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Apr 28, 2017 - 9:30AM

Re: USHL Camp Invites ??

anon

Whether its 25% or 33% or 50%, we all know special teams is a big part of the game and if your kids not out there, it also means he's not out there in the last 5 minutes of the third period so it's a bad spot to be in.

So if your kid is not a top 6 or top 4 then its not worth the experience? Your out of your mind!

I think his point is wait until he is ready to compete for time. At 15 or 16 your kid is better off playing Tier 1 or Prep school until ready. If he is older and not playing, than maybe he overshot a little. BCHL, NAHL, NCDC might be a better fit. Does not mean he is not good enough or will not be good enough.

USHL is the gold standard but there are far more future d1 players than there are roster spots in the USHL.

Anon

Apr 28, 2017 - 10:05AM

Re: USHL Camp Invites ??

anon

My kid was invited to an NHL development camp this summer, but I think I'm going to skip it since I don't know that he will be on the PP or PK his first year with the team.

anon

Apr 28, 2017 - 10:14AM

Re: USHL Camp Invites ??

Anon

anon

My kid was invited to an NHL development camp this summer, but I think I'm going to skip it since I don't know that he will be on the PP or PK his first year with the team.

Playing in a three day long ( for free) with an NHL team as a high school or college player, is a lot different than sending your underage kid out to the midwest to sit on the bench during his prime development years.

The kid going to the NHL camp has already chosen his path; College or Jr A's. Nothing to lose, Everything to gain. Has a poor showing, so what. Next season his play will dictate what NHL Dev Camp invites he gets.

One is an " either or" the other is an "add on"

Not sure why I bother with these false narratives you moron's create during your union 15. Get back to sleep slappy.

anon

Apr 28, 2017 - 11:41AM

Re: USHL Camp Invites ??

Easy to be a dink on the dboard but most who have gone through it get it. To each is how and pick your own path but they all have pitfalls. Lots of kids go to USHL too soon and never develop. Now had they waited would they have been better off? Who knows, maybe they just reached their peak and would have faded away no matter what path.

Same goes at other levels. Some kids leave college early and never pan out. Some are told to leave, but stay in and make it to the NHL.

Everyone peaks, just at different times. Don't have numbers but there seems to be more NCAA/Undrafted players now in the NHL than ever. It just highlights the issue of rushing kids when they are still growing and not giving them a chance to pan out.

Bottom line is there are no do-overs.

Anon

Apr 28, 2017 - 2:16PM

Re: USHL Camp Invites ??

anon

As luck would have it, I actually saw those stats, courtesy of the NHL< and posted on Twitter @collegehockey. 314 NCAA alumni in the NHL, 32% of players, the most ever. 85 were undrafted. Now, I believe that includes players that played one game as a call-up.

Would you include 20 year olds that have left college early, like JFK and CW, in your "issue of rushing kids when they are still growing and not giving them a chance to pan out?"

anon

Apr 28, 2017 - 3:31PM

Re: USHL Camp Invites ??

Yes highlighting exceptions and applying their path it to any kid is a great way to prove your point. Bravo Beavis.

If a kid is good enough then the next step becomes more obvious. That happens for very few.

Anon

Apr 28, 2017 - 5:10PM

Re: USHL Camp Invites ??

anon

Really numbnuts? You know JFK and CW are "NHL ready?" Based on what? Their coaches and GMs don't know that, but you do?

My point was that rushing kids at any level can have a negative impact on their chances of success. I chose those two as examples, not exceptions. It's a risk, one that makes sense for some, not for others.

anon

Apr 28, 2017 - 5:30PM

Re: USHL Camp Invites ??

Was there anyone out there saying these guys were anything but automatic for the NHL? Why else would they have left school skippy? Playing college, world juniors is a heck of a lot closer in level and a much more reliable predictor than new england hs or prep to the ushl. If they weren't close, they would have been told to stay.

I'm sure all the scouts following your kid are telling you he is ready for the USHL so you go for it.

Anon

Apr 28, 2017 - 9:34PM

Re: USHL Camp Invites ??

anon

Already said it, I'll say it again. Their coaches and GMs both have said they aren't sure they are ready. But, now that KH and JV have blown the lid off of the NCAA-to-the-team-that-drafted-you-four-years-ago game, the ice has tilted.

If you watched them play, and I did, they both would benefit from some time in the A. The concern is you get buried there for a few years, then all of a sudden you're 24 and a 4A player. So their agents negotiated NHL time into their deals. Whether they're ready or not.

Anon

Apr 29, 2017 - 8:21AM

Re: USHL Camp Invites ??

Yeah ok your right. It really is the same as predicting a HS kids ability in the USHL.

Anon

Apr 29, 2017 - 10:09AM

Re: USHL Camp Invites ??

Anon

Yeah ok your right. It really is the same as predicting a HS kids ability in the USHL.

Man, you're dense. The parallel is, isn't it decreasing the probability of success to rush a kid at any level, in any sport?

You can go backwards too, and look at kids like JE or CW that were playing U16 at a very high level at 13, or NH, who was playing top Prep against 20 year olds as a true 8th grader. It ended up fine, but that's because we know they made it. What about the cases where it didn't end up fine?

It's a risk, a calculated risk, and one that has to be considered for each kid independently, whether at the youth, HS or Pro level.

Did I make the point clearly enough for you now?

anon

Apr 29, 2017 - 5:17PM

Re: USHL Camp Invites ??

Anon

Yeah ok your right. It really is the same as predicting a HS kids ability in the USHL.

Wow I bet your nickname as a kid was wingnut and you could never understand why.

Pretty sure none of those guys went into the next level based upon an email invitation their dip**** dad got but you go for it. I'm sure the email you got was meant differently than the 100's of others sent out.

Anon

Apr 28, 2017 - 12:33PM

Re: USHL Camp Invites ??

anon

Anon

anon

My kid was invited to an NHL development camp this summer, but I think I'm going to skip it since I don't know that he will be on the PP or PK his first year with the team.

Lighten up, Francis. It's a beautiful Friday in May.

And the OP didn't ask if he should send his kid for the season. He asked if he should attend a camp. It's a long way between attending a camp and actually sending your kid to Omaha. Which is why the parallels you are drawing are not apt.

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