Hey there Craig, More often then not the rutt usually doesn't start up here until the week of the teens, Granted that's not every year but most. If that were the case i would have seen more buck then does LOL but it's still great to see them even if ya can't shoot them Wait till tommorrow though Mooo HHhaaaaaa I'm coming to get ya Bambi !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Take CAre God Bless and Good Hunting LOL Dave From up North