My experience is, at least for defensemen is you should contact the team of where you & the kid want to end-up. Or have your F.S. coach contact them if he's connected. Forwards are pretty easy, does the kid average need a point a game and is his +/- respectable. Defensemen it's a lot more subjective. Many who have similar numbers can have totally different skill sets and knowledge of the game so they need to be watched. And there certainly they will come out to watch without an invite if you have the right last name. :stuck_out_tongue_closed_eyes:

No nhl agent establishes a relationship with a player/family and charges money. Especially a 'nominial' amount. What would the point of that be? The $250 wouldn't be worth the headaches. Have fun on your kids NCAA clearninghouse when you have to answer "yes" to having a formal relationship with an agent where money was exchanged. Or is it that your lying. C'mon admit it. I know your lying. Anyone on here who has an NHL agent as an advisor knows your lying. Now everyone on here knows your lying.

It's the opposite, Sherlock. NCAA requires that an advisor be comped for their services, they just don't say how much. If you were right, all the fee-for-services advisors out there would constitute NCAA violations. And we know that isn't true. Don't we?

If your advisor spends one hour performing services on your kid's behalf and you don't pay him one red cent, there's a risk of a violation. Our advisor's legal advice based on the facts at the time was that the nominal payment provides an insurance policy. I can't speak for other agencies or even the transactons our agency has entered into in the last three years, but those were the facts at the time we began our relationship.

So don't call me a ******* liar. You. Weren't. There.

Ok so you have the only guy who thinks a "nominal fee" for years of services is an "insurance policy" when there is no need for this and the NCAA has said as much. Keep the story going though.

No, your wrong, and if your paying, your being hosed, but then again, if your kid was good enough, you wouldn't be paying anyhow. The previous poster is correct.

Just an FYI:

From UMASS student athlete questionnaire:
NCAA Rules DO allow you to have a “family advisor.”
The rules allow a student-athlete to have an advisor to review a prospective contract provided that the athlete pays
the advisor the going rate for the advisor’s services and as long as the advisor does not participate in negotiations on
the athlete’s behalf with the professional team.

In addition, in January of 2018 the NCAA changed the rules to allow players to sign with agents, similar to what is done with baseball but the representation ends after enrollement in school.

https://www.sbnation.com/2018/1/20/16911646/ncaa-rules-agents-hockey-baseball-football-basketball

From the NCAA Guidelines:
Finally, it is important to note that in order to maintain your eligibility at the NCAA school, if you receive assistance from an advisor, you will be required to pay that advisor at his or her normal rate for such services

I also have some property in FL to sell you

Leave the guy alone. Clearly he’s the only one who has figured it out.

Haven't figured anything out. I'm not the one calling anyone a liar. Just relating to people that don't have an advisor - which is the question I originally answered that started all of this - what my personal experience has been.

What I also can't figure out is the mentality of people that would tell someone whose experience is different than theirs they they are "wrong." My guess is these are the same wing nuts that are best avoided at the rink, because they know everything.

I especially love the guy that said I was getting "hosed." Three years of extremely helpful advice, access to the contacts of an NHL certified agent that represents many, many professional players, including several Bruins, with as many as six more years to go, for the price of a stick. Yeah, I'm feeling really taken advantage of.

Legal advice is funny. Very smart lawyers will interpret the same rules very differently, Some are conservative, some are aggressive. I didn't tell the guy how his company should do business. I have zero problem with the relationship we have. I don't care if I'm the only one he charged, ever. It was how they were interpreting the rules at the time. I'm sure all of you that know better would have told the guy he was "wrong" when he asked to represent your kid.

Paying for helpful advice doesn't make your kid better.

Anyone know the difference between club-d3-d1? Is there a big difference or are kids basically interchangable based on who you know?

Yes there is a difference, sometimes the differences are glaring other times they are much more subtle but there is usually a difference in the caliber of players. Watch a game for UMASS Boston then watch say Minnesota State vs. Minnesota Duluth and you will realize there is a difference, you just might not be able to really articulate it well.

As for club, it's all over the place. Large schools with a solid hockey tradition can have very good club teams while at smaller schools the club teams would lose to many Varsity high school hockey programs.

Sounds confusing. Should I hire someone to help advise me and my son? Also I never played but it just so happens my last name is Messier and I named my kid Mark. Will that help at all?

Make sure you pay the Advisor $250