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Re: More info about the graph

The Precision Trolling Big Water Edition was put together scientifically, that is to say under control condition. Data was taken on calm water days at a known speed and a diver down to make the observation and record the data. Read the bio’s of the authors. Is there any data out in the fishing world that contradict the data that was collected?

We in the fishing world only provide anecdotal observations, biased with what ever biases that we have been exposed to in our fishing lives.

I don’t believe that any lead core manufactures have done any testing under control conditions. I just received information from Cortland and requested sinking rates for their lead core, they sent me ever thing else except sinking rates. I'll have to ask them directly if they have and performance data.

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Ok, That being said Grey Ghost what are your anecdotal observations based on your own fishing experiances about how fast lead core sinks?

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I will be putting together an article that discusses what we have talked about so far and additional information on lead core in a concise format. When driving up to the lake Friday to fish with Salty, I thought about several other points that are relevant and should be discussed to portray a clearer picture of what is happening when fishing with lead core. This whole process, is a learning experience for me to delve into the nuts and bolts of lead core trolling as to why thing are the way they are. It will take me some time to get the data and present it in a manner that all can understand.

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Thanks to all who shared information on my question. It is great to have a site where everyone shares information so freely. Thanks again

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I by no mean's know 1/2 as much as some of the pro's on here but i do know that i bought a new leadcore set-up from A.J.'s i wish it had the line counter on it but unfortunately it doesn't. When i went up to Canada a few weeks ago My leadcore outfished both the downriggers and my buddy's leadcore set-up (not sure why as he also has 18# lead with approx the same amount of leader) my pole counted for approx 80% of our catch's, but i was also 9-10 colors out with about 75' of 10# fluro, and an 8' leader of 8#fluro attached to it, the other leadcore was catching fish too but also with 9-10 colors out. When i fished the Winni Derby i caught my only nice Salmon out 10 colors down by Rattlesnake and Aardvark estimated i was down about 40Feet, I usually use only Dbsmelt lures and top guns only once in awhile do i put on a bigger spoon such as a big sutton when i'm trying to catch a Huge Laker LOL Only my 2 cents as like i said i don't know 1/2 as much as guys like Adrian and Travis LOL Take Care God Bless and Tight Lines LOL Dave From up North

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It is strange how sometimes the lead core will consistantly outfish the riggers and we know how deep riggers are, lead core is only at best, a good guess.

Travis allways told me if you catch bottom you then know how far down you lead is/was, LOL how trues it is.

When I read about sink rate are we talking about how fast it will sink or how deep ????????? Not really that important to me just thought I would throw it out.

You guys lost me days ago with the first paragraph, especially Gus (Gray Ghost) and Adrien, WOW you guys are talking a whole new launguage for me, LOL.

John S.

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Just a thought on leadcore. With that many colors out.And with a windy day. Would this affect the action on lures. With the wind affecting boat speed also waves.I know underwater currents do. Maybe its the windy days. When leadcore works better. Nothing to back this up. Just thought of this while reading the other replies.