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The above poster is spot on. And if the team is pretty bad or the numbers were low you can probably bet that it has already been addressed in the past. And if they didn't ask him to play or "recruit" kids going into 8th, then it was probably denied somewhere down the road in the past.
Our local HS team went from a top 20 D1 highschool contender to getting the 8th grade waiver due to lack of participants, where 8th graders are starting on varsity. What a shame
Ha! Our high school coach has no idea who can / cannot play until the kids are at least sophomores. The idea he would actually know and allow an 8th grader to play is beyond believable.
My point was:
The shame is that none of them can play, it is based purely on not being able to fill the team due to low numbers. The coach in most cases has no idea what type of player they are but if the 8th grader played Town B hockey and can skate they are in, and starting as a freshman. Its pathetic what has happened to the program.
The coach inquired where my son was planning on going to middle school when he was in fifth grade based on the fact that he played club hockey. He is not stud by any stretch so that tells you where public school HS hockey is at these days.
Also a lot of times the coaches do camps or youth hockey teams as well so they are familiar with a lot of the kids so knowing an 8th grader could play is not that far fetched.
You know beatcuff, you're starting to grow on me.
Any opinion on 'Title IX' and what it means for athletic programs specifically hockey? I'd like to hear what a H.S. coach thinks of this.
I think our school eye-balls actual participation numbers as well as sports / teams. I think in our town Football can have Freshmen, JV, Varsity as it's off set by Dance Team, Cheerleading and Field Hockey. Then they capture more female participants to even it out by having a couple 'no cut sports' like Track, Cross Country and Crew.
We have paid Varsity Boys Hockey assistant coaches due to it being a large program - guys hoping to one day be the varsity coach. The audit uncovered the relatively newly launched Girls Varsity Ice Hockey program had volunteer assistant coaches - just young women who were willing to help out a team they once played on - and the finding was they needed to be paid. Imagine being a 22 year old and getting the call that you need to take $6,500 a year for the past three of four years for hanging out with the girls hockey team.
If you ever get to read a Title IX State Audit of a program it is quality reading....I wonder if their findings are 'public records'?
If your kid is as big as an average junior or senior then go for it. If under 160 pounds don't rush it. Too many idiot parents do this. I know one eighth grade parent now that is going to let his tiny kid try and play on their crappy high school team. Kid weighs 105 pounds soaking wet. He will be one hit away from his high school hockey career ending.
You should definitely send your 100lb kid out on the ice with 200 pounders and see what happens
Nice work on the fact checking. Very accurate. I have a freshman son it was 130 pounds and I feel he is undersized to play Varsity this year.
And who is this top 85 pound u14 you speak of?
Never said anything about my kid, making the show, no dreams or aspirations to play that high, because he is a realist. But being undersized is not an issue of his, I was just making a point.
TL transferred to UMASS Amherst and got suspended for violation of NCAA rules and academically red shirted. Too bad because he was good!!
I think size is a family problem that limited TL's prospects as well. Why on earth work Dad put him through it as a defensemen? Same goes for the Little Super Star currently playing at BC. Got ran over in high school hockey, got ran over in the USHL and now is getting run over at BC. When will someone bite the bit and move the kid upfront??? To paraphrase Waylon Jennings, " Daddy don't let your babies grow-up to be undersized defensemen."
The game has changed but come on. The guy saying "if he can grow to even 5'6 or 5'7 and put on some size with age, then watch out" is out of his gourd. There is no place for a 5'6" defensemen. Watch 5'9" 180 lbs. Torey Krug. Short little crappy strides, too slow, no reach, gets killed in front of the net and all he is is a way overpaid, bottom pairing, power play specialist and he is a one in a million! Look at our old pal Lil' Tidbit, lead the Q in scoring for two straight years and is a magician with the puck and at 5'8" for a forward and he gets no respect. Look at the Little Super Star (5'8") at BC and everyone in H.S. was "oh look at his skating, look at his skating..." and look at him with the big boys. Undersized and the skating isn't all that special now is it? TL is no fool, if the kid doesn't grow he will move him up front.
If a kid is strong decent size, A "smart" player that keeps head up, skilled enough and assuming the coach will use him in situations that are fitting, why hold him back. Yes there's a chance he could get hurt but there's a chance they can all get hurt. What a about those kids that didn't even start playing hockey till 7th or 8th grade and then get on a HS team skating with head down and don't know the game. That's an even worse scenario! I'de rather see a skilled 8th grader with good hockey sense out there.
I have no idea what school your kid goes to but "What a about those kids that didn't even start playing hockey till 7th or 8th grade and then get on a HS team skating with head down" doesn't happen at our H.S. Kids that start in the 2nd or 3rd grade are late bloomers for most average to good teams.
sounds like a great team to be on.