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John's laker

Nice fish John... hope to get some free time this weekend if you want company experimenting for lakers... Give me a holler.

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Will do, we need to do some research first.

This weekend will be a busy one we have the 10 x 32 deck and screen room to put on at the camp, but I will squeeze some time in to be on the Lake..

Thanks for putting the photo up, normally I ask Adrien but I figured he would have a bunch from the LCI.

I'll talk at ya later,

John S.

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Nice Laker, John. And you told me there were not any lake trout in Squam. I see you're not giving away all your secrets. ;-)

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Hey there John, Don't forget to throw me an Email or phone me if ya need a hand on Saturday I would be more then willing to come on down and help ya throw that thing up I might even bring some of my Yummy Deer Saugage with me LOL Let me know!!!!!!! Take Care God Bless and Tight Lines LOL Donkey Dave From up North "The Backwards Frenchman"

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Actually I did not intend to mislead anyone about "no Lakers" in Squam, they are in there but don't reproduce (maybe less that 3%) so now and then you might catch a small one, 15" to 18" and I suppose if you target them and have a good technique you can catch a monster. Most of the Lakers in there are left over's from early 90's stocking, when they figured out the lake basin was not good for them to reproduce, they stopped putting any more in, so if you catch one of those, it's going to be a big one.. And I would have to say you have a better chance of getting a big one there if you "target them" than catching a smaller one when trolling for Salmon.

No big secrets with me, well maybe a tiny one or two.

John S.

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Nice fish captian...........Rebel get the 7#er? (+-)
Since the early 80s it still holds its name. Landlocked on Squam is not such a bad thing..........

Popeye

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Nope, but Rebel got a 6lb/13oz Sunday, only bite, one more bite than I got.. Gotta learn better how to get the Lakers off the bottom on those sloooooooow Salmon days.

What are you doing this weekend, more baseball ????

Give me a call, working my butt off at the house all week, a phone call gives me a break now and then.

John S.

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No baseball this weekend, going up to Littleton for a 3 day trout derby. Have won this one a couple times when I use to go up with my brother and dad. Looking for some extra cash for South Beach, or maybe a sail or marlin fishing trip out of the gulf since I'll be down there for 3 weeks.
Call me this weekend, I'll give you reports.

I'll be going up to Champ when I get back from Fla if you want to check out the lake. I got some honey holes up there around Ferisburg and have a need to go up.

Popeye

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Any time, just give me a couple of days notice. Good luck in the Derby in Littleton this weekend, I'll be fishing the LOTG in NH myself.

Have a huge work project going on at the camp this weekend but will find time to fish I suppose. Trying to get Slipknot and Donkey Dave to fish together with me one of the days this weekend, that ought to provide an interesting report

I'll talk at ya while out on the pond.

Thanks,

John S.

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You still looking at having a bash at your camp?

Popeye

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Looks like Slipknot is offering to help and DAve as well, so tenatively we will fish til 11:00 or so than put the deck up and have a bash (cookout) Nothing is final yet, but looks pretty definate. I left this morning for an hour and was gone all day so I haven't had a chance to work out the details, but it's only Wednesday.

I can't believe these guys offere to give up a 1/2 day from a their busy shedules to help, and Dave has to drive 1.5 hours. I hope the fishing is back on, all we need is 3 and one has to be 5+ for Dave, I should sell tickets to watch this show.

John S.

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Let me know Boss, I'm always willing to go fishing with my adopted Dad LOL And yeah that would be quite the report Slipknot and I arguing over who's gonna take the first nap on that luxury liner of yours LOL Take Care God Bless and Tight Lines LOL Donkey Dave From up North "The Backwards Frenchman" Plus i need to get this Goshdarn Donkey off of my back he's getting Heavy LOL P.S. If you have a Bash at your Camp like Popeye said Leave me a message and let me know I'll bring Berlin's famous "Grill Candy" sold by our own butcher here in Berling (This marinated steak is "Awesome") And maybe even some "Beanhole Beans" Yummy!!!!!!!!

Re: Squam report

I was there on Sunday from about 12noon to 7:30pm. Trolled for about 3 1/2 hours off and on and the rest of the time was pleasure. Unknowingly had a bass on a down rigger on a green/gold db LOL. I have given to the Squam gods, 5 colors out in 15 feet of water...oops. What can I say I am a rookie!! Running a 16' Lund Explorer. No Name or handle yet.

You may have heard us on channel 12, my grand daughter was in brother in laws pleasure boat. I see squam does indeed have an interesting bottom. In the event I get to there again, do you want to give up a trolling area so I have half a chance?



Happy Fishing!!

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It's a big Lake but not many real large deep areas to troll so the fish are easy to find, but finding a hungry one is a challenge. The bottom coms up real fast, even when you know the lake well. If you see me out there just follow me around, I don't move far very often this time of year.

If out here try 68, but sometimes we are on 12.

John S.

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Hi John...After fishing this lake for 25 years I still say the fish population is way down and feel we will be unpleasantly surprised by this falls netting results. I too caught some big fish this spring but had many skunks. I have been skunked more times this year than I have total in the past 25 years. It is disturbing to me that most people are either catching 4 pound plus fish or 9 inchers. Where are all the 2-4 pounders???

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I have my fished it for Salmon for about 3 years now and this was also my question last year, but I did catch one about 15" this Spring. All I can say is I hope Fish and Game are 100% (well even 90%) right on with thier prediction that the Lake is still coming back well, better than expected and not on the way down as you seem to feel it might.

One reason for the skunks could be the bait, there is so much as one person pointed out all they have to to is turn thier head and get a mouthfull.

I still would like to see more 15, 16 and 17 inch fish
to feel more comnfortable. I also expect that ice fosheerman are taking Salmon and I think many people are taking the shortr Rainbows, just a gut feeling of course.

They did up the stocking to 2500 Salmon this year as they felt the bait could handle it easily and not because they felt the lake lacked Salmon, I think last few years it has been more like 1500/1800. That could maybe help remove our fears when we see more 14 to 17 inch Salmon. Along with the poachers I think the Lakers that apparently are in bigger numbers than I thought, know the difference between real and fake food, perhaps eat a good amount of the stocked yearlings. However Fish and Game take this into consideration when determining stocking numbers and making predictions, etc.

Bottom line "I still have full confidence with Fish ad Game's plan", however I will feel more relaxed when we see all those "next years 2, 3 and 4 pounders".

We'll give it hell this weekend again, can't get any worse than last weekend, allthough Friday was a decent day with the nice Laker.

Keep in touch, your experience with the Lake is good information for Fish and Game, they need input such as yours.

John S.

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I might add, if we spent half the time spent fishing for Salmon targetting Lakers instead, we would be catching more Lakers (and big ones too) to take the sting off a skunk.

WHEN IS THE LAST TIME YOU FISHED 6 OR 7 HOURS SPECIFICALY FOR LAKERS ON SQUAM ?????? SALMON WE DO IT ALL THE TIME, IN SPITE OF THE SKUNKS.

Not sure we will target Lakers this weekend as fishing time will be limited, that being said, Salmon will of course be our priority, if they don't bite we will come off the Lake and try again Sunday. Will be up most of early July to experiment more on Lakers, and look for my 7 pound Salmon, a fat 6 will do for now.

John S.

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Getting skunked is part of the fish puzzle. Its going to happen, sooner or later, on every lake you fish. You can always catch green fish, but we target the blue backs, which can be as finicky as rainbow in April.
As you know, I have been going to Ontario since Christ was a private (83). in 86, I went up for a week in April, spent 4 full days on the water with 4 lines, and only caught a clam! In 87 we went back, and brought home over 70 browns/lakers/ and cohos for a full week of limits by 10am.....

You got to get one of those Squamy giants to talk to you!!! Find out what is going on, and let the rest of us know what you find out!!!! We need a Limpet!!!

Popeye

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As you well know, I don't get discouraged very easily, I just pout now and then and get right back at em. We do have really great days now and then, especially with the right phase of the moon.

Good luck this weekend, stay dry.

Did you ever get a net, I'm sure you must have, what did you get ???

John S.

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I've been fishing on Squam longer than most, (about 50 years) and this year has been the worst. I usually keep only 1 or two salmon per year, but this year I'm not sure I'll even catch that many.
I'm also wondering if the large kill on the Sandwich shores about 4 years ago has an impact on what we are catching (or not catching) in Squam this year.

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Hey Old Fisherman,
I was in on that kill off. We saw dead salmon everywhere. The ones we caught looked like toilet paper and when you held them to get the hook out your fingers sunk right into the meat!! It was like they were half cooked!
With that said, you have quit a few years on me in the land of the giants. I have had good/bad years, keep lots of records on about anything for sh#ts and giggles. Do you troll live smelt/emeralds? Have gotten a few nice ones down there this year, but nothing like mater angler Sampson. Time is on his side, and I am jellous!! Hit that pond for a few days in a row, and you got to connect with some nice fish. I have caught some small ones this year, and only one that was in the 2-3 lb class, but had another up to the boat.

Popeye

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I stoped in to AJs when I had to bring my first downrigger to Paugus. I looked at the rubber ones, and went with a different one. It goes out to 84" maybe? Blue, got a ruler on the side. Nice scoop for the net, love it. It was the same price at the rubber ones. When John went fishing with me to Squam he loved it so much we had to stop at AJs so he could buy one! call me Friday, don't know what the reception is like up there.

Popeye

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OK, will do.

John S.