limit is just a suggestion and only when you get caught are you fined!

It's my opinion you shouldn't test this law but that's just me.

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I saw two guys out on Ossipee Sunday trolling. Told them closed season and insisted they were good to go....

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Dan is right. Taking doesn't mean keeping. It just means pursuing, and if you're trolling flies or spoons, you'll get fined. Cut and dry.

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For clarification...

NH RSA:207 Fish & Game

TITLE XVIII
FISH AND GAME

CHAPTER 207
GENERAL PROVISIONS AS TO FISH AND GAME

Definitions, Inclusions, Methods of Taking, Etc.

Section 207:1

207:1 Definitions. – Words and phrases used in this title shall be construed as follows:
I. Angling: The taking of fish by line in hand, or rod in hand to which is attached a cast of artificial flies, or an artificial bait, or hooks or other devices for the attachment of bait. A person may have in use not more than 2 such lines at one time. Nothing in this title shall prohibit the use of a rod-holder in a boat.
II. Bag and Creel Limit: The number or weight of any kind of wildlife permitted to be killed in a specified time.
II-a. Baiting: The act of placing meat, carrion, honey or any other food or ingestible substance capable of luring or attracting coyote, fur-bearing animals, game birds, or game animals with the exception of gray squirrel.
II-b. Baited Area: An area where meat, carrion, honey or any other food or ingestible substance is placed, capable of luring or attracting coyote, fur-bearing animals, game birds, or game animals with the exception of gray squirrel.
III. Brook Trout: Charr, commonly called brook trout, rainbow trout, brown trout, and Loch Leven trout.
IV. Closed Season: That period of time during which fish, game, wild or fur-bearing animals or marine species may not be taken or killed, and all periods of time not included within the open season.
IV-a. Commercial Fisherman: Any person who takes, possesses, lands, or transports, on the waters of this state, any marine species by any method for the purposes of sale.
V. Fin Fish: Includes all species and subspecies of fish listed under the definition of fish.
VI. Fish: A member of any of the following classes: Cyclostomata, including, but not limited to, hagfishes and lampreys; elasmobranchii, including, but not limited to, sharks, skates, and rays; and pisces, including, but not limited to, trout, perch, bass, minnows, and catfish; including, any part, product, egg or offspring thereof, or the dead body or parts thereof, excluding fossils.
VII. Fly: A hook dressed with feathers, hair, thread, tinsel or any similar material to which no spinner, spoon or similar device is added.
VIII. Fur-Bearing Animals: Beaver, otter, marten, sable, mink, fisher or fisher cat, raccoon, bobcat, fox, coyote, opossum, weasel, skunk, and muskrat.
IX. Game: Game birds and game animals.
X. Game Animals: Moose, bear, caribou, elk, deer, wild rabbit, hare and gray squirrel.
XI. Game Birds: Ruffed grouse or partridge, spruce grouse, commonly called spruce partridge, pheasant, quail, European partridge, chukar partridge and turkeys.
XII. Guide: Any person who engages for hire, either directly or indirectly, in the business of guiding in this state.
XIII. Guiding: Includes every act whereby a person for hire directs, aids, assists or instructs another person in taking wildlife in this state.
XIV. Inclusion of Dates: Whenever a period is named during which an act is permitted or prohibited, both the first and second dates named shall be included within such period.
XV. Marine Species: Includes all fish which usually inhabit salt water, and all shellfish, lobsters, crabs, shrimps, clams, marine worms, other marine invertebrates and marine plants found in the coastal waters and estuarine waters under the jurisdiction of this state as defined in RSA 1:14 and 1:15.
XVI. Migratory Birds: See federal regulations.
XVII. Nonresident: All persons not coming within the definition of resident.
XVIII. Number; Gender: The singular shall include the plural; and the masculine shall include the feminine and neuter.
XVIII-a. OHRV: Off highway recreational vehicle as defined in RSA 215-A:1, VI.
XIX. Open Season: That period of time during which wildlife may be legally taken or killed.
XX. Person: Any individual, partnership, corporation, association, business trust, political subdivision or any other public or private entity.
XXI. Possession: Actual or constructive possession, and any control of things referred to.
XXII. Protected Birds: All wild birds not included within the terms Game Birds and Unprotected Birds.
XXIII. Resident: A resident of the state as defined in RSA 21:6, except that no person shall be deemed to be a resident who claims residence in any other state for any purpose.
XXIII-a. Revoke or Revocation: The recision, cancellation, nullification or invalidation of a license, the ability to acquire a license, or the ability to participate in any of the activities specified in the revocation.
XXIV. Sell and Sale: Includes barter, exchange, and offering or exposing for sale.
XXV. Set Line: A set line means any unattended line which is placed in the freshwaters of the state, including through the ice, for the purpose of taking fish which is not under the direct view and control of the person placing the line.
XXVI. Small Game: Ruffed grouse or partridge, spruce grouse, commonly called spruce partridge, pheasant, quail, European partridge, chukar partridge, wild rabbit and hare, gray squirrel and migratory birds (subject to federal regulations).
XXVI-a. Suspend or Suspension: The temporary discontinuance or cessation for a period of time of a license, the ability to acquire a license or the ability to participate in any of the activities specified in the suspension.
XXVII. Take or Taking: Includes pursuing, shooting, hunting, killing, capturing, trapping, snaring, and netting wildlife, and all lesser acts, such as disturbing, harrying, worrying, wounding, or placing, setting, drawing, or using any net or other device commonly used to take wildlife, whether they result in taking or not, and includes every attempt to take and every act of assistance to every other person in taking or attempting to take wildlife, provided that whenever taking is allowed by law, reference is had to taking by lawful means and in lawful manner.
XXVII-a. Taxidermy: The process of preparing, as in but not limited to, preserving, stuffing, and mounting the skins of wildlife for compensation.
XXVIII. Transport and Transportation: All carrying or moving, or causing to be carried or moved.
XXIX. Unprotected Birds: English sparrows, European starlings, and the common feral pigeon commonly known as the rock dove, Columba liva, except such birds as are protected by the laws of the federal government.
XXX. When Accompanied: Within sight and hearing, excluding electronic devices, when actual physical direction and control can be effected.
XXXI. White Deer: All deer which are primarily and predominantly white in color.
XXXII. Whole to Include Part: Every provision relating to wildlife shall apply to a part of such wildlife.
XXXIII. Wild Animals: All animals other than domestic animals.
XXXIV. Wild Birds: All birds other than domestic birds.
XXXV. Wildlife: Refers to all species of mammals, birds, fish, mollusks, crustaceans, amphibians, invertebrates, reptiles or their progeny or eggs which, whether raised in captivity or not, are normally found in a wild state.

Re: End of season?

if you are fishing for trout and salmon you are in the wrong. been fishing a dozen years or so intensely on sebago and the lake trout season is open all year now. its pretty difficult to not catch a salmon while fishing for togue this time of year, would be the same white perch fishing this time of year on winnie and not catch a salmon. not sure how a warden would do in that situation. as an example on sebago, right now im catching alot if togue from 12 to 20 feet down fishing, get this, nymphs, wooly worms, small bonefish gotchas, and tiny clousers. and the salmon are right there in the warm water with them, same areas as a white perch would be on other lakes. it actually amazes me winni is not shut down this time of year completely with the fall feeding frenzy thats happening right now. it was an eye opener for me when they changed the law for sebago togue, the fall bait balls errupting on the surface, the diving gulls, saw 29 loons grouped up over a bait ball feeding together last weekend, you never see that. everything is gorging right now