There's the tweet of justification. We want the players that D1 scouts couldn't see enough of. So the 1%ers are the ones they want. Now, they need to get those 1%ers to pay. This has been entertaining to watch unfold. Thank you NZ.
Not many high end players are Interested in it. No upside, still a dead period. Save the money and use it on a skating coach.
Thanks Jeff Cox. NZ is hiring when the timing is right for you.
Why didn’t they take anyone from Dexter?
Good group of picks but are all of these borders going remote just to play for 10 weeks in front of nobody? Team Black. I’ll take the players I saw last night.. all of them.
Guys, now they have to convince all those players to pay for it. Games are going to end up being 7v9
You don’t think the kids who were selected want to play?? The boys emailed their availability because they want a hockey season. For the most part they go to schools that charge $50k/yr, you think money is going to be a problem?
Stop trying to crap on one of the only groups that is trying to help these boys.
This is the same boring list of kids we have been seeing since brick tryouts 9 years ago. Way to go out on a limb and invite deserving kids that could use a chance to be seen rather than the ones that have been shoved down everyone’s throats forever. Zzzzzz
Ouch! Sorry your bender got cut!
And there is the same boring response.
You’ve been harboring this anger and jealousy for 9 years?!? Get help man.
Yeah what he said
Will they be not be playing each other? I’ll put a few teams of the field together to play the chosen ones. You think now that MA is opening up these kids want to spend 5 days a week for 10 weeks back in the rink. Nope.
Haha. Love the mafia talk tough guy
Curious how so many "out of region" kids plan to participate in the league. The real shame will be if some of these kids took the spot of a local kid and only plan to show up once a week...
^^Agree, they missed the mark with this one. Good news is that now all these kids are locked into a small league playing only each other. Local kids that actually need exposure now have the opportunity to fill spots on established teams and play in the better events. Zero kids will want to be alternates for these guys now, hope they get full rosters for all their games.
1 big decision all kids and families need to make is coaching. Are these old timers who you want coaching/developing young athletes? Lots of whiteboard work and screaming in the future for the “drafted” player. Do this drill, little Tommy, go show how to do it, I can’t my knee hurts. 1 coach may never leave the couch.
In all honesty this was the last straw, my son wants to quit because of this stupid draft. We talk about kids mental health but literally s hit on them at the same time. These guys are complete d icks, don’t trust them for a second, last week he was in, all of a sudden not on the radar.
My son was picked and 1 piece of advice for all of those who were selected. When discussing the fee, remember that they need you more than your kid needs this league. Consumer power at its finest. A draft for a pay league?
I don’t know, I guess we just took them at their word that they were speaking to junior, college and NHL coaches and scouts. And no my bender doesn’t attend dexter.
This started off as a nice idea but ended up completely off the rails with too many voices telling them what to do. It was about having a local opportunity for high end player that missed out this winter. For them to be seen. It has ended up with players from all over and has that typical feel. It is the same old crap. MS and CJF are playing in the ushl. Do they need to be seen. No. MC is committed to Harvard. Give me a break. WK is related to the Lovells and is good but does it belong in this list. Players from VT Academy and boarding schools in NY???? ‘01s? There are so many great players missing. Good news for RB hockey there are 500+ players waiting for a spring league.
WOW...That is awesome! Where in the USHL are these guys playing? That league keeps pretty good stats on their website even if you just dress for a game, you are listed.
There is a big difference between "visiting" your USHL team and "playing" for your USHL team.
Dumb ass question. You had to apply to be considered. Obviously many players didnt even apply due to conflicts.
Gotta love the 14-15yo picks, they sure missed out on a lot during this pandemic and need the extra exposure because why?
My son brought this league to my attention Saturday. I’m a bit of a law nerd and find this fascinating. A company that charges a fee to customers for unbiased analysis of athletes is now offering “some” of there customers a new completely biased service. Does not get more unethical than this. That’s like the cable company offering your neighbor HBO for $10 per month but not offering you anything because they like them more. Unethical.
The other part is they give athletes star ratings on their site as part of their service. So let’s say there are 20 kids with the same unbiased star rating but only 8 were offered a spot in their league, unfortunately that falls under discrimination by law. That could have been avoided by holding a tryout.
Like I said I’m a law nerd and some of it is cheeky but it is business law. I would guess consumers will drop their subscriptions but these are hockey parents so who knows what legal actions they will take.
In short, don’t offer biased services to select customers.
I have read some ridiculous stuff on this website but claiming that picking some kids and not others to play in a spring hockey league constitutes discrimination may be the dumbest.
There is nothing “neutral” when you hold a draft picking kids. Nice idea but horribly executed and a dumb move in general. Why do mostly committed kids need a showcase when they haven’t really lost anything? I haven’t heard of any de-commits because of covid. It’s the kids who aren’t committed that have been hosed the most. That draft was far from independent and watching it live they showed their cards with some of their comments where they let it slip. Practically though, good luck getting half these kids to pay the full $, attend these practices and show up to games when they are in Vermont? and CT? Some of the kids they drafted play high level lax and baseball which didn’t have a season last year so they are anxious to play. At the same time, colleges are in a dead period until May 31st so no one you care about is watching this live and they already committed a decent amount already so they don’t need to watch crappy video of ‘02s and ‘03s playing ‘06s to judge their game further. I know some of the committed kids are being told its not worth the injury risk by their agents. What bothers me is seeing kids who don’t touch the ice at their prep school being selected because of their connections but yea the NHL independent scouts really want to see that ’05. It’s comical and further evidence of how the hockey world truly works and this time disguised under the banner of an unbiased web site. Basically every kid taken was connected either by an agent or by one organization/owner where one guy from NZ works. I’m obviously ****** they didn’t draft my kid who got screwed but he’ll use it as motivation and stay at it because he loves the sport and is driven. I actually do hope it works out for the uncommitted kids in the league and they drafted a lot of talented kids but I won’t be reading about it as I cancelled my subscription. Hard to pay for a neutral service when its clearly BS.
My son didn't "apply" as he is out of state and won't be leaving school for this. But I can understand the frustration. It comes down to what NZ's mission statement is. Is it to scout players and write as much on the top players so that they can say "look, we wrote about him 9 times in 2 years" when they do well, OR, is it to promote all players and try and find players that others may not be talking about.
If the latter, they likely should have just created a "non-committed" league - anyone with a college commit or high levels junior tender / draft pick should not be eligible. Instead what they have done is just created another off season skills camp.
Huge misstep by these guys. Alienated 99.9% of their customer base for what? I would guess someone wants to get into coaching ranks again or better scouting situation? Blow it up and move on. What a mess created for no reason at all. Can't stand by a company like this, subscription cancelled.
IM didn’t get to see them enough at the BJE’s Skills sessions or the private lessons at Boch. Not even the best forwards on the team. The best DMan is there and he doesn’t live on the North Shore. Nepotism and Cronyism alive and well.
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Based on the rosters, I would be shocked if this starts before June. You have seniors at boarding schools that won't be back until June. If they are on campus, why would they leave campus for their last couple months of HS to play against kids they have been playing with against their whole lives.
Not to mention many in that group play baseball and lacrosse for their schools so not sure how that will work.
All Jr Eagles and IM Skills guys for the 06’s. Not a coincidence.
They picked 06's? Why would an 02 or 03 want to play with 06's - especially if they just came of their prep team playing with/against younger kids. I don't care if it is Gretzky...that makes no sense.
This league is full of talent, but who is going to be happy on a third line? 1 puck, 5 guys at a time. Can’t wait to watch this! Kaaaboom! Pssst.. be prepared for locker room fights.
If you're so upset about this, head over to Dexter and buy yourself a $50,000 jersey. That seems to be a sure way of getting into the league.
murphy did say "its like getting into an ivy" - what he left out was the college admission scandal version of getting into an ivy where shady backroom deals were done. Seems like the right comparison to the crap that went on here.
Complete dirtbags. IM just treating these kids like sheep. Dirtbags. Then Murphy saying it’s like ivy, GTFOOH with the Ivy talk, you took committed kids who have been playing, you took all of Dexter who have been playing, and you took all the nhl kids, Greer, UFKM, your all a joke. You lie, your dirtbags, you deserve the worse. Hope you lose NZ and drive a zamboni rest of your life. Some guy picking every kid he watched from rivers/ st sebs game the day before. You just became the biggest part of the problem in NE hockey. F ucking losers to do that to kids, I hope it blows up on you.
Every kid you just hosed
Every single kid on the U18 Eagles picked except their goalie. What’s that all about?
The goalie's dad wasn't willing to suck Jaffe off when he asked.
Not worried about their business model, they just put out a new report of 150 D2/D3 kids in MIAA. That should help jack up the revenue stream for a while.
This thing has the feel of when The Prospects Superskills first started years ago. Will be cool for the first month or so, then, meh....
Seriously - is there any other reason to post a report about "B rated" MIAA D3 players other than to make parents pay to see what was written about them?
Hard to say this is "Neutral" when 12 of them are from Dexter. Doesn't give some others a chance who could have been picked when entire teams are asked to play. Just ask the top four prep's to put a teams in and have them play together. Set up another division with some kids who could compete. Let them have a playoffs at the end and see how they all do. Better set up.
As an agent/advisor to a few of the kids selected, they will not be taking part in this. No need, better off focusing on off season work. Also, I don't think the kids from NJ/CA/IA,MT, etc.. will be making the trip for this so it will not be worth the time and money. Good luck!
Just saw that Neutral Zone is teasing a new 500 player scouting report on house league hockey teams and learn to skate. Only a matter of time before IM and M driving a TL style porsches. Got to love the hockey world.
It's a spring hockey league guys, wtf. I know that getting left behind sucks but C'mon. The NZ guys are laughing at you and you will eventually make it to one of their twitter skits before long. The whole thing and the reaction is comical. Who cares. .......So your kid wasn't invited to the Kool Kid Club, who cares, let it go.
They “lied to the kids” because your kid didn’t get selected? Basically they did everything they promised to do but you had unrealistic expectations and are upset. Is it IMs fault that you think your kid is better than he is?
Check out the NZ star ratings of the kids selected. Pretty much matches validates everyone who was picked.
Murphy looking for help with website and 540 dudes who know how to do it are just flipping him off!
If your kid is an 06 or older than you know how the game is played. Your kid is either good and deserves a spot on the team or in the league, or you or your college roommate are involved in the decisions of who gets a spot. If you don't fall into one of those categories ,then suck it up. Remember back to squirts when you pulled the same stuff,now the stakes are higher and you don't have any strings to pull UNLESS your kid is good and deserves a spot on the team or you or your college roommate are on team NZ. Capitalism at its finest!
This whole post sums up New England Hockey in a nutshell. People with money b itching over there kid being selected or not selected to this league. It has nothing to do with the best kids in the region playing hockey.
Everybody calm down and repeat after me.
PREP SCHOOL IS FOR BOOK WORMS AND TIN FOIL LIBERAL RETARDS
JC and IM want you all to get along. Their income relies on it.
IM should care about what the parents think, they pay for the subscriptions
Is this thread still alive? Move on people, it does not matter.No one will be paying attention. What did your kid get on his chemistry test? A much better thing to focus on.
No shot of this thread going away until every subscription is gone. Consumers need to know these guys are garbage. They showed their true colors with this crap and deserve to be driven out of business, 1 consumer at a time. Sleep well a zzholes!
Sorry NZ cut your kid.
My kid just text me that he is a 3.5 star..what does that mean? Help out an old dad here.
Been traveling non stop. What is this league all about? Can I throw some cash at it and get my son in?
Looks like kids are backing out due to cost. Have your ringers on if you were not selected, you might be good enough now!