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Re: I Thought The NCDC Was The Best?

Anon
Where is the NCDC?

Looking at last 12 months, the top sources of DI players per @collegehockey are:

1. USHL 192 (players)
2. NAHL 154
3. BCHL 104
4. NE Prep 94
5. AJHL 48
6. MN HS 43
7. NTDP 33
8. OJHL 29
9. IND HS/Prep 26
10. CCHL 25
#4 is incorrect, HS/Prep is further down the list as shown. This data is from this past years entering Freshmen class. don't know where you got the #4 info??

Re: I Thought The NCDC Was The Best?

I saw this data cited somewhere else today, tried to find it on their website and on Twitter.

I assume they are using the league the individual committing in the past year last played in. So, it makes sense that it's going to be the higher levels. It also means it may include some players that played in the NCDC in 2018/19 but committed before the season started.

I don't think anyone ever said NCDC was "the best." It's an alternative. A rung on the ladder. I don't think it's surprising they had less than 25 commits in the last 12 months. it doesn't mean that players that actually play D-I in a few years won't have NCDC on their resumes.

Not saying it's attractive to us. The teams have their warts. They all do. That doesn't mean it's a bad choice, versus other choices a particular family may have.

Re: I Thought The NCDC Was The Best?

It was tweeted out by AMHockey, some real good info on the pages tweeted out.

Re: I Thought The NCDC Was The Best?

Anon
I saw this data cited somewhere else today, tried to find it on their website and on Twitter.

I assume they are using the league the individual committing in the past year last played in. So, it makes sense that it's going to be the higher levels. It also means it may include some players that played in the NCDC in 2018/19 but committed before the season started.

I don't think anyone ever said NCDC was "the best." It's an alternative. A rung on the ladder. I don't think it's surprising they had less than 25 commits in the last 12 months. it doesn't mean that players that actually play D-I in a few years won't have NCDC on their resumes.

Not saying it's attractive to us. The teams have their warts. They all do. That doesn't mean it's a bad choice, versus other choices a particular family may have.
Actually if you look at the NCDC website (USPHL), they do say they are the best.

Re: I Thought The NCDC Was The Best?

Yup:

"BEST COACHING. BEST COMPETITION. BEST LEAGUE"

Re: I Thought The NCDC Was The Best?

Can’t be that bad it looks like the Generals drafted like 6 kids from the NCDC.

Re: I Thought The NCDC Was The Best?

Anon
Can’t be that bad it looks like the Generals drafted like 6 kids from the NCDC.
How can that be? I thought the NCDC was better than the NAHL? They say it on their website, Best Coaching, Best League? It's a Tier 3 stepping stone, no more, no less.

Re: I Thought The NCDC Was The Best?

Anon
Anon
Can’t be that bad it looks like the Generals drafted like 6 kids from the NCDC.
How can that be? I thought the NCDC was better than the NAHL? They say it on their website, Best Coaching, Best League? It's a Tier 3 stepping stone, no more, no less.
Geez, enough with the obsession with the marketing tag line. I'm sure they don't think they are better than the NHL.

Re: I Thought The NCDC Was The Best?

Anon
Can’t be that bad it looks like the Generals drafted like 6 kids from the NCDC.
+1 I thought the same thing.

Re: I Thought The NCDC Was The Best?

Tier III, no USA Hockey affiliation, and funded by youth hockey. What a model

Re: I Thought The NCDC Was The Best?

Anon
Tier III, no USA Hockey affiliation, and funded by youth hockey. What a model
Then don't have your kid play.

No tuition, good local option so your kid can continue his Northeast education, and you're getting exposure to college programs.

USA Hockey affiliation means zero, and who cares who it's funded by? You know taxpayers fund NCAA athletic scholarships, right? Do you care, when your kid is the recipient?

Is it the right development option for every kid? No.

Now, if you said they are killing the league by the way they complete the rosters, we can have a meaningful discussion.

Re: I Thought The NCDC Was The Best?

Anon
Anon
Tier III, no USA Hockey affiliation, and funded by youth hockey. What a model
Then don't have your kid play.

No tuition, good local option so your kid can continue his Northeast education, and you're getting exposure to college programs.

USA Hockey affiliation means zero, and who cares who it's funded by? You know taxpayers fund NCAA athletic scholarships, right? Do you care, when your kid is the recipient?

Is it the right development option for every kid? No.

Now, if you said they are killing the league by the way they complete the rosters, we can have a meaningful discussion.
As I look at last years rosters, how/why do these teams have 35-40-50 players on rosters?

Re: I Thought The NCDC Was The Best?

Welcome to junior hockey. Kids get cut, traded and even quit. Check out any tuition free league and you will see the same thing.

Re: I Thought The NCDC Was The Best?

anon
Anon
Anon
Tier III, no USA Hockey affiliation, and funded by youth hockey. What a model
Then don\'t have your kid play.

No tuition, good local option so your kid can continue his Northeast education, and you\'re getting exposure to college programs.

USA Hockey affiliation means zero, and who cares who it\'s funded by? You know taxpayers fund NCAA athletic scholarships, right? Do you care, when your kid is the recipient?

Is it the right development option for every kid? No.

Now, if you said they are killing the league by the way they complete the rosters, we can have a meaningful discussion.
As I look at last years rosters, how/why do these teams have 35-40-50 players on rosters?
Pretty typical for juniors.

Re: I Thought The NCDC Was The Best?

Anon
anon
Anon
Anon
Tier III, no USA Hockey affiliation, and funded by youth hockey. What a model
Then don\\\'t have your kid play.

No tuition, good local option so your kid can continue his Northeast education, and you\\\'re getting exposure to college programs.

USA Hockey affiliation means zero, and who cares who it\\\'s funded by? You know taxpayers fund NCAA athletic scholarships, right? Do you care, when your kid is the recipient?

Is it the right development option for every kid? No.

Now, if you said they are killing the league by the way they complete the rosters, we can have a meaningful discussion.
As I look at last years rosters, how/why do these teams have 35-40-50 players on rosters?
Pretty typical for juniors.
I think, I may be wrong, but I think alot of the players who didnt play many NCDC games also were rostered on U18, Premier, etc..So they show on both rosters?

Re: I Thought The NCDC Was The Best?

anon
Anon
anon
Anon
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Tier III, no USA Hockey affiliation, and funded by youth hockey. What a model
Then don\\\\\\\'t have your kid play.

No tuition, good local option so your kid can continue his Northeast education, and you\\\\\\\'re getting exposure to college programs.

USA Hockey affiliation means zero, and who cares who it\\\\\\\'s funded by? You know taxpayers fund NCAA athletic scholarships, right? Do you care, when your kid is the recipient?

Is it the right development option for every kid? No.

Now, if you said they are killing the league by the way they complete the rosters, we can have a meaningful discussion.
As I look at last years rosters, how/why do these teams have 35-40-50 players on rosters?
Pretty typical for juniors.
I think, I may be wrong, but I think alot of the players who didnt play many NCDC games also were rostered on U18, Premier, etc..So they show on both rosters?
You have to be rostered for any team you are active on, even if for one game that you didn't dress.

Premier call-ups would only be one reason.

Re: I Thought The NCDC Was The Best?

Anon
Anon
Tier III, no USA Hockey affiliation, and funded by youth hockey. What a model
Then don't have your kid play.

No tuition, good local option so your kid can continue his Northeast education, and you're getting exposure to college programs.

USA Hockey affiliation means zero, and who cares who it's funded by? You know taxpayers fund NCAA athletic scholarships, right? Do you care, when your kid is the recipient?

Is it the right development option for every kid? No.

Now, if you said they are killing the league by the way they complete the rosters, we can have a meaningful discussion.
Don't have my kid play? Ha! Thanks anyhow but his route was Prep/USHL and now DI, but thanks for funding his ride though.

Re: I Thought The NCDC Was The Best?

Anon
Anon
Anon
Tier III, no USA Hockey affiliation, and funded by youth hockey. What a model
Then don\'t have your kid play.

No tuition, good local option so your kid can continue his Northeast education, and you\'re getting exposure to college programs.

USA Hockey affiliation means zero, and who cares who it\'s funded by? You know taxpayers fund NCAA athletic scholarships, right? Do you care, when your kid is the recipient?

Is it the right development option for every kid? No.

Now, if you said they are killing the league by the way they complete the rosters, we can have a meaningful discussion.
Don't have my kid play? Ha! Thanks anyhow but his route was Prep/USHL and now DI, but thanks for funding his ride though.
Then why do you care, if it doesn't affect him?

Is that your thing, you dump on other player's experiences because your kid is oh, such a stud?

My kid is skipping NCDC, too, not for any of the bulls#it reasons you cited, by the way, but that doesn't mean it isn't a good alternative.

I hope your kid takes after his mother, 'cause you're the family douchebag.

Re: I Thought The NCDC Was The Best?

Anon
Anon
Anon
Anon
Tier III, no USA Hockey affiliation, and funded by youth hockey. What a model
Then don\\'t have your kid play.

No tuition, good local option so your kid can continue his Northeast education, and you\\'re getting exposure to college programs.

USA Hockey affiliation means zero, and who cares who it\\'s funded by? You know taxpayers fund NCAA athletic scholarships, right? Do you care, when your kid is the recipient?

Is it the right development option for every kid? No.

Now, if you said they are killing the league by the way they complete the rosters, we can have a meaningful discussion.
Don't have my kid play? Ha! Thanks anyhow but his route was Prep/USHL and now DI, but thanks for funding his ride though.
Then why do you care, if it doesn't affect him?

Is that your thing, you dump on other player's experiences because your kid is oh, such a stud?

My kid is skipping NCDC, too, not for any of the bulls#it reasons you cited, by the way, but that doesn't mean it isn't a good alternative.

I hope your kid takes after his mother, 'cause you're the family douchebag.
Thanks again for your donation, both in tax money and your cable bill.

Re: I Thought The NCDC Was The Best?

Somebody claims their kid plays D1 hockey but doesn't understand how scholarships are funded. Taxpayers do not fund D1 athletic departments. College athletic departments fund their scholarships through donations, endowments, revenue from TV, ticket sales, concessions, corporate sponsorship, and other revenue sources. Now, one of those revenue sources can be direct institutional support which come in the form of student activity fees, so one could claim the school is paying for athletics, but it is a stretch to say taxpayer funds from the state house go directly to athletics.

What people need to understand about college athletics is that it is, for many, the window through which they perceive the school. Think of it as one of the marketing arms of the institution. It's no coincidence that after a major D1 school exhibits athletic success like, say, a program wins a football championship, like a Clemson or Alabama, that the school experiences a spike in applications to the university. Athletic success increases the profile of the school and leads to increased applications and enrollment. Viewed that way, direct institutional support can be justified if it is part of a comprehensive plan to increase the profile of the school.

Re: I Thought The NCDC Was The Best?

Anon
Somebody claims their kid plays D1 hockey but doesn't understand how scholarships are funded. Taxpayers do not fund D1 athletic departments. College athletic departments fund their scholarships through donations, endowments, revenue from TV, ticket sales, concessions, corporate sponsorship, and other revenue sources. Now, one of those revenue sources can be direct institutional support which come in the form of student activity fees, so one could claim the school is paying for athletics, but it is a stretch to say taxpayer funds from the state house go directly to athletics.

What people need to understand about college athletics is that it is, for many, the window through which they perceive the school. Think of it as one of the marketing arms of the institution. It's no coincidence that after a major D1 school exhibits athletic success like, say, a program wins a football championship, like a Clemson or Alabama, that the school experiences a spike in applications to the university. Athletic success increases the profile of the school and leads to increased applications and enrollment. Viewed that way, direct institutional support can be justified if it is part of a comprehensive plan to increase the profile of the school.
The person claiming that DI scholarships was funded by tax money was the other guy