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Can someone explain to me SSM Org. Do they have a separate club team and HS team? Do they have 2 teams at each level? Is it like MSC with the HS kids and academy kids?

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Academy model:

14U AAA
15U AAA
16U AAA
Prep (their top 18U AAA team)
18U AAA (their high school team)

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Anonymous
Academy model:

14U AAA
15U AAA
16U AAA
Prep (their top 18U AAA team)
18U AAA (their high school team)
Exactly.

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Anon
Can someone explain to me SSM Org. Do they have a separate club team and HS team? Do they have 2 teams at each level? Is it like MSC with the HS kids and academy kids?
Your kids team gets a free pass to nationals each season no state qualifier tournament competition in MN. He gets to skip the local state camp tryouts and even sometimes the actual state tryout (ask parents) and go to the national camp festivals. Cutting ahead of potentially better players who parents chose to not send their kid to an overpriced academy in MN or RI. Don't worry your kid wont be exposed he didn't have to show up to those tryouts. The SSM and MSC path is the best path for the easiest way to the watered down festivals taking place soon.

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Uh oh… someone’s kid didn’t get into Mount or Shattuck…

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Someone’s kid is not yet in hs but was just curious. Someone will not be sending their kid to either bc someone thinks education is super important and someone’s kid has already been approached by msc but not SSM

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Anon
Someone’s kid is not yet in hs but was just curious. Someone will not be sending their kid to either bc someone thinks education is super important and someone’s kid has already been approached by msc but not SSM
Look at SSM and MSC’s track record. Top places for top prospects to develop. MSC also must play in the NE tournament to qualify for Nationals

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Anonymous
Anon
Someone’s kid is not yet in hs but was just curious. Someone will not be sending their kid to either bc someone thinks education is super important and someone’s kid has already been approached by msc but not SSM
Look at SSM and MSC’s track record. Top places for top prospects to develop. MSC also must play in the NE tournament to qualify for Nationals
Both are great places for the connections not the hockey development.

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Anon
Anonymous
Anon
Someone’s kid is not yet in hs but was just curious. Someone will not be sending their kid to either bc someone thinks education is super important and someone’s kid has already been approached by msc but not SSM
Look at SSM and MSC’s track record. Top places for top prospects to develop. MSC also must play in the NE tournament to qualify for Nationals
Both are great places for the connections not the hockey development.
False

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what about that is false? genuinely curious

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anon
what about that is false? genuinely curious
Both places, especially MSC are excellent for development. Ever watch teams from either program play or are you just a D board troll? Basically the programs attract top players and the internal competition breeds improvement. They also have rinks on campus so the players have the resources they need in one place

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Anonymous
anon
what about that is false? genuinely curious
Both places, especially MSC are excellent for development. Ever watch teams from either program play or are you just a D board troll? Basically the programs attract top players and the internal competition breeds improvement. They also have rinks on campus so the players have the resources they need in one place
You said it yourself. Program grabs some of the top players from all over. Kids who are good athletes who developed elsewhere. Neither of these academies do a good job of actual hockey development. It’s a great place for the connections game and it makes them plenty of money. Attend a watered down national festival you didn’t tryout for because you attended our school. Outside of that you could go to plenty of other academy’s and get better development.

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Anon
Anonymous
anon
what about that is false? genuinely curious
Both places, especially MSC are excellent for development. Ever watch teams from either program play or are you just a D board troll? Basically the programs attract top players and the internal competition breeds improvement. They also have rinks on campus so the players have the resources they need in one place
You said it yourself. Program grabs some of the top players from all over. Kids who are good athletes who developed elsewhere. Neither of these academies do a good job of actual hockey development. It’s a great place for the connections game and it makes them plenty of money. Attend a watered down national festival you didn’t tryout for because you attended our school. Outside of that you could go to plenty of other academy’s and get better development.
Jesus buddy, it’s a great place for DEVELOPMENT of top players. Why do you think top players (who could play absolutely anywhere, the CE and JH of the world) go to Mount and SSM??? It’s because they can practice (develop) with other top players and have the resources (rink, shooting area, weight room) ((develop)) whenever they’re not in school

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Anonymous
Anon
Anonymous
anon
what about that is false? genuinely curious
Both places, especially MSC are excellent for development. Ever watch teams from either program play or are you just a D board troll? Basically the programs attract top players and the internal competition breeds improvement. They also have rinks on campus so the players have the resources they need in one place
You said it yourself. Program grabs some of the top players from all over. Kids who are good athletes who developed elsewhere. Neither of these academies do a good job of actual hockey development. It’s a great place for the connections game and it makes them plenty of money. Attend a watered down national festival you didn’t tryout for because you attended our school. Outside of that you could go to plenty of other academy’s and get better development.
Jesus buddy, it’s a great place for DEVELOPMENT of top players. Why do you think top players (who could play absolutely anywhere, the CE and JH of the world) go to Mount and SSM??? It’s because they can practice (develop) with other top players and have the resources (rink, shooting area, weight room) ((develop)) whenever they’re not in school
I guess the top players at SSM and MSC hit development peak at peewee, squirt, or maybe mite years, and then their development slowed or stopped after being grabbed by some top AAA teams and then academy teams. Although these players remain at the top of their age group, advancing to top junior and D1 programs, going to SSM and MSC actually hurt their development and they would do better if went somewhere else less competitive. It makes a lot of sense.

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Anon
Anonymous
Anon
Anonymous
anon
what about that is false? genuinely curious
Both places, especially MSC are excellent for development. Ever watch teams from either program play or are you just a D board troll? Basically the programs attract top players and the internal competition breeds improvement. They also have rinks on campus so the players have the resources they need in one place
You said it yourself. Program grabs some of the top players from all over. Kids who are good athletes who developed elsewhere. Neither of these academies do a good job of actual hockey development. It’s a great place for the connections game and it makes them plenty of money. Attend a watered down national festival you didn’t tryout for because you attended our school. Outside of that you could go to plenty of other academy’s and get better development.
Jesus buddy, it’s a great place for DEVELOPMENT of top players. Why do you think top players (who could play absolutely anywhere, the CE and JH of the world) go to Mount and SSM??? It’s because they can practice (develop) with other top players and have the resources (rink, shooting area, weight room) ((develop)) whenever they’re not in school
I guess the top players at SSM and MSC hit development peak at peewee, squirt, or maybe mite years, and then their development slowed or stopped after being grabbed by some top AAA teams and then academy teams. Although these players remain at the top of their age group, advancing to top junior and D1 programs, going to SSM and MSC actually hurt their development and they would do better if went somewhere else less competitive. It makes a lot of sense.
No one said it hurt the players development. Saying these 2 places outside of the connections are the best or even good at developing hockey players just isn't true. Pointing to junior and D1 is an example of connections being used to get good players opportunities. Nothing wrong with that at all. Most good programs have access to all the same resources and arguably better coaching in each area. Would some of these players do better developing somewhere else? Yes some of them would if it meant more individualized attention to detail and skills coaching.

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What are the “plenty of other academy’s” where top players at SSM and MSC can “get better development”?

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Anon
What are the “plenty of other academy’s” where top players at SSM and MSC can “get better development”?
You can go on google type in hockey academy there are plenty to choose from. One of the academies doing a great job all over the country is total package hockey TPH. There are plenty of others also doing a great job with player development.

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Anon
Anon
What are the “plenty of other academy’s” where top players at SSM and MSC can “get better development”?
You can go on google type in hockey academy there are plenty to choose from. One of the academies doing a great job all over the country is total package hockey TPH. There are plenty of others also doing a great job with player development.
This guys is a legit joke. Comparing TPH to SSM and MSC. Good one pal, good one. Sorry your kid is nowhere near good enough to play at MSC and SSM

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If you think every family wants to send their hockey player to either of the two your the bigger joke. Yes other hockey academy’s offer better development and individualized attention and skill development than both. You paid for the connections and the school jackets nothing wrong with that.

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Anon
If you think every family wants to send their hockey player to either of the two your the bigger joke. Yes other hockey academy’s offer better development and individualized attention and skill development than both. You paid for the connections and the school jackets nothing wrong with that.
You're a clown no one wants to send their kid anywhere near your kid, or you

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There are certainly lots of hockey academies to choose from all over the country, TPH being one of the bigger ones -- almost like a franchise model. If you're cool with online school and your kid focusing exclusively on hockey, seems like it offers a good program and development for lots of kids, which is great.

But SSM and MSC seem like different animals to me. (Along with the likes of Northwood, South Kent, and Culver.) First off, they're attached to brick and mortar schools. The school experience is in-person and more traditional, offering a more well-rounded high school experience, which is appealing to many families.

And these schools, SSM and MSC in particular, also cater to the very, very top players. Starting at 14U, they recruit the top kids across the US and Canada. They are essentially birth year all-star teams. The top kids are attracted to playing with top kids. I think it's less about "connections" and more about the perceived prestige of being among the "chosen ones." Yeah, that may be a dumb notion, especially when talking about 14 year-old kids, but that's what those schools are selling to kids, and they have the tradition, alumni, and track records to back it up.

It also seems silly to say there is no development at these schools. Of course there is. The coaches are good. The kids are on the ice and working out every day. And they compete against other top kids. How do they not develop?

What's a more interesting debate relative to SSM, MSC and other academies is how good it is for the kids who are in the middle or bottom of the roster? No doubt those kids are solid players, but would they be better served going elsewhere?

Some of the kids will develop and potentially become top players as they get older and move up the ranks of the SSM and MSC teams. But, and this is just an opinion based on observations over the past couple years, SSM and MSC seem to be great for the very best players and a less great for everyone else.

Bottom line is if you're a great player at TPH or SSM, you're going to have lots of opportunities. If you're an average player, you're not. So hopefully you have a great high school experience wherever you end up playing...


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Anonymous
There are certainly lots of hockey academies to choose from all over the country, TPH being one of the bigger ones -- almost like a franchise model. If you're cool with online school and your kid focusing exclusively on hockey, seems like it offers a good program and development for lots of kids, which is great.

But SSM and MSC seem like different animals to me. (Along with the likes of Northwood, South Kent, and Culver.) First off, they're attached to brick and mortar schools. The school experience is in-person and more traditional, offering a more well-rounded high school experience, which is appealing to many families.

And these schools, SSM and MSC in particular, also cater to the very, very top players. Starting at 14U, they recruit the top kids across the US and Canada. They are essentially birth year all-star teams. The top kids are attracted to playing with top kids. I think it's less about "connections" and more about the perceived prestige of being among the "chosen ones." Yeah, that may be a dumb notion, especially when talking about 14 year-old kids, but that's what those schools are selling to kids, and they have the tradition, alumni, and track records to back it up.

It also seems silly to say there is no development at these schools. Of course there is. The coaches are good. The kids are on the ice and working out every day. And they compete against other top kids. How do they not develop?

What's a more interesting debate relative to SSM, MSC and other academies is how good it is for the kids who are in the middle or bottom of the roster? No doubt those kids are solid players, but would they be better served going elsewhere?

Some of the kids will develop and potentially become top players as they get older and move up the ranks of the SSM and MSC teams. But, and this is just an opinion based on observations over the past couple years, SSM and MSC seem to be great for the very best players and a less great for everyone else.

Bottom line is if you're a great player at TPH or SSM, you're going to have lots of opportunities. If you're an average player, you're not. So hopefully you have a great high school experience wherever you end up playing...


I would say this is probably the most accurate post on this thread. I think it’s discredits the amount some of the depth players develop though.
Take MSC 06 team for example, JH, JP are headed to the NTDP, WF and SB are tendered in the USHL. That creates a ton of opportunity for those depth F’s and D to play a bigger role for 16’s, more guys will head to the Jr ranks after next year creating more opportunity for guys at 18’s

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Anonymous
Anonymous
There are certainly lots of hockey academies to choose from all over the country, TPH being one of the bigger ones -- almost like a franchise model. If you\'re cool with online school and your kid focusing exclusively on hockey, seems like it offers a good program and development for lots of kids, which is great.

But SSM and MSC seem like different animals to me. (Along with the likes of Northwood, South Kent, and Culver.) First off, they\'re attached to brick and mortar schools. The school experience is in-person and more traditional, offering a more well-rounded high school experience, which is appealing to many families.

And these schools, SSM and MSC in particular, also cater to the very, very top players. Starting at 14U, they recruit the top kids across the US and Canada. They are essentially birth year all-star teams. The top kids are attracted to playing with top kids. I think it\'s less about \"connections\" and more about the perceived prestige of being among the \"chosen ones.\" Yeah, that may be a dumb notion, especially when talking about 14 year-old kids, but that\'s what those schools are selling to kids, and they have the tradition, alumni, and track records to back it up.

It also seems silly to say there is no development at these schools. Of course there is. The coaches are good. The kids are on the ice and working out every day. And they compete against other top kids. How do they not develop?

What\'s a more interesting debate relative to SSM, MSC and other academies is how good it is for the kids who are in the middle or bottom of the roster? No doubt those kids are solid players, but would they be better served going elsewhere?

Some of the kids will develop and potentially become top players as they get older and move up the ranks of the SSM and MSC teams. But, and this is just an opinion based on observations over the past couple years, SSM and MSC seem to be great for the very best players and a less great for everyone else.

Bottom line is if you\'re a great player at TPH or SSM, you\'re going to have lots of opportunities. If you\'re an average player, you\'re not. So hopefully you have a great high school experience wherever you end up playing...


I would say this is probably the most accurate post on this thread. I think it’s discredits the amount some of the depth players develop though.
Take MSC 06 team for example, JH, JP are headed to the NTDP, WF and SB are tendered in the USHL. That creates a ton of opportunity for those depth F’s and D to play a bigger role for 16’s, more guys will head to the Jr ranks after next year creating more opportunity for guys at 18’s
Agree with most of this as well but for MSC if you are a depth f or d at u16 you probably aren’t being asked back for u18… they don’t stop recruiting and are happy for you to go play elsewhere if they can find someone better.

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Anon
What are the “plenty of other academy’s” where top players at SSM and MSC can “get better development”?
Generals Academy

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Anon
Anon
What are the “plenty of other academy’s” where top players at SSM and MSC can “get better development”?
Generals Academy
:) Yes, because we all know that online schooling is great if you don't want to go to college.

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Did someone really just say Generals Academy ? They might be the worst of all the academies in the country.

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Anon
Did someone really just say Generals Academy ? They might be the worst of all the academies in the country.
easy there Dr. Anon- Generals is known as the Harvard of that part of Attleboro near the highway.

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Ya using Attleboro High School Curriculum, we all know that's a straight line to Harvard.