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Anon
Sep 22, 2016 - 7:09PM
Re: Mass State Hockey Coaches Association

anon
You should teach a class--"Schmoozing for hockey success" You just proved the other guy's case against the "if you're a food player we will find you" malarkey.
If you think that is just the key for hockey success, I'm willing to bet you are stuck in a dead end job, or among the 35% of unemployable Americans, hating life. It is ALL about networking, and making connections, and promoting yourself.

Yes, the days of scouts driving around the midwest looking for a guy dribbling a ball on a bare patch of dirt with a basketball hoop are over. You have to make yourself accessible. If that's proving the guy's point, then so be it.

"You make your own luck. You know what makes a good loser? Practice."

- - Ernest Hemingway

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anon
Sep 22, 2016 - 8:37PM
Re: Mass State Hockey Coaches Association

Anon
anon
You should teach a class--"Schmoozing for hockey success" You just proved the other guy's case against the "if you're a food player we will find you" malarkey.
If you think that is just the key for hockey success, I'm willing to bet you are stuck in a dead end job, or among the 35% of unemployable Americans, hating life. It is ALL about networking, and making connections, and promoting yourself.

Yes, the days of scouts driving around the midwest looking for a guy dribbling a ball on a bare patch of dirt with a basketball hoop are over. You have to make yourself accessible. If that's proving the guy's point, then so be it.

"You make your own luck. You know what makes a good loser? Practice."

- - Ernest Hemingway


"Shmoozing for Hockey Success: How to get your mediocre player into a mediocre NCAA program". If you've got to work that hard to get your kid noticed its because he's not worth watching.

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The Dude
Sep 22, 2016 - 9:38PM
Re: Mass State Hockey Coaches Association

You must have a kid under the age of 15.... Wait and see, you will be amazed how they stack the deck

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anon
Sep 22, 2016 - 9:51PM
Re: Mass State Hockey Coaches Association

The Dude
You must have a kid under the age of 15.... Wait and see, you will be amazed how they stack the deck


If your kid truly stands out he will be noticed. Problem is very few kids fit that description. Most kids are in the "middle" and that's when all the schmoozing can pay off, but to what purpose?

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Anon
Sep 23, 2016 - 7:43AM
Re: Mass State Hockey Coaches Association

Anon
Anon
THE biggest lie in hockey that has been told for generations is: "If you're a good player, we'll find you."

Maybe it should be restated; "If you are connected, your father or uncle played in the NHL, your dad is a D-1 coach, an NHL scout or an NHL front office employee, if your blood line is scattered with D-1 and NHL DNA or your brother is already onboard, if you played in the right program or for the right coaches and went to the right camps we will find you."

The differences between D-1 and top-end D-3 is so slim. Look at the legacy kids who get moved along while everyone else scratches their heads and know if the back of the kid's sweater said "Kaplinski" instead of "NHL Offspring" the kid would have faded from the scene as he graduated high school.

How about the story of the local kid that played public h.s. hockey and went out to the Midwest on his own and the USHL coaches said, "Kid, where have you been?" Local experts and local high school coaches all missed it evidently. They didn't "find him."
Then that kid's father didn't do enough to help his kid. And I highly doubt he went "unnoticed" by his coaches - more likely, they didn't feel the need to help him. Maybe he was just a late bloomer. Maybe he finally got his head on straight.

I have no such blood line, my kid is above average but still developing, and I got called by a highly credentialed advisor earlier this year. He heard about my kid from a coach we both know, and is now helping us. Meaning, if he develops, he won't go unnoticed.

My kid sees me making connections all the time - leaving positive impressions with guys with strong connections in the sport. I'm friendly with at least a half dozen guys with NHL teams and D1 college coaches on their cell phones that wouldn't hesitate for a second to help us out when the time comes, if I asked. Why? Because I'm nice to people, I'm considerate of them, my kid has a great attitude and works his butt off every day, and everybody that works with him know it. People like to help people that they like.

And I'm protective of those relationships. I'm not asking for favors now, because we don't need favors now.

So, it's not a lie. It's just that most parents don't understand that the saying "what goes around comes around" can be good, as well as bad.


Sorry your kid isn't very good, the bigger problem is that your kid will eventually have to take care of himself, or will your relationships take care of the rest of his life as well? Your an example of what's wrong with parents now a days.

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anon
Sep 23, 2016 - 9:01AM
Re: Mass State Hockey Coaches Association

Anon
Anon
Anon
THE biggest lie in hockey that has been told for generations is: "If you're a good player, we'll find you."

Maybe it should be restated; "If you are connected, your father or uncle played in the NHL, your dad is a D-1 coach, an NHL scout or an NHL front office employee, if your blood line is scattered with D-1 and NHL DNA or your brother is already onboard, if you played in the right program or for the right coaches and went to the right camps we will find you."

The differences between D-1 and top-end D-3 is so slim. Look at the legacy kids who get moved along while everyone else scratches their heads and know if the back of the kid's sweater said "Kaplinski" instead of "NHL Offspring" the kid would have faded from the scene as he graduated high school.

How about the story of the local kid that played public h.s. hockey and went out to the Midwest on his own and the USHL coaches said, "Kid, where have you been?" Local experts and local high school coaches all missed it evidently. They didn't "find him."
Then that kid's father didn't do enough to help his kid. And I highly doubt he went "unnoticed" by his coaches - more likely, they didn't feel the need to help him. Maybe he was just a late bloomer. Maybe he finally got his head on straight.

I have no such blood line, my kid is above average but still developing, and I got called by a highly credentialed advisor earlier this year. He heard about my kid from a coach we both know, and is now helping us. Meaning, if he develops, he won't go unnoticed.

My kid sees me making connections all the time - leaving positive impressions with guys with strong connections in the sport. I'm friendly with at least a half dozen guys with NHL teams and D1 college coaches on their cell phones that wouldn't hesitate for a second to help us out when the time comes, if I asked. Why? Because I'm nice to people, I'm considerate of them, my kid has a great attitude and works his butt off every day, and everybody that works with him know it. People like to help people that they like.

And I'm protective of those relationships. I'm not asking for favors now, because we don't need favors now.

So, it's not a lie. It's just that most parents don't understand that the saying "what goes around comes around" can be good, as well as bad.


Sorry your kid isn't very good, the bigger problem is that your kid will eventually have to take care of himself, or will your relationships take care of the rest of his life as well? Your an example of what's wrong with parents now a days.


Well put.

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