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That would require having a moral compass.
Because they developed them of course...
Let me guess, the Lovell JV program or Cyclones?
The worst are the Twitter congrats from programs where the kid has decided to play college club hockey. No mention that the kid just spent two years of his life and $15k to make a team he could have walked onto after his senior year of high school. :grin:
Not sure why a twitter congrats to anyone for anything from anyone would bother somebody but whatever, some people need something to be upset about.
Also, post above mentions level of NC state club. Kid just applied to NC State and UNC. Would like to play club at either. Does last poster know something about these programs he can tell me. I know nothing other than that they exist. Could a bit better than average prep kid walk on to one of these teams? Is D2 down south that good?
Enough with the comparisons of D3 Hockey to Club Hockey. I recently attended a D3 (Babson v. St. Anselm) game and the pace was torrid. The hands and edges were smooth and effortless. Transitions from the D zone through the neutral zone and into the Offensive zone happened with 2-3 passes and in less than 3 seconds. I could not identify any "weak links" nor could I identify the standouts on either team. All players were highly skilled in all phases of hockey.
These athletes are committed to their respective programs year round. They have summer workouts, monitored off ice training within the season, film sessions etc. They are on the ice under the jurisdiction of a professional coaching staff six days a week once the season starts. The technology available to the coaches and subsequently the players is way beyond that of NC State etc. All these ancillary assets far surpass those of a D1 Club team and therefore they make the program better and the level higher. Some of those club teams might have a few players who can play at Fitchburg State or higher but the majority of the club rosters are athletes who did not see a path to D3 hockey.
Today's D3 athlete, regardless of the sport, is most likely committed to their sport year round. For example, a D3 lax player will show up on campus in late Aug and by early September they are practicing 2-3 times per week and playing games or in jamborees multiple times per month through October. They will have Nov/Dec officially off but as soon as they return from Christmas Break they are fully immersed into their season. Expect the same for baseball, soccer etc.
I've done my homework. ASU plays Central Oklahoma and loses. Are you telling me there are "D1 commits" at ASU who decided to decline a "D1 offer," which most likely came with a financial incentive (partial scholarship etc.) to play club? You know not what you speak of. Maybe your kid did not get the offer from Westfield and your trying to justify his status on the Central Connecticut State Club Hockey team. A "D1" commit that declined the offer to play NCAA varsity hockey for club is not going to develop his game at the pace of a D3 athlete under the structure and guidance of an NCAA program. There might be rare examples of an athlete who many felt could play "D1" but wanted to get his life going right after high school.
You are citing the record of the ASU VARSITY team. Our discussion is centered on Club Hockey vs. D3.
The discussion is not about the academic credentials of the schools mentioned. This ongoing argument is about the fools who think some club teams are more competitive on the ice than some D3 schools. If it's an academic discussion than hockey should not be part of the decision. I don't think I need to say choose rigor and reputation over athletics.
You sidetracked your original point. After your offspring gets a year or two at Notre Dame under his belt have him teach you how to debate and properly provide counterpoints. Try defending your original argument.
"Does last poster know something about these programs he can tell me. I know nothing other than that they exist. Could a bit better than average prep kid walk on to one of these teams? Is D2 down south that good?"
The answer to your question is yes. A better than average prep or D-I high school kid can walk onto these teams. At some point they might post something on their web page or Facebook group and list their 'tryouts.' A good player from New England should have no problem. D2 Club isn't all that serious. Kids like to win and have fun but they only skate a couple times a week.
This Club Hockey guy is a legit madman, but I can't hate on him. Guy shows hustle and effort even when faced with a losing argument. He is clearly headed to an insane asylum but god**** he is going down swinging.
Lets look at the facts:
1. He has a kid playing Club/Rec hockey in the south
2. He is on the dboard all day trying to promote club hockey and belittle DIII hockey
3. He is obsessed with making Club/Rec college hockey relevant and convincing people it is at or a step below DI and a step above DII
With those facts being undeniable, it is clear the following is true:
1. He spent a minimum of $3.5k a year x 10 years = $35,000 (Mite through midget) on youth hockey and then either public high school or prep (another $200k)
2. After said spend the boy received Zero D1 offers and Zero DIII interest.
3. His only option was to play Club/Rec hockey for 4 years at a party school in the south (god bless him)
3. The financial and familial investment have yielded no NCAA return on investment.
4. In hindsight he feels like a total buffoon and will spend as much time as necessary to belittle others experiences.
"club teams at BC, UMass, Michigan, Wisconsin, Minnesota, Denver would walk all over most NE D3 programs."
My kid plays on one of those teams. Lots of pluses. He really enjoys it, perfect blend of school/sports for him, great bunch of guys, better level than he thought it would be..... but he will be first to tell you they would not compete with any NESCAC, Babson.... type team. Maybe they could hang with some of the lowest end D3's
There is nothing wrong with that
If a recent commit came to my practice as a squirt should I go on Twitter and congratulate him? Did I have an impact on his development?
Of course you had an impact. A tremendous one. He skated at that practice and realized that he had no future or prospect of development if he played with you and moved on. You probably did more for that kid than you realize. So thanks and congrats to you for being a bad coach !
BA land awfully quiet recently on commits and signing of NLI’s....