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I guess I question why there is a need for this for kids who are under 12. If people have any clue what they're doing they should know how to find teams that would be good for them to play against.
Besides it sounds like most teams just play teams within their leagues and often aren't allowed to play teams from other leagues? I call BS on the reason this was created was to help teams. It wasn't. Someone wanted to make money and that was all they cared about regardless of what it did to hockey or the self esteem of some kids when it comes to playing.
The creators have given countless interviews about it. They live in Michigan (I think, but somewhere in midwest) and their sons' teams were consistently crushing the teams in their area and at tournaments so they started to scrub hockey league standings to determine how good teams are in their area so they could field more competetive games. That was the original reason it was created as it caught on it has obviously grown to something far larger than that including becoming a money making machine. But I also thought they recently said they would not be ranking teams below 12U however my daughters team is 10U and they are ranked so maybe I misheard that.
Right, MHR would make sense if all teams within MA played against each other but they do not.
There are only a handful of teams that don't play in the NEGHL. If you chose those teams, please stop complaining. Own your choice or stop caring about rankings.
Those rankings are useful when tournaments come around. Aside from that, they are for parents to obsess over. They are also usually pretty accurate.
What teams dont play in the NEGHL?
how do these rankings make sense when E9 teams and EHF teams don't play against each other? I think that is point being made here.
Girl's thread. Know your audience.
apparently it isn't just girls anymore now. the whole MHR does not make sense in MA.
They may not play each other, but there will be common opponents, they all play in tournaments. Once you have one common opponent then the math works out. The issue with MHR comes when you have statical islands, that when a group of teams don't play anyone outside of their group (either because of location: like Alaska or skill: like town). Then those teams have a rating that's not accurate until one of them plays someone that someone else in the rankings has played.
Wake up buddy. Ever heard of an NCAA poll? Same theory. Those teams that you say are undefeated have probably played nothing but scrubs. The team ranked above them , with the losses you mention, probably has one of the highest strength of schedule rankings. Some programs are known to start their teams in a lower division than they should be in to start racking up those wins. Those “town” teams people are mentioning are loaded with NEGHL girls from multiple programs. When those club girls don’t show up, the teams are low level teams.
So if this works how come there are teams in the EHF and E9 that destroy all the other teams in the league when they play them?
You know this is the girls dboard, right? But, to entertain your post, the EHF and E9 are not based on rankings. They are leagues with founding members and auto-bids.
Jesus there is crossover somewhere at every age. No one cares if you are 10 and 0 and have played ****ty competition. You will be ranked far higher if you are 5 and 5 and have played all top teams. It's not that difficult to figure out. It's a ranking system. It's meaningless unless you are a Nationals bound team and end up with an at large bid. Stop getting your undies in a bunch.
Since this is a girls thread I will say this. The one issue I have with MHR is the MN teams. The tier 1 teams (really geographic all star teams)start their season in September and end it the 3rd week of October. They don't play again after that until Nationals. My biggest issue is many of them don't travel to any big tournaments. They host one tournament at 14 and 16 u and you do get some some crossover there but once the 3rd week of October rolls around wherever those MN teams are in the rankings they are staying. Look at the MN tournament and i think there was one East Coast team that went. Other teams will play the rest of the year and you can not move past those teams as they aren't playing anymore.
EHF and E9 do play each others in tournaments. Which is where the ranking are helpful. Like anything else there are flaws and anomalies but as more data is compiled it becomes pretty accuracy. While there are benefits to having the rankings there are also some negative things it creates.
Do Tournament results get entered at some point or is that on someone to report them?
from what i've heard tournaments are counted in. I dont know who enters that info or when.