My son is 16, very good at hockey, has to play through his high school years NOT on a high school team because it is isn't good enough hockey, so he has to play Club, but NOT USPHL because its isn't good enough hockey, then play 2 years of Jr Hockey somewhere in North America the USHL or NAHL all in order to play D1 or D3 Hockey as a 21 year old? Is that what we are being sold?
Who thinks this is OK? Please tell me I'm wrong and this isn't the case.
Very Accurate..you only missed the years of private lessons and "showcases"
He doesn't HAVE to do any of that. But, if he WANTS to play college hockey, that's most likely what he's going to NEED to do. It's up to the NCAA and the coaches to decide who they want on their teams. And they want 20 and 21 year old freshmen, because the rules allow it.
If your kid doesn't WANT to, have him find another sport.
Does Lacrosse, Soccer, Baseball, Football, Swimming, etc...demand this also, or is it just hockey?
Not everyone is a 20 or 21 year-old freshman, if he is any good, then your talking about 18 or 19. But yes, it's pretty ridiculous that most kids have to "age out" to play college hockey, especially for D3
It’s an absolute joke. But so isn’t all youth, including HS, sports now. That being said anyone see the verbal commit, PC slipped through on Tuesday, before the rules change? I read that he’s 5’2”, 110 lb 2005. This seriously isn’t to bash him but at that size to be on anyone’s radar, he must really good. Just wondering if anyone’s seen him in any tournaments. He from LI
Why must a NHL prospect have to go to college to play hockey? So, if I want my kid in college, then he has to play hockey. Or is it, if I want my kid to play NHL, then he has to go to college? So confusing.
I’m sorry. I put my kid in hockey to play a sport and not for an education.
Welcome to the age of entitlement.
you can play in the northeast 10 without playing juniors
There is plenty of hockey for those who want to arrive on campus when they choose and have a spot waiting for them. It's called ACHA club hockey.
You can play in any conference without playing in juniors, but like most conferences the majority of players playing in the Northeast 10 played juniors.
If the consensus is that you have to play Jr hockey and USHL is the holy grail to get into NCAA why do people pay for these Tier 3 leagues if they all lead to nowhere?
I look at it another way. It is a very different sport. Not a lot of true freshman play or have success in NCAA D1 football. Most redshirt, then backup then maybe start as a sophomore or a junior at best. Majority barely play.
There are 2,000,000 (approx) registered U20 hockey players in the world competing for:
say 30 kids per team that means a total of 1,800 spots
A 4 year cycle of Freshman, Sophomore, Junior, Senior so 450 spots per year
If you take the 2,000,000 kids playing hockey and say break it over a 15 year age span (5-20) that gives you 133,333 kids at a given birth year playing Hockey.
So you have 133,333 kids competing for the 450 spots. But you also have to break it down to 18, 19, 20 year olds so that is about 399,999 kids competing for 450 spots.
Where as in football you have 5,000,000 kids competing for:
130 Division 1 teams (more than double).
Rosters are an average of 105 kids means 13,650 kids playing D1 Football
A 4 year cycle of Freshman, etc, etc means 3,412 spots open per year
So if you take the same math for kids playing football and break it over a 13 year age span (5-18) that gives you 384,615 kids at a given birth year playing football.
So you have 384,614 kids competing for 3,412 spots.
I know most of you stopped following this but even if you only count the 1 year for hockey players say 18 so 133,333 kids competing for 450 spots that's a percentage of .33%.
With football you have 384,614 kids competing for 3,412 spots making it a percentage of .88%.
Almost triple the odds of playing D1 college football than D1 College hockey at a freshman age.
The point of all of this is that the amount of spots open per kid competing for them dictates that allowance of further development for hockey players. It's just simple math.
Freshman on D1 rosters for the upcoming season if the historic numbers hold true:
In addition if you actually look at some football rosters the AVERAGE AGE of a player on Alabama is 23, Arizona Sate: 24.8, Utah State 24.7.
Hockey is not all that different. All the hysteria of 21 year old freshmen never gets back to the fact that the average age is still basically one year after HS graduation which is similar to other sports.
Also your point on freshmen not playing is nonsense. Most do play. You can't compete if freshmen can't play, espeically now with so many juniors leaving early for professional. The ones who don't play are usually so-jr-sr that have peaked/don't progress and just don't contribute enough.
Who said Freshman don't play?
Uh, you did.
I actually said a lot of Freshman football players don't play as true freshman didn't say anything about hockey freshman
"...but know why Club Hockey has exploded over the last 5-10 years."
Hmmm, let's see The kid gets to pick the university first and hockey second; the sport is offered in hundreds of schools coast-to-coast - you can play at a southern school and get out of this god forsaken weather; the kid can slide right onto a team after his senior high school season at 18-19; practice schedule which is a couple days a week instead of 5-6; academics can come first, you can miss practice; you play in the same barn as the varsity kids; at least compared to many D-3 programs the club teams might have more fans (compare schools like Georgia or Alabama Club team attendance to any D-3 program in the country)' yeah Club hockey isn't great but go watch a D-3 game and you tell me. . . yeah I'd say I can see how this is going.
No I run a local junior team and we love to declare our kids make hundreds of college teams and this has to include club teams. . . which are elite.