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I’m asking a legit question because I don’t know. What is Elite 8 Prep contender hockey? Is that a league of some kind?
Why are 8th graders on top lines/pairs? Obviously it must not be all ages involved?
Why are 8th graders on top lines/pairs? Obviously it must not be all ages involved?
Why are 8th graders on top lines/pairs? Obviously it must not be all ages involved?
After the eight teams are selected for the open or "Elite 8" bracket (technically the Stuart/Corkery Bracket) the next best teams are selected based on size and entered into the - yup, you guessed it - large school and small school brackets based on enrollment.
There's no real difference between the large school and small school champion. Both are probably regarded as about the 5th or 6th best teams in New England, since teams 5-8 in the Elite 8 bracket lasted just one game (and lost) while it takes 3 wins to win the consolation brackets.
All of this is under NEPSAC - New England Preparatory School Athletic Council, to which all New England preps belong.
So Dads, don't take it so hard if the little guy is stuck on JV. Especially if he's a defensemen. I have yet to see a freshmen or sophomore defensemen at D-1 high school or prep who should be on the ice other than in mop-up time. It's like asking Torey Krug to play defense. Nice thought, good effort, overpowered and outsized. So relax dads, no need to run to a full season team just yet.
I've even seen 8th graders play top line/top pair. Not often, but it does happen.
Meaning, you are talking out of your ass, sir.
for good teams - its really the parents: the players usually figure it out the first practice. the parents at the first scrimmage are shocked how ordinary their player is v the team. the good parents realize this will elevate their child's play (in practice) making them better, others point fingers 'what wrong with you', 'the coaches are using you wrong', 'coaches suck', 'team sucks'.
what's really odd is this board is filled with 'my kid plays up' then when they are forced (HS) they become annoyed.
So Dads, don't take it so hard if the little guy is stuck on JV. Especially if he's a defensemen. I have yet to see a freshmen or sophomore defensemen at D-1 high school or prep who should be on the ice other than in mop-up time. It's like asking Torey Krug to play defense. Nice thought, good effort, overpowered and outsized. So relax dads, no need to run to a full season team just yet.
I've even seen 8th graders play top line/top pair. Not often, but it does happen.
Meaning, you are talking out of your ass, sir.
for good teams - its really the parents: the players usually figure it out the first practice. the parents at the first scrimmage are shocked how ordinary their player is v the team. the good parents realize this will elevate their child's play (in practice) making them better, others point fingers 'what wrong with you', 'the coaches are using you wrong', 'coaches suck', 'team sucks'.
what's really odd is this board is filled with 'my kid plays up' then when they are forced (HS) they become annoyed.
Entirely not true. BCH, The reigning Super 8 Champion, has had multiple Freshman Defenseman recently who were top pairing defenseman.
So Dads, don\'t take it so hard if the little guy is stuck on JV. Especially if he\'s a defensemen. I have yet to see a freshmen or sophomore defensemen at D-1 high school or prep who should be on the ice other than in mop-up time. It\'s like asking Torey Krug to play defense. Nice thought, good effort, overpowered and outsized. So relax dads, no need to run to a full season team just yet.
I\'ve even seen 8th graders play top line/top pair. Not often, but it does happen.
Meaning, you are talking out of your ass, sir.
for good teams - its really the parents: the players usually figure it out the first practice. the parents at the first scrimmage are shocked how ordinary their player is v the team. the good parents realize this will elevate their child\'s play (in practice) making them better, others point fingers \'what wrong with you\', \'the coaches are using you wrong\', \'coaches suck\', \'team sucks\'.
what\'s really odd is this board is filled with \'my kid plays up\' then when they are forced (HS) they become annoyed.
Boys hockey? Significant contributions from underclassmen every year.
Are you talking about true freshman contributing and getting regular shifts as a defense man or the kids who should be a jr but repeated so they can play varsity as "freshman" . It is rare that a true freshman can play and contribute at 14 against 17/18/19 year olds. Please tell me who the next Noah Hanifin is.
High School is such an eye-opener and dose of reality; more so for the parents than the kids...
Happens every year.
A few son’s of long time daddy coaches not showing up on varsity rosters. Finally placed in a skill appropriate level.
Swim team:laughing: :laughing: Now go get your effin shine box:laughing:
Lots of dreams crushed at SJP freshman tryouts...
Thayer had a very good 2023 defenseman (8th grader if the sheet is correct) playing big minutes. Small but one of the better players on the ice.
Shows lack of depth. That's all.
I was talking about freshman trying out and not making the freshman team...
Thanks Dad!
Sorry your freshmen got cut. Grow some hair on those peaches and try again next year!
No hype here, just pointing out freshmen are playing high level prep & catholic MA hockey.
Not true, but keep making those $50k tuition payments.
Testy testy professor 🤓
4-5 SJP freshmen went to V, opening up slots on F team. The Freshmen boys who didn’t make it should train harder and try again next year. They are known to take another look soph year and take kids who improved.
I think only freshman forwards made sjp varsity.
Could be right that it was only forwards but there seemed to be a lot of frosh pulled up this year. Usually it’s 1-2, not 4-5. They took no new sophomores and I think only 2-3 off last year’s JV team. Anyway, whoever the kids are who did not make it as a freshman, just train hard over the next year and try out again (or you could stop playing I guess but that’s no fun!)
The freshmen that made it ALL PLAYED for coach on Cyclones. TOTALLY WRONG!!!!!!!! Somebody say something. Ancient AD at the Prep won't care.
Easier to hide a kid on the third forth line as a wing than a defensemen.
I hope you’re not under the illusion that SJP hockey (especially Freshman & Varsity) is merit-based. (And no, my kid didn’t get cut). Dir Player development for Wings is SJP asst coach so Wings kids get taken as freshman (along w/SJP middle school kids). Same w/Cyclones coach. And a ton of people keep kids back so there may actually be an ‘01 as a freshman. Crazy, but every year there’s a freshman W/ a driver’s license and full beard. Meanwhile there’s a sophomore who was clearly slated to go V but got sent back to JV to accommodate freshman (again, NOT my kid).
There were 6 freshmen at SJP that made varsity. 3 forwards, 2 defenseman and 1 goalie. 5 of those kids played for the Cyclones. The son of assistant coach of the Cyclones is the goalie and he is an "04. SJP lost a bunch of kids so it looks like they went young to fill those spots.
Stop it. Coach of the Cyclones is HC of New Hampton School. Others just helped out.
Looking at my hockey rankings for what it's worth. Cyclones were 3rd in New England (sans Mass) behind MFR and SPA. If they were in MA, they'd be 5th behind SSK, RR, ECW and BA. They beat RR 2 out of 3 and lost to both SPA and BA. Saw them win the prep cup with three shutouts games in the playoffs. Some kids can play...looks like SJP got a few of them.
Head Coach of New Hampton used to be involved with Avalanche but his kids are out of youth hockey now and so is he.
You are incorrect.
Assistant Cyclones Coach is Assistant SJP coach (goalie and Brother in law to another Assistant coach) took his goalie son and his friends, a couple of sophomores equal or better (and no my kid did not get cut).
Varsity players are angry and Frosh coach is angry. So yes it matters, how did it work out for them playing Hingham today-laughable. Two of the frosh forwards have stone feet....
5 freshman players from one team, guess players should not go to SJP with any thought of a fair tryout.
Look at the bright side...
You're spending $25K for a great education at SJP. Your kids are just not going to play hockey there. Sorry, but friends and family is alive and well at the high school level too!