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Re: Lovell

I wouldn't want my kids going to a full time academy like this. My kids love hockey but this seems like a bit much. Even if you end up in the NHL or the Olympics (because so many do) there still has to be life after that. Eventually hockey will be over unless you make some kind of career out of it...but there's only so much you can do.

Re: Lovell

Academies have been around for a while.

They are just sprouting up everywhere.

There has always been a need for the model.

Kids who want to pursue hockey whose parents are financially stable. Whose kids hate school and don’t have the academic habits to do well at a prep or school
Where time management is essential for academics.

Wait til your kid is that age and really doesn’t apply himself at school. You will second guess sending them to a prep.

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Right, it's funny to me that so many parents think little joey will be accepted at a prep school just because they have the money and he plays hockey. Some parents have it in their heads I think where they want they kid to go school before he/she is even born. Doesn't always work out that way. White boys are last on the list these days as well.

Re: Lovell

Anon
Academies have been around for a while.

They are just sprouting up everywhere.

There has always been a need for the model.

Kids who want to pursue hockey whose parents are financially stable. Whose kids hate school and don’t have the academic habits to do well at a prep or school
Where time management is essential for academics.

Wait til your kid is that age and really doesn’t apply himself at school. You will second guess sending them to a prep.
If your kid isnt applying themselves at school then get them a full time tutor instead of dumb hockey academy. What's the end goal? College right? If your kid doesn't have the academic habits to cut in high school and sure as &^&*^&#; aint gonna have the academic ability for college and hockey.

Re: Lovell

anon
Anon
Academies have been around for a while.

They are just sprouting up everywhere.

There has always been a need for the model.

Kids who want to pursue hockey whose parents are financially stable. Whose kids hate school and don’t have the academic habits to do well at a prep or school
Where time management is essential for academics.

Wait til your kid is that age and really doesn’t apply himself at school. You will second guess sending them to a prep.
If your kid isnt applying themselves at school then get them a full time tutor instead of dumb hockey academy. What's the end goal? College right? If your kid doesn't have the academic habits to cut in high school and sure as &^&*^&#; aint gonna have the academic ability for college and hockey.
Also true. I knew some hockey players in high school who ended up with D1 scholarships and I dont know how they graduated college based on what they did in high school. Some didn't and left and then went back later.

Re: Lovell

anon
Anon
Academies have been around for a while.

They are just sprouting up everywhere.

There has always been a need for the model.

Kids who want to pursue hockey whose parents are financially stable. Whose kids hate school and don’t have the academic habits to do well at a prep or school
Where time management is essential for academics.

Wait til your kid is that age and really doesn’t apply himself at school. You will second guess sending them to a prep.
If your kid isnt applying themselves at school then get them a full time tutor instead of dumb hockey academy. What's the end goal? College right? If your kid doesn't have the academic habits to cut in high school and sure as &^&*^&#; aint gonna have the academic ability for college and hockey.
Why would I invest in a tutor if my kid hates school work and doesn’t apply himself.

But.

I’ll let you in on a little secret. As a college hockey player they really don’t have to do school work to pass. Just play hockey and make an effort and they will pass you.

Coaches know this.

Players know this.

Professors know this.

More colleges looked at my kid for hockey than grades.

Smarten up.

Re: Lovell

This is true. Hockey academies do very little work. Which I think is somewhat good for the kids, instead of doing the traditional dumb work. They get to skate and workout while other kids are in school learning what y = 8x - 9. I think they should still learn those stupid math equations but not have them do it for 6 hours a day like traditional schools do. These players aren’t here to be carpenters or accountants they are pursuing to be professional or collegiate hockey players. That’s why all of the top teams in the country are academies or teams that all the kids go to public schools together and live with each other.

Re: Lovell

Taylor Hall
This is true. Hockey academies do very little work. Which I think is somewhat good for the kids, instead of doing the traditional dumb work. They get to skate and workout while other kids are in school learning what y = 8x - 9. I think they should still learn those stupid math equations but not have them do it for 6 hours a day like traditional schools do. These players aren’t here to be carpenters or accountants they are pursuing to be professional or collegiate hockey players. That’s why all of the top teams in the country are academies or teams that all the kids go to public schools together and live with each other.
My question is what do they do when hockey is over? Also if they don't have a 'normal' high school experience in a hockey academy how will they be prepared for college?

From what I've heard the academics at Lovell are supposed to be good- Inly curriculum

Re: Lovell

Your math equation is bunk… X could be anything because Y is undetermined in this example. This is another reason to not attend online school.

Re: Lovell

It's always good to have an alternative to prep. My problem is this. If you are paying 50 or 60k for a full season hockey academy then you should be playing 60 games a year agaisnt the best teams in the country. Think NAHA. They play a 70 game tier 1 schedule against the best teams in the country. Lovell has a problem as they dont/can't play in the NEGHL. If you aren't playing the Wizz,BJE, Spits, Breakers, Vipers etc then who are you playing? You can't play VJW 100 times. 60 grand should include playing in the 6 biggest tournaments in the country.
I see Lovell 14s played in the tier 1 bracket at Detroit this past weekend and had a respectable record of 2 -2. Losing 3-1 to LC and 1 zip to Pittsburgh is a good showing. Those are 2 of the best in the country. More of that is what they need.

Re: Lovell

Any private school is expensive these days.

This is only the first year of Lovell academy. From what I see on IG they are getting kids to go there and they are winning games.

60k is a lot of money to ME and I'm guessing other people feel the same based on comments but there are people out there with stupid money right now.

Re: Lovell

anon
It's always good to have an alternative to prep. My problem is this. If you are paying 50 or 60k for a full season hockey academy then you should be playing 60 games a year agaisnt the best teams in the country. Think NAHA. They play a 70 game tier 1 schedule against the best teams in the country. Lovell has a problem as they dont/can't play in the NEGHL. If you aren't playing the Wizz,BJE, Spits, Breakers, Vipers etc then who are you playing? You can't play VJW 100 times. 60 grand should include playing in the 6 biggest tournaments in the country.
I see Lovell 14s played in the tier 1 bracket at Detroit this past weekend and had a respectable record of 2 -2. Losing 3-1 to LC and 1 zip to Pittsburgh is a good showing. Those are 2 of the best in the country. More of that is what they need.
but the U14 team is ranked above Breakers and Vipers... and right behind the others you list. Lovell has the right idea of being more independent - NEGHL is not the answer.

Re: Lovell

So same ranking one is 3500…. Other 60k.
Got it . Seems like good investment 👍🏻

Re: Lovell

Jack Hamby
So same ranking one is 3500…. Other 60k.
Got it . Seems like good investment 👍🏻
It has been.

Re: Lovell

Ranking up over the breakers isn't saying much...but BSB has been around since 1997. Being beat by a league that just started this year is pretty shameful.

Re: Lovell

anon
anon
It\'s always good to have an alternative to prep. My problem is this. If you are paying 50 or 60k for a full season hockey academy then you should be playing 60 games a year agaisnt the best teams in the country. Think NAHA. They play a 70 game tier 1 schedule against the best teams in the country. Lovell has a problem as they dont/can\'t play in the NEGHL. If you aren\'t playing the Wizz,BJE, Spits, Breakers, Vipers etc then who are you playing? You can\'t play VJW 100 times. 60 grand should include playing in the 6 biggest tournaments in the country.
I see Lovell 14s played in the tier 1 bracket at Detroit this past weekend and had a respectable record of 2 -2. Losing 3-1 to LC and 1 zip to Pittsburgh is a good showing. Those are 2 of the best in the country. More of that is what they need.
but the U14 team is ranked above Breakers and Vipers... and right behind the others you list. Lovell has the right idea of being more independent - NEGHL is not the answer.
Then start playing some real teams! You have played 2 tough teams the entire year. That's what 60k gets you? Playing Syracuse, Long Island and Valley Junior 5x a piece isn't making you any better.

Re: Lovell

Is it easy to find good teams to play against you when you're a new team? What league is lovell academy in?

Re: Lovell

anon
Is it easy to find good teams to play against you when you're a new team? What league is lovell academy in?
If they were any good, they would be in the NEGHL. Wizz would crush them.

Re: Lovell

what league are they in? It's their first year around...

Re: Lovell

anon
anon
Is it easy to find good teams to play against you when you\'re a new team? What league is lovell academy in?
If they were any good, they would be in the NEGHL. Wizz would crush them.
Their talent (or lack thereof) has no bearing on whether or not they are in the NEGHL. I am a long-time Wizz parent and, though we are very happy and will go nowhere else, I will tell you that league membership is INCREDIBLY political. I haven't been with ECW since they played in Dracut, but we joined shortly afterward. So I have seen a lot over the years I have watched all three of SF kids play there.

I can tell you with certainty that program membership has little to nothing to do with program strength and much more about geographic location. The league doesn't want a new team playing within a certain radius of an older (NEGHL) team. Otherwise, they would be competing for the same kids. Those programs that do slide into a geographic overlap tend to have connections that allowed them entrance; the owner of the program went to school with or has done business with someone on the board who advocated for them.

So please don't imply that skill is the reason they aren't with us, because that's simply a political thing. Just leave it at, the Wizz would crush them, because we would. Lovell would have a good game vs our 2s though ;)

Re: Lovell

An admittedly obnoxious ECW parent
anon
anon
Is it easy to find good teams to play against you when you\\\\\\\'re a new team? What league is lovell academy in?
If they were any good, they would be in the NEGHL. Wizz would crush them.
Their talent (or lack thereof) has no bearing on whether or not they are in the NEGHL. I am a long-time Wizz parent and, though we are very happy and will go nowhere else, I will tell you that league membership is INCREDIBLY political. I haven\'t been with ECW since they played in Dracut, but we joined shortly afterward. So I have seen a lot over the years I have watched all three of SF kids play there.

I can tell you with certainty that program membership has little to nothing to do with program strength and much more about geographic location. The league doesn\'t want a new team playing within a certain radius of an older (NEGHL) team. Otherwise, they would be competing for the same kids. Those programs that do slide into a geographic overlap tend to have connections that allowed them entrance; the owner of the program went to school with or has done business with someone on the board who advocated for them.

So please don\'t imply that skill is the reason they aren\'t with us, because that\'s simply a political thing. Just leave it at, the Wizz would crush them, because we would. Lovell would have a good game vs our 2s though ;)
This is the truth - NEGHL is incredibly political and it mainly benefits 3 teams at the top of the Tier 1 and Tier 2 levels. It has nothing to do with skill and everything to do with protecting those 3 clubs.

Re: Lovell

anon
anon
anon
It\\\'s always good to have an alternative to prep. My problem is this. If you are paying 50 or 60k for a full season hockey academy then you should be playing 60 games a year agaisnt the best teams in the country. Think NAHA. They play a 70 game tier 1 schedule against the best teams in the country. Lovell has a problem as they dont/can\\\'t play in the NEGHL. If you aren\\\'t playing the Wizz,BJE, Spits, Breakers, Vipers etc then who are you playing? You can\\\'t play VJW 100 times. 60 grand should include playing in the 6 biggest tournaments in the country.
I see Lovell 14s played in the tier 1 bracket at Detroit this past weekend and had a respectable record of 2 -2. Losing 3-1 to LC and 1 zip to Pittsburgh is a good showing. Those are 2 of the best in the country. More of that is what they need.
but the U14 team is ranked above Breakers and Vipers... and right behind the others you list. Lovell has the right idea of being more independent - NEGHL is not the answer.
Then start playing some real teams! You have played 2 tough teams the entire year. That's what 60k gets you? Playing Syracuse, Long Island and Valley Junior 5x a piece isn't making you any better.
So if you are correct, then are the U14 Wizards improving this year?
in ten league games, they are 9-0-1 with 46 goals for and 8 against. Is this good competition? Not sure beating the Flames 9-0 does much for them, right?

Re: Lovell

Birdie told me two of their health bombs ended up at Lovell .

Re: Lovell

Oscar Johnson
Birdie told me two of their health bombs ended up at Lovell .

health bomb?

Re: Lovell

anon
anon
anon
anon
It\\\\\\\'s always good to have an alternative to prep. My problem is this. If you are paying 50 or 60k for a full season hockey academy then you should be playing 60 games a year agaisnt the best teams in the country. Think NAHA. They play a 70 game tier 1 schedule against the best teams in the country. Lovell has a problem as they dont/can\\\\\\\'t play in the NEGHL. If you aren\\\\\\\'t playing the Wizz,BJE, Spits, Breakers, Vipers etc then who are you playing? You can\\\\\\\'t play VJW 100 times. 60 grand should include playing in the 6 biggest tournaments in the country.
I see Lovell 14s played in the tier 1 bracket at Detroit this past weekend and had a respectable record of 2 -2. Losing 3-1 to LC and 1 zip to Pittsburgh is a good showing. Those are 2 of the best in the country. More of that is what they need.
but the U14 team is ranked above Breakers and Vipers... and right behind the others you list. Lovell has the right idea of being more independent - NEGHL is not the answer.
Then start playing some real teams! You have played 2 tough teams the entire year. That\'s what 60k gets you? Playing Syracuse, Long Island and Valley Junior 5x a piece isn\'t making you any better.
So if you are correct, then are the U14 Wizards improving this year?
in ten league games, they are 9-0-1 with 46 goals for and 8 against. Is this good competition? Not sure beating the Flames 9-0 does much for them, right?
They win agaisnt the good teams when they need to. On MHR it looks like the beat 2MN teams, Top 5 Canadian team, Little Caesars, Philly and Pittsburgh. Tied BJE who has to be the most inconsistent team in America. Lost 2 -1 to a MN all star team. I'm not part of them but yea it would seem like they would want to play in more top tournaments to get better competition.

Re: Lovell

I think they are the future. They have had a good first year it’s been kinda chaotic because they are staying in hotels because the academy isn’t finished yet. 60k is ridiculous especially for online school…online school is free the town pays for it. Lovell does have the connections that most coaches do not have which is a good thing. But lovell/advantage coaches are kinda crazy. They have good skills i’ve heard but the coaches do not know how to coach.

Re: Lovell

Is it just online school?

Re: Lovell

I don’t know. Right now I know it’s online school because they’re staying in the hotel. And I know they’ve hired teachers but since the academy isn’t done yet they can’t teach their so i’m not sure. The academy was supposed to be finished at the end of last may beginning of june and I took my kid for a tournament there a couple weeks ago and the academy is not even close to being done and the rink will is open to skate but their bar and all the other fun activities aren’t done. I believe

Re: Lovell

Bar and Restaurant are done/open. Bowling alley looks done too.

Re: Lovell

I recently spoke to a Lovell parent. It is NOT online. They have real teachers (I don't know anything about the teachers or the curriculum). They're using spaces within the rink that are unused during weekdays.

Re: Lovell

John
I recently spoke to a Lovell parent. It is NOT online. They have real teachers (I don't know anything about the teachers or the curriculum). They're using spaces within the rink that are unused during weekdays.
Yes, the classrooms they will have aren't finished yet. Buildings still in progress.

Re: Lovell

I recently was chatting with a Lovell parent. He said they have real teachers (i.e. not online).

Re: Lovell

I think what people are forgetting in their answers is they are an academy. They don't need to play in a league. Guy above was correct. Look at NAHA. Half the price and 3 x the games. Games agaisnt top tier 1 competition across North America. That is what Lovell should be doing. If you are willing to attend a hockey academy you need to be willing to travel. Travel to the competition and top tournaments is the key if you want to play the best. Otherwise you sit home and play VJW and other **** clubs around NE and NY.

Re: Lovell

Perhaps Lovell is working on getting into more tournaments. It's their first year. Sheesh.

Re: Lovell

anon
I think what people are forgetting in their answers is they are an academy. They don\'t need to play in a league. Guy above was correct. Look at NAHA. Half the price and 3 x the games. Games agaisnt top tier 1 competition across North America. That is what Lovell should be doing. If you are willing to attend a hockey academy you need to be willing to travel. Travel to the competition and top tournaments is the key if you want to play the best. Otherwise you sit home and play VJW and other **** clubs around NE and NY.
Because playing the flames and winning 9-0 is good hockey! Haha

Re: Lovell

Anon
anon
I think what people are forgetting in their answers is they are an academy. They don\\\'t need to play in a league. Guy above was correct. Look at NAHA. Half the price and 3 x the games. Games agaisnt top tier 1 competition across North America. That is what Lovell should be doing. If you are willing to attend a hockey academy you need to be willing to travel. Travel to the competition and top tournaments is the key if you want to play the best. Otherwise you sit home and play VJW and other **** clubs around NE and NY.
Because playing the flames and winning 9-0 is good hockey! Haha
Lovell lions beat the flames 9 to 0 ?

Re: Lovell

Anon
Anon
anon
I think what people are forgetting in their answers is they are an academy. They don\\\\\\\'t need to play in a league. Guy above was correct. Look at NAHA. Half the price and 3 x the games. Games agaisnt top tier 1 competition across North America. That is what Lovell should be doing. If you are willing to attend a hockey academy you need to be willing to travel. Travel to the competition and top tournaments is the key if you want to play the best. Otherwise you sit home and play VJW and other **** clubs around NE and NY.
Because playing the flames and winning 9-0 is good hockey! Haha
Lovell lions beat the flames 9 to 0 ?
Try to stay up and actually read the post. Cliff notes: Wizzies beat flames 9 zip. People are ragging Lovell for not playing real competition and someone said Wizz clobbering teams 9 zip isn't making them any better either and they play in the NEGHL. Both of the teams need to take that almighty big step and fill out the application for some of the good National tournaments. Pay the 1500 bucks AND travel to them and play. Not too difficult.

Re: Lovell

Anon
anon
I think what people are forgetting in their answers is they are an academy. They don\\\'t need to play in a league. Guy above was correct. Look at NAHA. Half the price and 3 x the games. Games agaisnt top tier 1 competition across North America. That is what Lovell should be doing. If you are willing to attend a hockey academy you need to be willing to travel. Travel to the competition and top tournaments is the key if you want to play the best. Otherwise you sit home and play VJW and other **** clubs around NE and NY.
Because playing the flames and winning 9-0 is good hockey! Haha
Who put the Flames in NEGHL upper tier 1? There is your problem. 0-7-1 gf 6 GA 39

Re: Lovell

The Lovell girls are mainly 09’s. The top Wizards team is almost all 08’s. A year of Lovell development they will at the top of the U14’s by the time they are 08’s.

Re: Lovell

Anon
The Lovell girls are mainly 09’s. The top Wizards team is almost all 08’s. A year of Lovell development they will at the top of the U14’s by the time they are 08’s.
Ummm...OK, keep justifying that 60k daddy.

Re: Lovell

Lovell lost to u13 Warriors 2-1 today. The 2 most loved teams in Mass.

Re: Lovell

Anon
Lovell lost to u13 Warriors 2-1 today. The 2 most loved teams in Mass.
I could not find the score - thank you for letting me know. I spent most of my Sunday trying to find out.

Re: Lovell

Anon
The Lovell girls are mainly 09’s. The top Wizards team is almost all 08’s. A year of Lovell development they will at the top of the U14’s by the time they are 08’s.
You are forgetting the factory doesn't slow down over there in Bedford. Your implying that the 09 Lovell girls will develop and be on top next year. Wizards will do the same they do every year. 08s will age up. Best 09s will stay on the team, best 09s from 2nd team will move up and best 10s from 12s will move up. Quick look at MHR shows their 12s at #1 and their 14 -2s at #2. I doubt they are worried about their pipeline. Wash, rinse repeat.