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True confessions

I found an old e mail today from Fish and Game that said the stock size in 2009 was 20/pound. I also found other notes and data that confirms 20/lb, not 32/lb that we were told by someone recently.

2008 were 10/lb, not far off from 7.9 in 2007, but for some reason the 2008 stocking seems to have allmost completly disppeared from some of the lakes, Winni "NOT" being one of them. I hope they show up in Squam this spring as 3 yr olds, they very well could.

Big John

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OK my math was never really that good, but if they are stocking on average 10 fish per pound, that basically means each fish weighs 1.6 ounces. I have bucktails that I bought from AJ's that are 1oz and lakers snatch them up like they were nothing. Why doesnt FG realize that these TINY stocked salmon are just laker food? I fully understand that its very hard to stock 24,000 salmon either due to keeping them alive in the tanks or resources such as needing more money etc...but wouldnt it make a LOT more sense to stock 10,000 6oz salmon? I would bet a lot more of them would live. Or even 5000 1lb salmon. I would bet that we would see the fishery improve just by reducing the stock numbers and stocking larger fish.

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Cost is the main factor Scott.

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Well it seems to me that the money could be better spent dropping in 24,000 shiners if they are all gonna be eaten anyways. I saw some of those "pike sized" shiners at the Ice Hole in Brookline that I bet were close to 1.6oz. I still would rather see them only stock half as many fish at twicce the size to give them a chance to actually live and to grow.

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Scott D from Merrimack
Well it seems to me that the money could be better spent dropping in 24,000 shiners if they are all gonna be eaten anyways. I saw some of those "pike sized" shiners at the Ice Hole in Brookline that I bet were close to 1.6oz. I still would rather see them only stock half as many fish at twicce the size to give them a chance to actually live and to grow.


They had 1000's of Browns there, 2.3 to a pound, they were sweet, not sure how long they have been there, probaly about 14" long ?????????

Big John

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Anyone know why there are no Browns in Winni? That could be a lot of fun too....I know we all like Salmon and it is a great fish to catch. If its so expensive to raise them, and the fish arent doing well in Winni, why not look into other options that might do better.....Would people enjoy catching big browns or brookies as much as we enjoy catching Salmon? I think they would....I know I am just spewing verbal diahrea...LOL just trying to provoke some discussion on the topic.

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Scott
I believe that you will find that NHF&G does not stock Browns in Salmon lakes due to their markings and issues in differentiating the two species. This would be a major issue for ice fishing. Not sure if Browns would thrive better than Salmon in Winni due to all the other issues involved. I do think that Browns & square tails, replacing Salmon in Winni, warrants discussion. I am sure that would open many doors, although some may have skeletons in them.
Richard

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Browns could grow to huge sizes in Winni, in my opinion. They are not so reliant on smelt and not as finicky as salmon either. They love crayfish and would also have a field day on the young perch. They are also harder to catch. All this adds up to big fish! I honestly feel Winni could grow trophy browns up to 10 lbs if given the chance. To not have a trophy brown fishery in this state is a sin. This idea definitely deserves consideration by F&G. I hope they read this thread.

Chris

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the problem with stocking half as many fish twice the size is that it cost 4 times as much to get them to be twice the size scott ...but i hear what your saying