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Re: Re: Re: looking to get peoples opionion on a nh saltwater fishing liscense

Okay here is my two cents....
First of all I have no problem with the extra fee. However I think for freshwater fisherpeople that have already purchased a license that they could have a stamp and separate fee for your license..."for example' an additional fee of say $15. If you don't have a regular fishing license and only want to fish the salt then you get a "salt only " license for say $30. And as Slipnot said you should have one day licenses which would work for the charter guys. I fished on a charter in California and that is what they do.
Good Luck at the Hearing.

Re: Re: Re: looking to get peoples opionion on a nh saltwater fishing liscense

This topic seems to be a double edged blade.. The charter capt. have a great point.. Why would anyone book a NH boat when they could save money going to Ma and Me.. The NH coastline isn't long enough to make anyone stay in NH. I feel like they do in some sense that it wouldn't be fair unless the surrounding states instituted the same fees on there people. I would hate to see an already hurting economy slow more in NH because of a fee.. But the state also needs to find creative ways to solve the budget issues.. there are ways out there but the state doesn't seem to want to explore those.. I am torn.. And I don't even fish the Ocean..

Jay

Re: Re: Re: Re: looking to get peoples opionion on a nh saltwater fishing liscense

thats my point exactly, why fish salt in nh for a fee when the fishing just a short ride away is incredible, i would like to see hikers get charged a fee to climb mountains with the money going to monitor salt water fishing, seems fair since we are funding the rescues.

Re: looking to get peoples opionion on a nh saltwater fishing liscense

I think it's an idea whose time has come. As of today there is no real data on salt water rec. anglers, etc. etc. etc. Managers at state and federal levels hear plenty from commercial interests - with supporting data- we don't have it because everyone is an island unto him/her self. The price? Don't worry about it. Heard ad on radio today for skiing - real deal - $36 for the DAY!! Like to play a round or two of golf? Go to a Redsox game etc. You can't beat a NH license for the price - go every day for the whole season!!!! I suspect that one of the people at the meeting you will be attending will be Bill Carney - a member of the F&G Commission and a real drum beater of a salt water license- if you want to have some fun tell Bill privately you'll be happy to support a salt water license if he'll agree to hold the price for 24 years. - If you're asking want the hell is this about - Bill worked behind the scenes to kill an increase in state duck stamp fee (dedicated monies for habitat improvment) from $4 to $10. Fee has not be increased in 24 years. Ask yourself has any price or fee for anything not increased in 24 years!!

Re: Re: looking to get peoples opionion on a nh saltwater fishing liscense

good to hear from everyone the reason for the marine fisheries license is for new funding mechanisms and data gathering for the nh f+g . the marine fisheries license would generate new license dollars while providing "user funding " for fish +games management of marine resources. I will definetly ask bill carney about the duck stamp fee that hasn't changed in 24 years and if this marine fisheries license fee won't go up in 24 years . I am a under 10 dollar added on fee to our freshwater license which is 35 dollars this year . with all the freshwater fishing I do don't have much time to get out to the ocean . took my boat out to the ocean 3 times last year and fished from shore half a dozen times and went on another boat once. a dollar a day to fish the ocean seems good enough to me ,or no fee at all seems even better. "reel it in " thanks for the heads up whitewing

Re: Re: Re: looking to get peoples opionion on a nh saltwater fishing liscense

how will this affect the people with lifetime licenses ?

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RE: Duck stamp fees, Ed Robinson told me last fall that the state was looking at getting rid of the stamp and raising the fee but adding it to the license as a check off. Less duck hunters means less stamp sales and they are not making money on the stamps. I am all for the checkoff, the raised fee, and the savings from not printing stamps. Ed and his guys do a good job of keeping us informed and keeping the resource in a healthy condition.
my .02
Throbbin Rods

Re: looking to get peoples opionion on a nh saltwater fishing liscense

In my opinion what any of us think about this matter really doesn't matter. I think they already have theirminds made up on what they are going to do. I believe it is not the Fish and game that sets the license fees. I think it is the legislature, and they are just using the f&g as a venue to increase the states Pocket, which in my opinion gets enough from the hunters and fishermen. So I say NO. Let the State go some where else for the monies. They Have Licenses for Plumbers and electricians why not have licenses for heating people and carpenters and such, make the people who profit from working in the state pay before making the people who are already paying PAY MORE. That is just my two cents worth.
come on April 1
Forry

Re: Re: looking to get peoples opionion on a nh saltwater fishing liscense

my fees for the licensing keep going up and their apprentice program is awful I know I taught for three years and the last year they did not even give me code books and or text books for my students . I was teaching code ! If it goes to the right place then fine .

Re: Re: Re: looking to get peoples opionion on a nh saltwater fishing liscense

that's what I'm talking about. I too am an electrician and the fees are always going up , For what. get someone else to pay. I think if we have to pay then make all of the trades pay.

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HORSE ****!!! The ocean is NO MAN'S LAND....and it should stay that way. I don't want to have to buy three licenses so that I can fish kennebunk, exeter and newburyport fo stripers on the same weekend. That's crap.

As for stripers, there's already a BS system where you can catch a fish that is undesized on one side of the **** river but keep it if you were sanding on the other. It desnt make sense and it is way too hard to police (and justify)

Re: looking to get peoples opionion on a nh saltwater fishing liscense

i was a nh resident my whole life, moved to mass a few years ago, the cost of living in nh keeps going up and living down here just across the border seems cheaper and simpler. im opposed to anykind of tax increase or fee unless its very specific for a particular need. just seeing fish and game money go to things like rescue work in a national park tells me that this isnt a fee just for saltwater fishing, they would have to change alot of things for me to believe the money is going where they say it "will". now why would i buy a separate liscense to fish salt water in the small coast line of the border of nh when there is so much more opportunity to fish the mass or maine coast line which is right there, most of you guys up north can get there just as fast as going to hampton to fish. just as an eye opener as to how things are going in nh for taxes, taxes on my lake house in mass and my other one in maine on sebago lake total just over 4ooo dollars per year, how much are the taxes on winni lakefront.im very opposed to new fees, my vote doesnt count any more in nh, but i believe people will fish elsewhere. just my opinion from someone looking from the outside.

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You make me want to cry fishlessman I pay almost that for my one house on 6.2 acres in Former Stinktown of Berlin UGHHHHHHHHH Oh lets not forget i also get $16,000 added to my assesment because i have a lovely view of Mt. Washington UGHHHHHHHH If i gotta pay for the goshdarn view I shouldn't have to pay to ride the Cog Railway or Drive up the Auto road UGHHHHHHH Oh another thing Berling has the 3rd Highest tax rate in the State of N.H. Now tell me that makes sense????????? we ain't got nothing up here UGHHHHHHHHH Thanks i needed to blow off some steam LMAO Take Care God Bless LOL Dave From up North

Fishlessman

Here's the thing with your Sebago/Winni comparison: Maine and Mass have sales and income tax, which means all your fellow, non lakefront owning citizens are paying so you can have cheap taxes on your lakehouse.(And your proud of this?) I don't have a lakefront house and my taxes are $4k a year, so I have no problem with million $ homes on Winni and Squam paying $10-15k a year in property taxes. Which is most likely pretty close to what you pay anyway, with your sales and income taxes. NOTE: I am not speaking about the "view tax" here, this is directed at lakefront property. I also think it sucks that folks that have had their property for generations are forced out because of this, though I can offer no solution, it is supply and demand, and capitalism. The way to make it in this country, and in LIFE, is to work hard, play by the rules, and treat everyone as you wish to be treated. Whining and complaining about the other guy will get you no where.
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Re: Fishlessman

if i was paying 10-15 thousand ayear with added income tax , i would consider myself a weathy man. lets see, 5 percent of 42000 per year is 2100 dollars, i wll be getting some of that back after property tax and insurance deductions. im by no means rich, i still say nh property taxes are bordering on insanity. my sebago camp is owned by myself, brother and dad and i dont feel bad that the property taxes are reasonable there.
if all states in newengland do the saltwater liscense as a whole, i just hope that the fees are for what the are intended for only and only to cover the federal laws that have been explained to me so far.

Re: Fishlessman

Yur not even close in your tax guess for Squam, small farm house, with an obstructed Lake view, no beach rights or water front. House sits maybe 100 yards from the Lake, across rt 3 on a side road, 7500.00 a year.

Ashland, NH has one on the highest tax rates in the State I'm told ????

Big estates on the water are paying 35,000.00 and up for taxes, but if you can afford one of these places 35,000 is s drop in the bucket.

John S.
"Who finds one license is enough for him, a non-resident one at that"

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Here's the thing with your Sebago/Winni comparison: Maine and Mass have sales and income tax, which means all your fellow, non lakefront owning citizens are paying so you can have cheap taxes on your lakehouse.(And your proud of this?) I don't have a lakefront house and my taxes are $4k a year, so I have no problem with million $ homes on Winni and Squam paying $10-15k a year in property taxes. Which is most likely pretty close to what you pay anyway, with your sales and income taxes. NOTE: I am not speaking about the "view tax" here, this is directed at lakefront property. I also think it sucks that folks that have had their property for generations are forced out because of this, though I can offer no solution, it is supply and demand, and capitalism. The way to make it in this country, and in LIFE, is to work hard, play by the rules, and treat everyone as you wish to be treated. Whining and complaining about the other guy will get you no where.
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