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Re: 3 days

Anon
From what I’m hearing you could take the top kids from Cardigan, Eaglebrook, and Hillside who did not get the offers they were looking for and make a very strong U16 FS team.
Schools received record numbers of applicants and were very selective with their $$$$$.
Unfortunately there are very few elite kids playing at those schools these days. Too many better choices outside of Jr Prep with better paths to Prep school. Any kid that has an opportunity to go to a Jr prep is very fortunate. Great path, just not quite what it used to be.

Re: 3 days

Anon
Our top player opting to stay FS vs going prep. A pattern that will continue due to Hs hockey dying....
Lovell kid.

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Prep isn't for every kid...and all prep hockey is NOT better than all FS and yes - some catholic/public schools...

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Be a good kid they said, get the grades they said, work hard they said, sacrifice they said...oh you need aid, nevermind they said. FS all the way!

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Truth
Be a good kid they said, get the grades they said, work hard they said, sacrifice they said...oh you need aid, nevermind they said. FS all the way!
Prep schools better realize soon that "Hockey Wise" FS is going to be the way to go. In many cases the Prep school experience and education is better. However, for the 2nd tier kid, middle class kid, less connected family( by that I mean less educated in the hockey world & process) FS may be the better option.

The better FS teams are having much success against Preps. I have watched some of the FS games. Top to bottom they are as good as most Prep schools ( outside of the Elite 8). What they typically lack ( especially U18) is the real studs as most of those kids are playing Jr's if not Prep.


In any case, keep it healthy. Work hard, Be dedicated and recognize how fortunate you are to have this experience. Enjoy the ride!!

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If hockey is your priority then FS or hockey academy type schools are the way to go. If education is your priority then independent/prep is the way to go, but only if you don't have a good local public HS. Prep schools were created and still exist to educate the children of the 1%. 65-70% of the kids at these schools are full pay. The single most valuable attribute that an applicant can have is the ability to pay full tuition. The next most valuable attribute is a relationship with the school, such as being a legacy applicant or child of faculty. After that comes the recruited talent, not all of whom will receive great FA offers or even acceptance. The others are in a lottery with very poor odds, and if they knew their chances beforehand they probably wouldn't bother with all the effort required to apply. It's a pity that public HS hockey is wrecked, but FS is clearly the way things are going. If your child is on the waitlist to nowhere and your local public HS is terrible then look into charter schools and Catholics, or consider moving to a town with better schools.

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:::::::::::: and let me guess, the kid got “ Waitlisted”. Seems like 8 out of 10 did.

Re: 3 days

Anon
:::::::::::: and let me guess, the kid got “ Waitlisted”. Seems like 8 out of 10 did.
They just saved me 30k per year. I’m not complaining, but yes, tons of kids waitlisted this year.

Re: 3 days

Anon
Anon
:::::::::::: and let me guess, the kid got “ Waitlisted”. Seems like 8 out of 10 did.
They just saved me 30k per year. I’m not complaining, but yes, tons of kids waitlisted this year.
My kid got waitlisted. For all you and your benders, that’s code for you didn’t get in.

Re: 3 days

anon
Anon
Anon
:::::::::::: and let me guess, the kid got “ Waitlisted”. Seems like 8 out of 10 did.
They just saved me 30k per year. I’m not complaining, but yes, tons of kids waitlisted this year.
My kid got waitlisted. For all you and your benders, that’s code for you didn’t get in.
Well, sort of. There is the “we have placed you on the waitlist” and then there’s the “ you have been accepted for fall of 2018 and placed on FA waitlist”.
Either way, your not in.

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Can the coach help with the waiting list? He told my my kid would be on the 2nd or 3rd line next year.

Re: 3 days

Anon
Can the coach help with the waiting list? He told my my kid would be on the 2nd or 3rd line next year.

Wow. Did you really just ask that?

Did you not do any homework going into the process?

Re: 3 days

Anon
Anon
Can the coach help with the waiting list? He told my my kid would be on the 2nd or 3rd line next year.

Wow. Did you really just ask that?

Did you not do any homework going into the process?
I'm really hopeful this guy was joking, but just in case, NO, the coach cant help. Do a year of public and try again next year.

Re: 3 days

anon
Anon
Anon
Can the coach help with the waiting list? He told my my kid would be on the 2nd or 3rd line next year.

Wow. Did you really just ask that?

Did you not do any homework going into the process?
I'm really hopeful this guy was joking, but just in case, NO, the coach cant help. Do a year of public and try again next year.
Well, not exactly true. The coach (actually the AD) has a lot of pull with Admissions going into the process. But, he has a limited number of slots across all sports.

The waitlist thing is that he is waiting to see what other players accepted before knowing if he has a spot for your kid. The schools all go after the same players, and of course the players in high demand can only choose one. Just like the coach lies to families, the elite players do, too, so they can play one school off against another.

Re: 3 days

Anon
Anon
Can the coach help with the waiting list? He told my my kid would be on the 2nd or 3rd line next year.

Wow. Did you really just ask that?

Did you not do any homework going into the process?
Note to self. Original poster here. I didn’t post this dumb question about coach helping off waitlist. I’m good w my kid not getting in.

Re: 3 days

anon
Anon
Anon
Can the coach help with the waiting list? He told my my kid would be on the 2nd or 3rd line next year.

Wow. Did you really just ask that?

Did you not do any homework going into the process?
Note to self. Original poster here. I didn’t post this dumb question about coach helping off waitlist. I’m good w my kid not getting in.
A) Don't recall anyone asking you.

B) You aren't the OP, unless you are in the habit of changing your screen name.

Re: 3 days

Anon
anon
Anon
Anon
Can the coach help with the waiting list? He told my my kid would be on the 2nd or 3rd line next year.

Wow. Did you really just ask that?

Did you not do any homework going into the process?
Note to self. Original poster here. I didn’t post this dumb question about coach helping off waitlist. I’m good w my kid not getting in.
A) Don't recall anyone asking you.

B) You aren't the OP, unless you are in the habit of changing your screen name.
Wrong again idiot. Original poster of waitlist is code for my bender get in. I didn’t start this dumb thread. And no one asked you for your thoughts either.

Re: 3 days

anon
Anon
anon
Anon
Anon
Can the coach help with the waiting list? He told my my kid would be on the 2nd or 3rd line next year.

Wow. Did you really just ask that?

Did you not do any homework going into the process?
Note to self. Original poster here. I didn’t post this dumb question about coach helping off waitlist. I’m good w my kid not getting in.
A) Don\'t recall anyone asking you.

B) You aren\'t the OP, unless you are in the habit of changing your screen name.
Wrong again idiot. Original poster of waitlist is code for my bender get in. I didn’t start this dumb thread. And no one asked you for your thoughts either.
If you didn't start "this dumb thread" then you aren't the OP. Just another "dumb" contributor with little to add. Nobody cares about your kid other than you, Copernicus.

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My son was waitlisted at 2 schools and accepted at 2 schools but the money offered still isn't close to helping.

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You mean we can't believe the assistant to the assistant coach with the official Bauer wind suit when he tells me that he likes my kid and he will have no problem getting in? BE CAREFUL WHAT YOU BELIEVE unless the head of admissions makes you these promises.

Re: 3 days

Anon
You mean we can't believe the assistant to the assistant coach with the official Bauer wind suit when he tells me that he likes my kid and he will have no problem getting in? BE CAREFUL WHAT YOU BELIEVE unless the head of admissions makes you these promises.
The head of admissions can't commit spots on Varsity teams.

Re: 3 days

Anon
You mean we can't believe the assistant to the assistant coach with the official Bauer wind suit when he tells me that he likes my kid and he will have no problem getting in? BE CAREFUL WHAT YOU BELIEVE unless the head of admissions makes you these promises.
Fantastic description! We’ve all seen that guy, he’s at every showcase event talking to everyone. Can’t believe such a fine school let’s themselves be represented by that clown. Best part is since he’s been involved the school’s hockey program has gone down the tubes, no D1 commits next season.

Re: 3 days

anon
My son was waitlisted at 2 schools and accepted at 2 schools but the money offered still isn't close to helping.
Oh, you mean they aren't granting $40K of FA annually to every "elite" 13 year old out there, like so many here would lead you to believe?

Go back and read the discussions a few months ago around what being "recruited" means. Can't say people didn't try to tell you (not "you" specifically).

This really should be on the Kiddie Board, they are the ones that are going to learn the same lesson next year.

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My oldest entered prep school 10 years ago. At that time I was reading on how preps better wake up or the EJHL was going to take all of the hockey players. Back then full year tuition was in the low $30's for day schools, upper $30's for boarding. After reading this thread the only thing that has really changed in 10 years is that the tuition has gone way up.

Re: 3 days

anon
My oldest entered prep school 10 years ago. At that time I was reading on how preps better wake up or the EJHL was going to take all of the hockey players. Back then full year tuition was in the low $30's for day schools, upper $30's for boarding. After reading this thread the only thing that has really changed in 10 years is that the tuition has gone way up.
To the tune of 64K per year!

Re: 3 days

Anon
anon
My son was waitlisted at 2 schools and accepted at 2 schools but the money offered still isn't close to helping.
Oh, you mean they aren't granting $40K of FA annually to every "elite" 13 year old out there, like so many here would lead you to believe?

Go back and read the discussions a few months ago around what being "recruited" means. Can't say people didn't try to tell you (not "you" specifically).

This really should be on the Kiddie Board, they are the ones that are going to learn the same lesson next year.
Actually, that is exactly what they offered and it still isn't enough.

Re: 3 days

anon
Anon
anon
My son was waitlisted at 2 schools and accepted at 2 schools but the money offered still isn\'t close to helping.
Oh, you mean they aren\'t granting \$40K of FA annually to every \"elite\" 13 year old out there, like so many here would lead you to believe?

Go back and read the discussions a few months ago around what being \"recruited\" means. Can\'t say people didn\'t try to tell you (not \"you\" specifically).

This really should be on the Kiddie Board, they are the ones that are going to learn the same lesson next year.
Actually, that is exactly what they offered and it still isn't enough.
Catholic schools offer need-based FA and the gap would be smaller to bridge

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Prep School Hockey = High Level, Good Pace
Prep School Hockey = Good Exposure
Prep School Hockey = Resume (i.e. Brick, D1 commit already)
Prep School Hockey = PG/Repeat
Prep School Hockey = Very Little Hockey development
Prep School = Good educational development and college "Prep"

Re: 3 days

Anon
Prep School Hockey = High Level, Good Pace
Prep School Hockey = Good Exposure
Prep School Hockey = Resume (i.e. Brick, D1 commit already)
Prep School Hockey = PG/Repeat
Prep School Hockey = Very Little Hockey development
Prep School = Good educational development and college "Prep"
Prep School Hockey = Not reasonable for 95% of middle class parents
Prep School Hockey = See above
Don't tell me its only for studs either, that is not the case.

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I've been around hockey parents, football, girls/boys lax, girls/boys basketball. And they all talk about getting taken care of. And so the question is, if every kid in every sport is being taken care of, who pays tuition? Bottom line is most schools deal on need and need alone. ISL schools police each other so give a couple grand leeway either way, everyone is paying based upon need. Anyone saying they are getting a free ride is either needy enought to warrant a free ride or lying their ass off.

That being said, if your kid can do more than play hockey. If he's really smart, plays in instrument, drama etc then he might get more because he has earned and is worth more to the school. Schools want kids, not because they can win games, but because of where they will matriculate. It's the same story in everything in life. If ou have leverage, then you can get more because you will be in demand. If your kid is a good hockey player and the hockey coach says he really want's him, don't think anyone else in the shool with input on admissions will give a **** because every other coach for every other sport asking for a break for the kid they want to get in.

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I believe the NEPSHL independents, Exeter for example, will go well beyond need to get a stud. But of course with a school like that the kid better be really bright in the class room. They ain't letting in any dummies or "marginal" kids. And also, to get great money you better be a varsity level kid in another sport.

Re: 3 days

anon
I believe the NEPSHL independents, Exeter for example, will go well beyond need to get a stud. But of course with a school like that the kid better be really bright in the class room. They ain't letting in any dummies or "marginal" kids. And also, to get great money you better be a varsity level kid in another sport.
It's NEPSAC, yes, only ISL schools are bound by need, and no, you don't have to be an academic stud or play another sport any more.

Welcome to the 21st Century.

Re: 3 days

anon
I believe the NEPSHL independents, Exeter for example, will go well beyond need to get a stud. But of course with a school like that the kid better be really bright in the class room. They ain't letting in any dummies or "marginal" kids. And also, to get great money you better be a varsity level kid in another sport.
Agreed, Exeter can be very generous with aid, and why not when you have an endowment of greater than $1 Billion dollars, and yes, that is with a "B". But you have to swing it in the classroom, Exeter doesn't let anyone in that is "marginal" academically. It's amazing that their hockey team is good year after year with all the turnover they have from each year.

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What a week. I have received at least 20 calls from parents of 03 up to 00 where kids were accepted but no FA available and put on a waitlist. I have been doing this for a long time and don't remember a year like this.
The 03 group at least can play a year or 2 of U16 or go to a Catholic to prepare, but the older kids are at a loss, and they are good solid players.

Re: 3 days

anon
What a week. I have received at least 20 calls from parents of 03 up to 00 where kids were accepted but no FA available and put on a waitlist. I have been doing this for a long time and don't remember a year like this.
The 03 group at least can play a year or 2 of U16 or go to a Catholic to prepare, but the older kids are at a loss, and they are good solid players.
Bodes well for High School and FS hockey though. God I wish we live in MN!!

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Tough week for a lot of dreamers.

1. Sorry your oldest kid got cut from prep school
2. Sorry your bank account got cut from financial aid
3. Sorry your youngest will get cut from their club team




Re: 3 days

anon
Tough week for a lot of dreamers.

1. Sorry your oldest kid got cut from prep school
2. Sorry your bank account got cut from financial aid
3. Sorry your youngest will get cut from their club team




At least these families tried unlike you who just drinks and doesn't pay bills.