Thanks for the help guys. It just seams that I'm doing something wrong and the only thing I can think of is my speed. I'm trolling faster than most. I really can't afford a kicker motor this year so I will have to make do. I just bought my boat last year. It is a 186 Sea Hunt with a 115 yami on her. I have a radio and will go by the handle scout. I'm trolling lead core line at various depths. The very first weekend I went out was opening weekend and landed one short and lost another. I was trolling live smelt. The next weekend I took a friend out and he caught a 20" salmon. Since then I have been out three times and haven't even had a strike. I hope to try again this weekend. I look foward to talking to all of you out there on the water. I launch out of Meridith Bay. I troll aroung goveners island and was talking with someone this morning, but did not get there handle. I put my e-mail up there so if anyone wants to send me info they can. Thanks for all your help.