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Re: Hockey Academy

anon
Is it possible that not all of the prep games get reported to MHR?
It. Doesn't. Matter. 30+ is a subset of 20+. Who the **** cares? It's a nuance. One doesn't describe Prep hockey materially differently than the other. It's just a couple of guys needing to feel that they know more than the next guy and need to do some dick swinging to prove it (in their minds). Or maybe they feel threatened by the development of alternate models - like Selects Academy - that are better than Prep.

The NE publics are becoming irrelevant in terms of player development for the next level. The CC is down as well, so much so that they couldn't even dominate the publics in the Super 8. Preps are becoming weaker as more and more 14 and 15 year olds are recruited and promised playing time, whether they are ready or not. As soon as the local studs realize that going to the USHL after two years in a public or prep is the more successful path, the preps could really be hurting. The NTDP Class of 2017/18 is dominated by full season players.

It's evolve, or die.

To me, the Selects Academy model is the future. Because you get both the development that comes with a hockey-first environment but still benefit from a prep school education. And that's what the OP asked about.

Re: Hockey Academy

Anon
anon
Is it possible that not all of the prep games get reported to MHR?
It. Doesn't. Matter. 30+ is a subset of 20+. Who the **** cares? It's a nuance. One doesn't describe Prep hockey materially differently than the other. It's just a couple of guys needing to feel that they know more than the next guy and need to do some dick swinging to prove it (in their minds). Or maybe they feel threatened by the development of alternate models - like Selects Academy - that are better than Prep.


The OP's premise was that preps schools don't really give you the proper amount of ice time as compared to some of the alternatives, Selects, SSM, FS Midget. Although I partly agree he is patently misrepresenting the facts which around these parts is pretty typical. I could give a flyin F but since he seems like a smug Dbag, I figured i would call him out. Perhaps his experience is:

His kid plays in 20 games a season

He pays full freight
His kid plays JV
His kid picks apples and goes to the mall with the international students on the weekends in the fall.
He has small hands
His kid did not get into prep school.

The kids we know ( Incl my kids) :

Get a good education and a discounted price and have an experience.

Play 15-20 games in the fall and are on the ice 3-4 a week.
Play a schedule of 28-40 games in the winter and on the ice 5-6 days a week between Nov-March.
Take a break in the Spring.
Skate a few days in the summer and play a few tournaments, work out, work, enjoy the summer.


Not saying what is the best route or how to parent. I got my hands full as it is!

Prep School hockey like all hockey in these parts is watered down but is still a great place to play competitive hockey and develop.

Re: Hockey Academy

Anon
anon
Is it possible that not all of the prep games get reported to MHR?
It. Doesn't. Matter. 30+ is a subset of 20+. Who the **** cares? It's a nuance. One doesn't describe Prep hockey materially differently than the other. It's just a couple of guys needing to feel that they know more than the next guy and need to do some dick swinging to prove it (in their minds). Or maybe they feel threatened by the development of alternate models - like Selects Academy - that are better than Prep.

The NE publics are becoming irrelevant in terms of player development for the next level. The CC is down as well, so much so that they couldn't even dominate the publics in the Super 8. Preps are becoming weaker as more and more 14 and 15 year olds are recruited and promised playing time, whether they are ready or not. As soon as the local studs realize that going to the USHL after two years in a public or prep is the more successful path, the preps could really be hurting. The NTDP Class of 2017/18 is dominated by full season players.

It's evolve, or die.

To me, the Selects Academy model is the future. Because you get both the development that comes with a hockey-first environment but still benefit from a prep school education. And that's what the OP asked about.


OP here, We are going to look at Selects in a few months to see what it all about. I like that they have u15, u16 u18 teams that play full season. My son dosent like that the school body is so small, but the hockey has his attention, My wife doesnt like the education piece, but could still be a fit once on campus.

Also reached out to Excel Hockey Academy in Pittsburgh, and CIHA in Ontario. Cant make a decision if you dont get all the info.
Good luck to all.

Re: Hockey Academy

Anon
anon
Is it possible that not all of the prep games get reported to MHR?
It. Doesn't. Matter. 30+ is a subset of 20+. Who the **** cares? It's a nuance. One doesn't describe Prep hockey materially differently than the other. It's just a couple of guys needing to feel that they know more than the next guy and need to do some dick swinging to prove it (in their minds). Or maybe they feel threatened by the development of alternate models - like Selects Academy - that are better than Prep.

The NE publics are becoming irrelevant in terms of player development for the next level. The CC is down as well, so much so that they couldn't even dominate the publics in the Super 8. Preps are becoming weaker as more and more 14 and 15 year olds are recruited and promised playing time, whether they are ready or not. As soon as the local studs realize that going to the USHL after two years in a public or prep is the more successful path, the preps could really be hurting. The NTDP Class of 2017/18 is dominated by full season players.

It's evolve, or die.

To me, the Selects Academy model is the future. Because you get both the development that comes with a hockey-first environment but still benefit from a prep school education. And that's what the OP asked about.


Agree with you about the Selects model but half the team ( 01's) played Independent or New England Prep. I too am starting to like the full season model but Prep still has a place.

Re: Hockey Academy

anon
Anon
anon
Is it possible that not all of the prep games get reported to MHR?
It. Doesn't. Matter. 30+ is a subset of 20+. Who the **** cares? It's a nuance. One doesn't describe Prep hockey materially differently than the other. It's just a couple of guys needing to feel that they know more than the next guy and need to do some dick swinging to prove it (in their minds). Or maybe they feel threatened by the development of alternate models - like Selects Academy - that are better than Prep.

The NE publics are becoming irrelevant in terms of player development for the next level. The CC is down as well, so much so that they couldn't even dominate the publics in the Super 8. Preps are becoming weaker as more and more 14 and 15 year olds are recruited and promised playing time, whether they are ready or not. As soon as the local studs realize that going to the USHL after two years in a public or prep is the more successful path, the preps could really be hurting. The NTDP Class of 2017/18 is dominated by full season players.

It's evolve, or die.

To me, the Selects Academy model is the future. Because you get both the development that comes with a hockey-first environment but still benefit from a prep school education. And that's what the OP asked about.


Agree with you about the Selects model but half the team ( 01's) played Independent or New England Prep. I too am starting to like the full season model but Prep still has a place.
Totally agree. It was too new to have their U18 kids be home grown. That will change.

And, *gasp* you didn't have to attempt to disparage my kid to make your point. What does it say about a man that would do that?

Just shows you, the kids grow up and become HS and college players. The parents don't.

Re: Hockey Academy

Anon
anon
Anon
anon
Is it possible that not all of the prep games get reported to MHR?
It. Doesn't. Matter. 30+ is a subset of 20+. Who the **** cares? It's a nuance. One doesn't describe Prep hockey materially differently than the other. It's just a couple of guys needing to feel that they know more than the next guy and need to do some dick swinging to prove it (in their minds). Or maybe they feel threatened by the development of alternate models - like Selects Academy - that are better than Prep.

The NE publics are becoming irrelevant in terms of player development for the next level. The CC is down as well, so much so that they couldn't even dominate the publics in the Super 8. Preps are becoming weaker as more and more 14 and 15 year olds are recruited and promised playing time, whether they are ready or not. As soon as the local studs realize that going to the USHL after two years in a public or prep is the more successful path, the preps could really be hurting. The NTDP Class of 2017/18 is dominated by full season players.

It's evolve, or die.

To me, the Selects Academy model is the future. Because you get both the development that comes with a hockey-first environment but still benefit from a prep school education. And that's what the OP asked about.


Agree with you about the Selects model but half the team ( 01's) played Independent or New England Prep. I too am starting to like the full season model but Prep still has a place.
Totally agree. It was too new to have their U18 kids be home grown. That will change.

And, *gasp* you didn't have to attempt to disparage my kid to make your point. What does it say about a man that would do that?

Just shows you, the kids grow up and become HS and college players. The parents don't.

Don't know you or your kid to personally disparage and if I did know you, it would never be on a public forum. Anal, Pandents? Why because you tell half truths and don't like to be challenged?

Re: Hockey Academy

Anon
This was the subject of a recent thread, and the only one people came up with was Phillips Andover.
Andover is open 'year-round'. i know Rivers is multi purpose facility so the ice is not available in the off-season.

Re: Hockey Academy

Anon
Prep schools don't offer a "Hockey environment, structure and development." The season is short, and even the very best of the best are required to play another sport in the fall and spring.

Selects Academy at South Kent School (really strong) and Elite Hockey at Cheshire Academy (above average) are the closest to what you're describing. But, they still entail a prep school curriculum.


Elite Hockey Academy is long gone. Cheshire now has a traditional prep hockey team

Re: Hockey Academy

Anon
Anon
Prep schools don't offer a "Hockey environment, structure and development." The season is short, and even the very best of the best are required to play another sport in the fall and spring.

Selects Academy at South Kent School (really strong) and Elite Hockey at Cheshire Academy (above average) are the closest to what you're describing. But, they still entail a prep school curriculum.


Elite Hockey Academy is long gone. Cheshire now has a traditional prep hockey team
Maybe, but the program is still listed on CA's website and is still a member of ECEL at the U16 and U18 levels for the upcoming season. Doesn't sound too "long gone" to me, but what do I know?

Re: Hockey Academy

anon
Are there any true Hockey Academies in New England? One that has a main focus on hockey and not academic? My son is not a scholar (B student) but loves hockey and has passion for it, do you have to eventually send your kid to prep to get that type of Hockey environment,structure and development?


The journey starts early then one would think. Believe it or not as early as 4th grade. The program that you seek is referred to as a High Preformance Athlete Program. Hollycrest Middle School uses this approach in grades 4 through 8. As long as the athlete continues to excel and share the same passion he / she will continue on to a High Preformance Athlete High School such as Silverthorn to continue this model. At Hollycrest hockey players spend a minimum of 3 hours daily on hockey related activities. T

There have been 52 boys who were enrolled / accepted into the program in the last 5 years and 45 of the 52 players graduated to junior hockey and above:
-10 NHL Draft Picks
-5 Players playing AHL
-21 Drafted to OHL
-9 Players received NCAA scholarships

There is no cost to High Preformance Athletes as the program is funded by TDSB.

Re: Hockey Academy

Anon
anon
Are there any true Hockey Academies in New England? One that has a main focus on hockey and not academic? My son is not a scholar (B student) but loves hockey and has passion for it, do you have to eventually send your kid to prep to get that type of Hockey environment,structure and development?


The journey starts early then one would think. Believe it or not as early as 4th grade. The program that you seek is referred to as a High Preformance Athlete Program. Hollycrest Middle School uses this approach in grades 4 through 8. As long as the athlete continues to excel and share the same passion he / she will continue on to a High Preformance Athlete High School such as Silverthorn to continue this model. At Hollycrest hockey players spend a minimum of 3 hours daily on hockey related activities. T

There have been 52 boys who were enrolled / accepted into the program in the last 5 years and 45 of the 52 players graduated to junior hockey and above:
-10 NHL Draft Picks
-5 Players playing AHL
-21 Drafted to OHL
-9 Players received NCAA scholarships

There is no cost to High Preformance Athletes as the program is funded by TDSB.


Amazing.... program looks fantastic.

Thank you!

Re: Hockey Academy

Anon
Anon
anon
Are there any true Hockey Academies in New England? One that has a main focus on hockey and not academic? My son is not a scholar (B student) but loves hockey and has passion for it, do you have to eventually send your kid to prep to get that type of Hockey environment,structure and development?


The journey starts early then one would think. Believe it or not as early as 4th grade. The program that you seek is referred to as a High Preformance Athlete Program. Hollycrest Middle School uses this approach in grades 4 through 8. As long as the athlete continues to excel and share the same passion he / she will continue on to a High Preformance Athlete High School such as Silverthorn to continue this model. At Hollycrest hockey players spend a minimum of 3 hours daily on hockey related activities. T

There have been 52 boys who were enrolled / accepted into the program in the last 5 years and 45 of the 52 players graduated to junior hockey and above:
-10 NHL Draft Picks
-5 Players playing AHL
-21 Drafted to OHL
-9 Players received NCAA scholarships

There is no cost to High Preformance Athletes as the program is funded by TDSB.


Amazing.... program looks fantastic.

Thank you!

Yup, all you need to d is find a job in ON, move, pay more in taxes and give up reasonable health care.

Re: Hockey Academy

You lost your credibility with "...and give up reasonable health care."

Canada's healthcare system makes our insurance company driven crapshow look like a second world country stumbling around trying to provide healthcare for a third of it's people. Spend some time in Canada and turn off Fox News and you will see how failed we are at healthcare.

Re: Hockey Academy

anon
You lost your credibility with "...and give up reasonable health care."

Canada's healthcare system makes our insurance company driven crapshow look like a second world country stumbling around trying to provide healthcare for a third of it's people. Spend some time in Canada and turn off Fox News and you will see how failed we are at healthcare.
Umm, I'm responsible for the healthcare coverages for my company's 100,000 employees around the world, including Canada. I THINK that gives me just a little credibility. But, this is neither a healthcare forum nor a political forum so I'll stop there.

Re: Hockey Academy

Anon
anon
You lost your credibility with "...and give up reasonable health care."

Canada's healthcare system makes our insurance company driven crapshow look like a second world country stumbling around trying to provide healthcare for a third of it's people. Spend some time in Canada and turn off Fox News and you will see how failed we are at healthcare.
Umm, I'm responsible for the healthcare coverages for my company's 100,000 employees around the world, including Canada. I THINK that gives me just a little credibility. But, this is neither a healthcare forum nor a political forum so I'll stop there.


Just goes to show how out of touch you are lemming! Bet you voted for Trump too?

Re: Hockey Academy

Anon
Anon
Anon
anon
Are there any true Hockey Academies in New England? One that has a main focus on hockey and not academic? My son is not a scholar (B student) but loves hockey and has passion for it, do you have to eventually send your kid to prep to get that type of Hockey environment,structure and development?


The journey starts early then one would think. Believe it or not as early as 4th grade. The program that you seek is referred to as a High Preformance Athlete Program. Hollycrest Middle School uses this approach in grades 4 through 8. As long as the athlete continues to excel and share the same passion he / she will continue on to a High Preformance Athlete High School such as Silverthorn to continue this model. At Hollycrest hockey players spend a minimum of 3 hours daily on hockey related activities. T

There have been 52 boys who were enrolled / accepted into the program in the last 5 years and 45 of the 52 players graduated to junior hockey and above:
-10 NHL Draft Picks
-5 Players playing AHL
-21 Drafted to OHL
-9 Players received NCAA scholarships

There is no cost to High Preformance Athletes as the program is funded by TDSB.


Amazing.... program looks fantastic.

Thank you!

Yup, all you need to d is find a job in ON, move, pay more in taxes and give up reasonable health care.


The program will not turn any non residents away who deserve a spot. It's about developing the right candidates.

Re: Hockey Academy

Anon
Anon
Anon
Anon
anon
Are there any true Hockey Academies in New England? One that has a main focus on hockey and not academic? My son is not a scholar (B student) but loves hockey and has passion for it, do you have to eventually send your kid to prep to get that type of Hockey environment,structure and development?


The journey starts early then one would think. Believe it or not as early as 4th grade. The program that you seek is referred to as a High Preformance Athlete Program. Hollycrest Middle School uses this approach in grades 4 through 8. As long as the athlete continues to excel and share the same passion he / she will continue on to a High Preformance Athlete High School such as Silverthorn to continue this model. At Hollycrest hockey players spend a minimum of 3 hours daily on hockey related activities. T

There have been 52 boys who were enrolled / accepted into the program in the last 5 years and 45 of the 52 players graduated to junior hockey and above:
-10 NHL Draft Picks
-5 Players playing AHL
-21 Drafted to OHL
-9 Players received NCAA scholarships

There is no cost to High Preformance Athletes as the program is funded by TDSB.


Amazing.... program looks fantastic.

Thank you!

Yup, all you need to d is find a job in ON, move, pay more in taxes and give up reasonable health care.


The program will not turn any non residents away who deserve a spot. It's about developing the right candidates.
Yeah, Umm, except that would mean sending your 9 year old to live away from home.

And, I'm sorry, but I sincerely doubt the City of Toronto is bending over backwards to spend taxpayer dollars to develop U.S. Hockey players. Even socialism had practical limits.

Try reading what you write before hitting "Post."

Re: Hockey Academy

Anon
anon
Are there any true Hockey Academies in New England? One that has a main focus on hockey and not academic? My son is not a scholar (B student) but loves hockey and has passion for it, do you have to eventually send your kid to prep to get that type of Hockey environment,structure and development?


The journey starts early then one would think. Believe it or not as early as 4th grade. The program that you seek is referred to as a High Preformance Athlete Program. Hollycrest Middle School uses this approach in grades 4 through 8. As long as the athlete continues to excel and share the same passion he / she will continue on to a High Preformance Athlete High School such as Silverthorn to continue this model. At Hollycrest hockey players spend a minimum of 3 hours daily on hockey related activities. T

There have been 52 boys who were enrolled / accepted into the program in the last 5 years and 45 of the 52 players graduated to junior hockey and above:
-10 NHL Draft Picks
-5 Players playing AHL
-21 Drafted to OHL
-9 Players received NCAA scholarships

There is no cost to High Preformance Athletes as the program is funded by TDSB.


Its the FedElite model. I like it.

Impressive statistics, the best being grouped and trained with the best.

Re: Hockey Academy

Ham Bone
Anon
anon
Are there any true Hockey Academies in New England? One that has a main focus on hockey and not academic? My son is not a scholar (B student) but loves hockey and has passion for it, do you have to eventually send your kid to prep to get that type of Hockey environment,structure and development?


The journey starts early then one would think. Believe it or not as early as 4th grade. The program that you seek is referred to as a High Preformance Athlete Program. Hollycrest Middle School uses this approach in grades 4 through 8. As long as the athlete continues to excel and share the same passion he / she will continue on to a High Preformance Athlete High School such as Silverthorn to continue this model. At Hollycrest hockey players spend a minimum of 3 hours daily on hockey related activities. T

There have been 52 boys who were enrolled / accepted into the program in the last 5 years and 45 of the 52 players graduated to junior hockey and above:
-10 NHL Draft Picks
-5 Players playing AHL
-21 Drafted to OHL
-9 Players received NCAA scholarships

There is no cost to High Preformance Athletes as the program is funded by TDSB.


Its the FedElite model. I like it.

Impressive statistics, the best being grouped and trained with the best.


Sounds to me like training your kid to be a zamboni driver. Of those 52, how many will make enough of an impact that they will never have to work again after hockey. My guess is zero. One should never sacrifice the education for hockey, I don't care how good a prospect you are.

Re: Hockey Academy

Since every prep school kid becomes set for life at an early age, I agree!

Re: Hockey Academy

anon
Ham Bone
Anon
anon
Are there any true Hockey Academies in New England? One that has a main focus on hockey and not academic? My son is not a scholar (B student) but loves hockey and has passion for it, do you have to eventually send your kid to prep to get that type of Hockey environment,structure and development?


The journey starts early then one would think. Believe it or not as early as 4th grade. The program that you seek is referred to as a High Preformance Athlete Program. Hollycrest Middle School uses this approach in grades 4 through 8. As long as the athlete continues to excel and share the same passion he / she will continue on to a High Preformance Athlete High School such as Silverthorn to continue this model. At Hollycrest hockey players spend a minimum of 3 hours daily on hockey related activities. T

There have been 52 boys who were enrolled / accepted into the program in the last 5 years and 45 of the 52 players graduated to junior hockey and above:
-10 NHL Draft Picks
-5 Players playing AHL
-21 Drafted to OHL
-9 Players received NCAA scholarships

There is no cost to High Preformance Athletes as the program is funded by TDSB.


Its the FedElite model. I like it.

Impressive statistics, the best being grouped and trained with the best.


Sounds to me like training your kid to be a zamboni driver. Of those 52, how many will make enough of an impact that they will never have to work again after hockey. My guess is zero. One should never sacrifice the education for hockey, I don't care how good a prospect you are.


No one is sacrificing an education or proposing to do so. The curriculum / program is designed Board of Education.