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BBN, Rivers or Austin Prep?

Does anyone have any input on the above schools from an academic and hockey standpoint? If you had to pick one of the above, which would you pick and why? Any others in the general area you’d add to the mix?

Re: BBN, Rivers or Austin Prep?

My 2 cents....Rivers for hockey and its not close - they arguably have the best coach in prep hockey. BBN is a good academic/football school but awful location and hockey wise. Austin prep shouldnt be in the same conversation as the two other schools.

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anon
My 2 cents....Rivers for hockey and its not close - they arguably have the best coach in prep hockey. BBN is a good academic/football school but awful location and hockey wise. Austin prep shouldnt be in the same conversation as the two other schools.
Agree. Keep in mind, though, pretty sure Rivers coach still has a son playing there, will he still make the drive from marblehead after he graduates?

Also, Rivers is 100% Day, not sure of your geography from the three schools you asked about.

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Rivers Coach lives in Watertown during the school year

Re: BBN, Rivers or Austin Prep?

Academic
BB&N,Rivers,Austin
Hockey
Rivers.......BB&N,Austin. Schedule is more competitive at BB&N

If you're not opposed to all boys school.
BC High has a nice balance of Hockey and academics. It is also tricky to get in and out of.

Good luck

Re: BBN, Rivers or Austin Prep?

Easy answer- Its BBN if Academics are your top priority or Rivers if its a hockey decision. Austin Prep should not be in the same conversation as the other two.

Re: BBN, Rivers or Austin Prep?

if cost is a consideration AP is less than half of the others...

Re: BBN, Rivers or Austin Prep?

Between these rivers wins hands down. As mentioned arguably best coach in prep, great record of placement of players at D1 and D3 college level. Boys hockey is not a priority sport at BBN, in addition to uncertainty at head coaching position last season they had many freshman and 8th graders playing varsity. The result was a disaster any many of the players transferred to other preps. But BBN still is an ISL school so the schedule is strong and the facilities are great. From an academic standpoint BBN is ahead of Rivers but the gap is pretty close. AP can not compete with either school academically or in sports.

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Anon
Between these rivers wins hands down. As mentioned arguably best coach in prep, great record of placement of players at D1 and D3 college level. Boys hockey is not a priority sport at BBN, in addition to uncertainty at head coaching position last season they had many freshman and 8th graders playing varsity. The result was a disaster any many of the players transferred to other preps. But BBN still is an ISL school so the schedule is strong and the facilities are great. From an academic standpoint BBN is ahead of Rivers but the gap is pretty close. AP can not compete with either school academically or in sports.
AP can't compete academically? Hmmm, not so sure about that. You may not see the matriculation you see at the other two, but I'm not certain that's the academic program or family finances...

The hockey program may not be as strong as ISL, but it's not a bad option either.

Re: BBN, Rivers or Austin Prep?

Anon
Between these rivers wins hands down. As mentioned arguably best coach in prep, great record of placement of players at D1 and D3 college level. Boys hockey is not a priority sport at BBN, in addition to uncertainty at head coaching position last season they had many freshman and 8th graders playing varsity. The result was a disaster any many of the players transferred to other preps. But BBN still is an ISL school so the schedule is strong and the facilities are great. From an academic standpoint BBN is ahead of Rivers but the gap is pretty close. AP can not compete with either school academically or in sports.
Saying Rivers is close to BB&N academically is like saying Lawrence Academy is close to Groton School.

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Me thinks you should check some of the current prep school rankings. Not a ton of difference between number 11 and 16.

https://www.niche.com/k12/search/best-private-high-schools/s/massachusetts/

But you’re right Groton-Lawrence,6-33, is a much bigger gap.

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Anon
Me thinks you should check some of the current prep school rankings. Not a ton of difference between number 11 and 16.

https://www.niche.com/k12/search/best-private-high-schools/s/massachusetts/
Haha, if you think these rankings are even CLOSE to reality, you don't know anything about Prep schools. Nobles #2? Complete joke. Roxbury Latin down at #12? Bigger joke. Concord Academy #9? Please.

BB&N is probably where it should be, it's probably not a Top 10 school, because it's probably easy to rattle off 10 schools that are better academically. But Rivers should definitely be lower - a LOT lower - unless your kid's a concert pianist.

Re: BBN, Rivers or Austin Prep?

Please provide an alternative ranking. Sounds like your view is clouded by the standing of these schools 30+ years ago and not current state of affairs. Perhaps he should apply to CM, best hockey in New England direct pipeline to BU.

Re: BBN, Rivers or Austin Prep?

Anon
Please provide an alternative ranking. Sounds like your view is clouded by the standing of these schools 30+ years ago and not current state of affairs. Perhaps he should apply to CM, best hockey in New England direct pipeline to BU.
Sure, why not? It's a Friday.

Just quickly, off the top of my head, I came up with this list.

1. Phillips Andover
2. Deerfield Academy
3. Roxbury Latin
4. Winsor School
5. Milton Academy
6. Groton School
7. Middlesex School
8. St. Marks
9. Nobles
10. BB&N

BB&N did sneak in - I had said they were probably 11th, but the Niche list was about MA only, which knocked schools like Exeter and St. Paul's out.

You can argue placement a little, but I really don't think there's anyone missing, and there's a decent drop from there.

Full disclosure, my kid just graduated from a school not listed, but he had classmates from middle school that went to 8 of the 10 schools on this list.

Have fun picking it apart.

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So basically the same list compiled by professionals.

Note to OP, you will have to do your research. Call the schools, set up a tour and interviews, contact the coach of the sports your kid would like to play. All of these schools are good but different culturally. Unfortunately there is no easy formula that will tell you what will work for your son. Good luck!

Re: BBN, Rivers or Austin Prep?

Anon
So basically the same list compiled by professionals.

Note to OP, you will have to do your research. Call the schools, set up a tour and interviews, contact the coach of the sports your kid would like to play. All of these schools are good but different culturally. Unfortunately there is no easy formula that will tell you what will work for your son. Good luck!
7 out of 10 is "the same?" You obviously have low standards.

But, it was as much the order Niche has them as the schools they included in their Top 10. Having Nobles #2 and Roxbury Latin #12 is just...wrong. Middlesex at #4 is too high, I know a ton of kids that have gone there. Concord Academy #9? Do they know anything about the school?

Re: BBN, Rivers or Austin Prep?

Anon
Anon
Please provide an alternative ranking. Sounds like your view is clouded by the standing of these schools 30+ years ago and not current state of affairs. Perhaps he should apply to CM, best hockey in New England direct pipeline to BU.
Sure, why not? It's a Friday.

Just quickly, off the top of my head, I came up with this list.

1. Phillips Andover
2. Deerfield Academy
3. Roxbury Latin
4. Winsor School
5. Milton Academy
6. Groton School
7. Middlesex School
8. St. Marks
9. Nobles
10. BB&N

BB&N did sneak in - I had said they were probably 11th, but the Niche list was about MA only, which knocked schools like Exeter and St. Paul's out.

You can argue placement a little, but I really don't think there's anyone missing, and there's a decent drop from there.

Full disclosure, my kid just graduated from a school not listed, but he had classmates from middle school that went to 8 of the 10 schools on this list.

Have fun picking it apart.
I would review prep schools using eliteprospects.com and see where alumni went to play after graduations. General rankings and college matriculation schools issue are not necsssary showing academic trajectory of hockey players - it shows mishmash of music type, art type, nerds, rich, legacies, and athletic recruits.

I have to say I am impressed with Rivers. They must to be doing a good job in giving good education to varsity players. College coaches would not take them if they cannot keep up with other smart kids in Ivies/NESCACs.

Re: BBN, Rivers or Austin Prep?

Anon
Anon
Anon
Please provide an alternative ranking. Sounds like your view is clouded by the standing of these schools 30+ years ago and not current state of affairs. Perhaps he should apply to CM, best hockey in New England direct pipeline to BU.
Sure, why not? It\'s a Friday.

Just quickly, off the top of my head, I came up with this list.

1. Phillips Andover
2. Deerfield Academy
3. Roxbury Latin
4. Winsor School
5. Milton Academy
6. Groton School
7. Middlesex School
8. St. Marks
9. Nobles
10. BB&N

BB&N did sneak in - I had said they were probably 11th, but the Niche list was about MA only, which knocked schools like Exeter and St. Paul\'s out.

You can argue placement a little, but I really don\'t think there\'s anyone missing, and there\'s a decent drop from there.

Full disclosure, my kid just graduated from a school not listed, but he had classmates from middle school that went to 8 of the 10 schools on this list.

Have fun picking it apart.
I would review prep schools using eliteprospects.com and see where alumni went to play after graduations. General rankings and college matriculation schools issue are not necsssary showing academic trajectory of hockey players - it shows mishmash of music type, art type, nerds, rich, legacies, and athletic recruits.

I have to say I am impressed with Rivers. They must to be doing a good job in giving good education to varsity players. College coaches would not take them if they cannot keep up with other smart kids in Ivies/NESCACs.

OW was committed to Harvard. Our HS QB cheated off of me in every class we had together, went to Princeton.

Don't think the Ivies don't take care of athletes.

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Committed but not admitted to Harvard. There is a big difference.

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So he went to the most overrated academic institution in the country, BC. Used to be a school for connected local catholic micks and a safety school for anyone with brains....Then they decided to globalize to beef up their endowment and poof, its now its supposedly a good school.



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Dexter
Phillips Exeter


Not on the list. Really?

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anon
Dexter
Phillips Exeter


Not on the list. Really?
Haha, Dexter? Are you serious? Dexter is a school of last resort, academically. Lower than Lawrence Academy, lower than St. Sebs.

PE is in NH, the discussion is about MA schools.

You must've gone to Dexter.

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Anon
Anon
Me thinks you should check some of the current prep school rankings. Not a ton of difference between number 11 and 16.

https://www.niche.com/k12/search/best-private-high-schools/s/massachusetts/
Haha, if you think these rankings are even CLOSE to reality, you don\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\'t know anything about Prep schools. Nobles #2? Complete joke. Roxbury Latin down at #12? Bigger joke. Concord Academy #9? Please.

BB&N is probably where it should be, it\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\'s probably not a Top 10 school, because it\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\'s probably easy to rattle off 10 schools that are better academically. But Rivers should definitely be lower - a LOT lower - unless your kid\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\'s a concert pianist.
agreed. rankings definitely must be a joke due to Malden Catholic on the list. What a dump. 100% of applicants with a check book get accepted. Absurd to be on the same list with SJP Danvers.

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Austin is not in the same league as the other two. Academically your better of at Fenwick or St. Mary's than AP.

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anon
Austin is not in the same league as the other two. Academically your better of at Fenwick or St. Mary's than AP.
Hard to take academic advice from someone that doesn't know the difference between a pronoun and a contraction.

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Anon
anon
Austin is not in the same league as the other two. Academically your better of at Fenwick or St. Mary\'s than AP.
Hard to take academic advice from someone that doesn't know the difference between a pronoun and a contraction.
point taken i graduated from AP

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Is AP a Prep school? It is more a glorified High School than a Prep school.

Re: BBN, Rivers or Austin Prep?

anon
Austin is not in the same league as the other two. Academically your better of at Fenwick or St. Mary\'s than AP.
Academically Austin Prep is a great school. I don't know much about Fenwick but have heard of kids that are C and D students at AP leaving for St. Mary's and all of a sudden they're A students.

Teachers are really good and they offer plenty of AP courses if your kid can handle it. Biggest problem is the Administration is run like a dictatorship and headmaster has to answer to nobody. New upper school diciplinarian is the biggest tool going and kids get suspended unevenly and for even the most minor issues that would be a detention in most if not all schools.

Sports at AP are a mixed bag because depending on the sport can be D1 all the way down to D5 or 6.

Re: BBN, Rivers or Austin Prep?

Aim for BBN/ Rivers and the like.

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We did the Austin Prep open house last year (enrolled at St. John's Prep) and that anon might be on to something. I was very turned off to the fact the school does not provide their average SAT scores. This was a major red flag. It also seems that teacher turn over is a real problem. The grounds are nice but the actual building is awful. Very happy at the Prep and would advise anyone to look at.

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Dexter is not a great academic school?

You sir are an idiot and have no idea what you are talking about if you make a statement like that.

I did not go to Dexter, but I have a clue.

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anon
Dexter is not a great academic school?

You sir are an idiot and have no idea what you are talking about if you make a statement like that.

I did not go to Dexter, but I have a clue.

Well, apparently a lot of other people are don't have a clue either, because it's ranked #45 in MA by Niche.

Below Lawrence Academy and St. Sebs.

But hey, I'm an idiot.

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Dexter is not what it used to be. In the last 10 years, Dexter has changed it's focus to sports. Of course there are smart kids there and not everyone who attends Dexter is an athlete however in the past, their focus was on the student first with sports taking a backseat.

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Exactly!!!!

Which is why so many kids are going to great schools!

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NICHE is a joke.

Do you really think CM is a better school than Groton?

They do. Joke

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Wrong. Niche has Groton as #6 and CM #63 -best private hs in Mass

Dexter #37

Please learn how to use the Internet

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The both of you repeat after me. PREP SCHOOL IS FOR BOOK WORMS AND TIN FOIL LIBERAL RETARDS.

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anon
The both of you repeat after me. PREP SCHOOL IS FOR BOOK WORMS AND TIN FOIL LIBERAL RETARDS.
Sorry your bender got cut

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Anon
anon
The both of you repeat after me. PREP SCHOOL IS FOR BOOK WORMS AND TIN FOIL LIBERAL RETARDS.
Sorry your bender got cut
More like your wallet got taken.

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anon
Anon
anon
The both of you repeat after me. PREP SCHOOL IS FOR BOOK WORMS AND TIN FOIL LIBERAL RETARDS.
Sorry your bender got cut
More like your wallet got taken.
Thank you for your concern. Wallet is still fat as school provides scholarships

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anon
The both of you repeat after me. PREP SCHOOL IS FOR BOOK WORMS AND TIN FOIL LIBERAL RETARDS.
I would venture a guess that you are paying more for your kids FS team than I'm paying for tuition, room & board for my son at his ISL school, funny how scholarships and financial aid work. He's getting a great education, developing connections that will serve him well over the course of his life and getting great exposure on the ice. So continue to tell yourself you did the right thing by over emphasizing a sport vs. your son's academic development and that it will all work out. "Son don't worry about your homework, we have drop in skills we have to go to!" Meantime, your son is playing in front of 10 people, none of whom our scouts because they are the prep games looking at players who will be able to not only play at the next level but can compete academically.

I know BOOKWORM, it's all politics and the development system is broken and you are going to help usher in change. Make sure you let Bazin, O'Connell, and all the other programs who have send recruiters to my kids games that you've got better idea. You're right, the development model is broken but not in the way that you think. The owners have convinced naive parents like you that FS is a better development model, that paying all this money will get him the development and exposure needed to reach the next level. Unfortunately for you, the next level is the USHL and they don't seem to agree with that assessment based upon the last two years of the draft.

Repeat after me, "In New England, if you want to give your kid the best chance at playing D-I hockey, Prep is the best path." If it's the NHL or bust because you kid can't cut it academically, send him up north to a solid Junior A or Major Junior program because he isn't going to go anywhere playing FS around these parts.

Re: BBN, Rivers or Austin Prep?

anon
anon
The both of you repeat after me. PREP SCHOOL IS FOR BOOK WORMS AND TIN FOIL LIBERAL RETARDS.
I would venture a guess that you are paying more for your kids FS team than I'm paying for tuition, room & board for my son at his ISL school, funny how scholarships and financial aid work. He's getting a great education, developing connections that will serve him well over the course of his life and getting great exposure on the ice. So continue to tell yourself you did the right thing by over emphasizing a sport vs. your son's academic development and that it will all work out. "Son don't worry about your homework, we have drop in skills we have to go to!" Meantime, your son is playing in front of 10 people, none of whom our scouts because they are the prep games looking at players who will be able to not only play at the next level but can compete academically.

I know BOOKWORM, it's all politics and the development system is broken and you are going to help usher in change. Make sure you let Bazin, O'Connell, and all the other programs who have send recruiters to my kids games that you've got better idea. You're right, the development model is broken but not in the way that you think. The owners have convinced naive parents like you that FS is a better development model, that paying all this money will get him the development and exposure needed to reach the next level. Unfortunately for you, the next level is the USHL and they don't seem to agree with that assessment based upon the last two years of the draft.

Repeat after me, "In New England, if you want to give your kid the best chance at playing D-I hockey, Prep is the best path." If it's the NHL or bust because you kid can't cut it academically, send him up north to a solid Junior A or Major Junior program because he isn't going to go anywhere playing FS around these parts.
We have bingo. You have just shown the problem in New England hockey development. Prep is not the answer. You want to know the reason why the ones in control think that Prep is the answer? I will tell you. The ones in control will lose out on easy bank if the current environment is not maintained. It is the only way they can make money. So instead of removing the cost barrier for many parents and doing the right thing. The ones in control will continue to make a living on youth sports by fleecing the parents.

Repeat after me, “PREP SCHOOL IS FOR BOOK WORMS AND TIN FOIL LIBERAL RETARDS “. It is not for developing elite hockey players.

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anon
anon
The both of you repeat after me. PREP SCHOOL IS FOR BOOK WORMS AND TIN FOIL LIBERAL RETARDS.
I would venture a guess that you are paying more for your kids FS team than I'm paying for tuition, room & board for my son at his ISL school, funny how scholarships and financial aid work. He's getting a great education, developing connections that will serve him well over the course of his life and getting great exposure on the ice. So continue to tell yourself you did the right thing by over emphasizing a sport vs. your son's academic development and that it will all work out. "Son don't worry about your homework, we have drop in skills we have to go to!" Meantime, your son is playing in front of 10 people, none of whom our scouts because they are the prep games looking at players who will be able to not only play at the next level but can compete academically.

I know BOOKWORM, it's all politics and the development system is broken and you are going to help usher in change. Make sure you let Bazin, O'Connell, and all the other programs who have send recruiters to my kids games that you've got better idea. You're right, the development model is broken but not in the way that you think. The owners have convinced naive parents like you that FS is a better development model, that paying all this money will get him the development and exposure needed to reach the next level. Unfortunately for you, the next level is the USHL and they don't seem to agree with that assessment based upon the last two years of the draft.

Repeat after me, "In New England, if you want to give your kid the best chance at playing D-I hockey, Prep is the best path." If it's the NHL or bust because you kid can't cut it academically, send him up north to a solid Junior A or Major Junior program because he isn't going to go anywhere playing FS around these parts.
A great education? You mean like when they get a bad grade and get to take the test over and over and over until the grade is better? You mean when they are late to a meeting or class and it just gets brushed off? Yes, very much like real life #cmon
The connections they are making are just rich kids hanging with rich kids talking about how many homes they have, cars dad drives, and business family owns. I hope they enjoy these years at Prep because at some point they will need to stand on their own 2 feet, have a job, pay for gas, be accountable for themselves...Prep claims to teach you that, but it does not.

Re: BBN, Rivers or Austin Prep?

anon
anon
anon
The both of you repeat after me. PREP SCHOOL IS FOR BOOK WORMS AND TIN FOIL LIBERAL RETARDS.
I would venture a guess that you are paying more for your kids FS team than I\'m paying for tuition, room & board for my son at his ISL school, funny how scholarships and financial aid work. He\'s getting a great education, developing connections that will serve him well over the course of his life and getting great exposure on the ice. So continue to tell yourself you did the right thing by over emphasizing a sport vs. your son\'s academic development and that it will all work out. \"Son don\'t worry about your homework, we have drop in skills we have to go to!\" Meantime, your son is playing in front of 10 people, none of whom our scouts because they are the prep games looking at players who will be able to not only play at the next level but can compete academically.

I know BOOKWORM, it\'s all politics and the development system is broken and you are going to help usher in change. Make sure you let Bazin, O\'Connell, and all the other programs who have send recruiters to my kids games that you\'ve got better idea. You\'re right, the development model is broken but not in the way that you think. The owners have convinced naive parents like you that FS is a better development model, that paying all this money will get him the development and exposure needed to reach the next level. Unfortunately for you, the next level is the USHL and they don\'t seem to agree with that assessment based upon the last two years of the draft.

Repeat after me, \"In New England, if you want to give your kid the best chance at playing D-I hockey, Prep is the best path.\" If it\'s the NHL or bust because you kid can\'t cut it academically, send him up north to a solid Junior A or Major Junior program because he isn\'t going to go anywhere playing FS around these parts.
A great education? You mean like when they get a bad grade and get to take the test over and over and over until the grade is better? You mean when they are late to a meeting or class and it just gets brushed off? Yes, very much like real life #cmon
The connections they are making are just rich kids hanging with rich kids talking about how many homes they have, cars dad drives, and business family owns. I hope they enjoy these years at Prep because at some point they will need to stand on their own 2 feet, have a job, pay for gas, be accountable for themselves...Prep claims to teach you that, but it does not.
I can't find one element in your understanding of the Prep School experience that is even close to true. You clearly have no idea.

Prep schools have far lower tolerance levels than public schools. You can't get expelled from a public school, short being convicted of a crime.

As for all those supposed wealthy kids walking around, that is a far, far lower proportion of people than you think. As in, single digit percentages. Most kids come from means, but not the kind of wealth you're describing. And a much higher percentage of kids are receiving aid (athletes and non-athletes) than are independently wealthy.

Re: BBN, Rivers or Austin Prep?

Anon
anon
anon
anon
The both of you repeat after me. PREP SCHOOL IS FOR BOOK WORMS AND TIN FOIL LIBERAL RETARDS.
I would venture a guess that you are paying more for your kids FS team than I\\\'m paying for tuition, room & board for my son at his ISL school, funny how scholarships and financial aid work. He\\\'s getting a great education, developing connections that will serve him well over the course of his life and getting great exposure on the ice. So continue to tell yourself you did the right thing by over emphasizing a sport vs. your son\\\'s academic development and that it will all work out. \\\"Son don\\\'t worry about your homework, we have drop in skills we have to go to!\\\" Meantime, your son is playing in front of 10 people, none of whom our scouts because they are the prep games looking at players who will be able to not only play at the next level but can compete academically.

I know BOOKWORM, it\\\'s all politics and the development system is broken and you are going to help usher in change. Make sure you let Bazin, O\\\'Connell, and all the other programs who have send recruiters to my kids games that you\\\'ve got better idea. You\\\'re right, the development model is broken but not in the way that you think. The owners have convinced naive parents like you that FS is a better development model, that paying all this money will get him the development and exposure needed to reach the next level. Unfortunately for you, the next level is the USHL and they don\\\'t seem to agree with that assessment based upon the last two years of the draft.

Repeat after me, \\\"In New England, if you want to give your kid the best chance at playing D-I hockey, Prep is the best path.\\\" If it\\\'s the NHL or bust because you kid can\\\'t cut it academically, send him up north to a solid Junior A or Major Junior program because he isn\\\'t going to go anywhere playing FS around these parts.
A great education? You mean like when they get a bad grade and get to take the test over and over and over until the grade is better? You mean when they are late to a meeting or class and it just gets brushed off? Yes, very much like real life #cmon
The connections they are making are just rich kids hanging with rich kids talking about how many homes they have, cars dad drives, and business family owns. I hope they enjoy these years at Prep because at some point they will need to stand on their own 2 feet, have a job, pay for gas, be accountable for themselves...Prep claims to teach you that, but it does not.
I can't find one element in your understanding of the Prep School experience that is even close to true. You clearly have no idea.

Prep schools have far lower tolerance levels than public schools. You can't get expelled from a public school, short being convicted of a crime.

As for all those supposed wealthy kids walking around, that is a far, far lower proportion of people than you think. As in, single digit percentages. Most kids come from means, but not the kind of wealth you're describing. And a much higher percentage of kids are receiving aid (athletes and non-athletes) than are independently wealthy.
So if your son gets a bad grade at his Prep School he doesn't get to take the test again and maybe 1 more time? You honestly feel an A at prep is the same as an A at a public school? Not sure the last time you were in public school but kids are being expelled for Vape, Alcohol, Fights, ect..We must agree that should be the same regardless of prep or public.
If the wealthy were only in single digits than many prep schools would close. That endowment money has to come from somewhere and that's from full pay students and donations made by their parents. I have worked at 3 Prep Schools and I am right.:heavy_dollar_sign:

Re: BBN, Rivers or Austin Prep?

anon
Anon
anon
anon
anon
The both of you repeat after me. PREP SCHOOL IS FOR BOOK WORMS AND TIN FOIL LIBERAL RETARDS.
I would venture a guess that you are paying more for your kids FS team than I\\\\\\\'m paying for tuition, room & board for my son at his ISL school, funny how scholarships and financial aid work. He\\\\\\\'s getting a great education, developing connections that will serve him well over the course of his life and getting great exposure on the ice. So continue to tell yourself you did the right thing by over emphasizing a sport vs. your son\\\\\\\'s academic development and that it will all work out. \\\\\\\"Son don\\\\\\\'t worry about your homework, we have drop in skills we have to go to!\\\\\\\" Meantime, your son is playing in front of 10 people, none of whom our scouts because they are the prep games looking at players who will be able to not only play at the next level but can compete academically.

I know BOOKWORM, it\\\\\\\'s all politics and the development system is broken and you are going to help usher in change. Make sure you let Bazin, O\\\\\\\'Connell, and all the other programs who have send recruiters to my kids games that you\\\\\\\'ve got better idea. You\\\\\\\'re right, the development model is broken but not in the way that you think. The owners have convinced naive parents like you that FS is a better development model, that paying all this money will get him the development and exposure needed to reach the next level. Unfortunately for you, the next level is the USHL and they don\\\\\\\'t seem to agree with that assessment based upon the last two years of the draft.

Repeat after me, \\\\\\\"In New England, if you want to give your kid the best chance at playing D-I hockey, Prep is the best path.\\\\\\\" If it\\\\\\\'s the NHL or bust because you kid can\\\\\\\'t cut it academically, send him up north to a solid Junior A or Major Junior program because he isn\\\\\\\'t going to go anywhere playing FS around these parts.
A great education? You mean like when they get a bad grade and get to take the test over and over and over until the grade is better? You mean when they are late to a meeting or class and it just gets brushed off? Yes, very much like real life #cmon
The connections they are making are just rich kids hanging with rich kids talking about how many homes they have, cars dad drives, and business family owns. I hope they enjoy these years at Prep because at some point they will need to stand on their own 2 feet, have a job, pay for gas, be accountable for themselves...Prep claims to teach you that, but it does not.
I can\'t find one element in your understanding of the Prep School experience that is even close to true. You clearly have no idea.

Prep schools have far lower tolerance levels than public schools. You can\'t get expelled from a public school, short being convicted of a crime.

As for all those supposed wealthy kids walking around, that is a far, far lower proportion of people than you think. As in, single digit percentages. Most kids come from means, but not the kind of wealth you\'re describing. And a much higher percentage of kids are receiving aid (athletes and non-athletes) than are independently wealthy.
So if your son gets a bad grade at his Prep School he doesn't get to take the test again and maybe 1 more time? You honestly feel an A at prep is the same as an A at a public school? Not sure the last time you were in public school but kids are being expelled for Vape, Alcohol, Fights, ect..We must agree that should be the same regardless of prep or public.
If the wealthy were only in single digits than many prep schools would close. That endowment money has to come from somewhere and that's from full pay students and donations made by their parents. I have worked at 3 Prep Schools and I am right.:heavy_dollar_sign:
When I was in HS i didn't even know what Prep Schools or the Ivy League were. But, my kid was in Private Schools all the way through, JK though 12, because it was the right thing for him, and he's thrived in that environment. it wasn't easy at first, but we made it a priority.

I am and always have been a full payer. I make donations to the school.

I don't own multiple houses or own any businesses. I work for "the man" just like you. I'm just better at it. And I'm a saver, and a good investor.

I drive a six year old car worth $20K that happens to be a German marque that people probably assume is worth way more. I bought it used, it has 120,000 miles on it, and I plan to keep it indefinitely.

To my knowledge, my kid has never been allowed to retake a test once, let alone twice. That covers Prep, Junior Prep, and two independent elementary day schools. Maybe he just never needed to. Biut, that isn't my understanding of the process.

Find me a kid that was expelled for vaping (queue up Brownsville Station), and I'll tell you about the kid that was expelled from my kid's Prep school for alleged sexual assault - and was picked up immediately by a public school because he could put the biscuit in the basket.

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The both of you repeat after me. PREP SCHOOL IS FOR BOOK WORMS AND TIN FOIL LIBERAL RETARDS.
I would venture a guess that you are paying more for your kids FS team than I\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\'m paying for tuition, room & board for my son at his ISL school, funny how scholarships and financial aid work. He\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\'s getting a great education, developing connections that will serve him well over the course of his life and getting great exposure on the ice. So continue to tell yourself you did the right thing by over emphasizing a sport vs. your son\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\'s academic development and that it will all work out. \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\"Son don\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\'t worry about your homework, we have drop in skills we have to go to!\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\" Meantime, your son is playing in front of 10 people, none of whom our scouts because they are the prep games looking at players who will be able to not only play at the next level but can compete academically.

I know BOOKWORM, it\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\'s all politics and the development system is broken and you are going to help usher in change. Make sure you let Bazin, O\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\'Connell, and all the other programs who have send recruiters to my kids games that you\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\'ve got better idea. You\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\'re right, the development model is broken but not in the way that you think. The owners have convinced naive parents like you that FS is a better development model, that paying all this money will get him the development and exposure needed to reach the next level. Unfortunately for you, the next level is the USHL and they don\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\'t seem to agree with that assessment based upon the last two years of the draft.

Repeat after me, \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\"In New England, if you want to give your kid the best chance at playing D-I hockey, Prep is the best path.\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\" If it\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\'s the NHL or bust because you kid can\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\'t cut it academically, send him up north to a solid Junior A or Major Junior program because he isn\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\'t going to go anywhere playing FS around these parts.
A great education? You mean like when they get a bad grade and get to take the test over and over and over until the grade is better? You mean when they are late to a meeting or class and it just gets brushed off? Yes, very much like real life #cmon
The connections they are making are just rich kids hanging with rich kids talking about how many homes they have, cars dad drives, and business family owns. I hope they enjoy these years at Prep because at some point they will need to stand on their own 2 feet, have a job, pay for gas, be accountable for themselves...Prep claims to teach you that, but it does not.
I can\\\'t find one element in your understanding of the Prep School experience that is even close to true. You clearly have no idea.

Prep schools have far lower tolerance levels than public schools. You can\\\'t get expelled from a public school, short being convicted of a crime.

As for all those supposed wealthy kids walking around, that is a far, far lower proportion of people than you think. As in, single digit percentages. Most kids come from means, but not the kind of wealth you\\\'re describing. And a much higher percentage of kids are receiving aid (athletes and non-athletes) than are independently wealthy.
So if your son gets a bad grade at his Prep School he doesn\'t get to take the test again and maybe 1 more time? You honestly feel an A at prep is the same as an A at a public school? Not sure the last time you were in public school but kids are being expelled for Vape, Alcohol, Fights, ect..We must agree that should be the same regardless of prep or public.
If the wealthy were only in single digits than many prep schools would close. That endowment money has to come from somewhere and that\'s from full pay students and donations made by their parents. I have worked at 3 Prep Schools and I am right.:heavy_dollar_sign:
When I was in HS i didn't even know what Prep Schools or the Ivy League were. But, my kid was in Private Schools all the way through, JK though 12, because it was the right thing for him, and he's thrived in that environment. it wasn't easy at first, but we made it a priority.

I am and always have been a full payer. I make donations to the school.

I don't own multiple houses or own any businesses. I work for "the man" just like you. I'm just better at it. And I'm a saver, and a good investor.

I drive a six year old car worth $20K that happens to be a German marque that people probably assume is worth way more. I bought it used, it has 120,000 miles on it, and I plan to keep it indefinitely.

To my knowledge, my kid has never been allowed to retake a test once, let alone twice. That covers Prep, Junior Prep, and two independent elementary day schools. Maybe he just never needed to. Biut, that isn't my understanding of the process.

Find me a kid that was expelled for vaping (queue up Brownsville Station), and I'll tell you about the kid that was expelled from my kid's Prep school for alleged sexual assault - and was picked up immediately by a public school because he could put the biscuit in the basket.
If he went to Cardigan, Eaglebrook or Fay for JR Boarding he was able to take tests multiple times until the grade was acceptable, no questions asked (I taught at 1 of those) I don't care about your car, your investments or whatever else you feel like patting yourself on the back about, bottom line is that percentage of full pay students are nowhere near single digits at any Prep School... and every kid deserves a second chance, especially if hes a goal scorer. Seriously though was he convicted or alleged? Was his name Antonio Brown?