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Re: Roster Cuts This week

People have to stop, think, and keep repeating this to find some serenity -
Unless you are in the 2% tagged to be a professional player and getting paid to play, it does not matter one bit, other than ego and bragging, what level you play in college.
You will be working a job when you graduate and paying to play hockey like everyone else.
Weekly mens league games all over North America are filled with former D1, D3, ACHA, and even High School players, all on the same ice and none of them are getting paid.
When you stop chasing you can start enjoying.




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anon
People have to stop, think, and keep repeating this to find some serenity -
Unless you are in the 2% tagged to be a professional player and getting paid to play, it does not matter one bit, other than ego and bragging, what level you play in college.
You will be working a job when you graduate and paying to play hockey like everyone else.
Weekly mens league games all over North America are filled with former D1, D3, ACHA, and even High School players, all on the same ice and none of them are getting paid.
When you stop chasing you can start enjoying.




Then this message needs to passed down to JR coaches and organizations. If it doesn't matter then why pick a team and then cut them? I agree with you but it’s not reality.

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Agree 100%. I would add that playing a sport in is hard, very time consuming and tiring.

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So, should I look into what the early termination terms are on the lease that we just signed if our kid was a healthy scratch in the first 2 games? Can’t see this working out. Hearing kids coming in for Monday practice. Heck, he can’t crack the lineup now. Should have taken that spot in college.

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Rumor has it Kings, BA, Bruins all cutting the prep players they tendered. Never sign a tender, those kids are forced to be done with hockey, nowhere to go.

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Anon
Rumor has it Kings, BA, Bruins all cutting the prep players they tendered. Never sign a tender, those kids are forced to be done with hockey, nowhere to go.
Slow your role 12:42.. we 1 week in and you already having good hockey players cut from NCDC teams..this ain’t the NAHL, you have to take what you can get and those teams got some solid prep players along with older players, they will all be fine and playing, let’s see what it looks like in November.

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This is 100% true. Many 03 prep players scratched, cut or landed on premier teams. My advice having been through it, be realistic. If you are a average prep player at a good hockey school premier / ehl is where you should be. If you were a point per game prep player, NCDC. Anything below this good luck. Anything above it you may break a NAHL / USHL lineup at some point.

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anon
This is 100% true. Many 03 prep players scratched, cut or landed on premier teams. My advice having been through it, be realistic. If you are a average prep player at a good hockey school premier / ehl is where you should be. If you were a point per game prep player, NCDC. Anything below this good luck. Anything above it you may break a NAHL / USHL lineup at some point.
03 prep players not scratched, just about all played

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Anon
anon
This is 100% true. Many 03 prep players scratched, cut or landed on premier teams. My advice having been through it, be realistic. If you are a average prep player at a good hockey school premier / ehl is where you should be. If you were a point per game prep player, NCDC. Anything below this good luck. Anything above it you may break a NAHL / USHL lineup at some point.
03 prep players not scratched, just about all played
Just not true. Do some research. Many scratched from NCDC first games, many cut from NCDC teams, some on premier.

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anon
Anon
anon
This is 100% true. Many 03 prep players scratched, cut or landed on premier teams. My advice having been through it, be realistic. If you are a average prep player at a good hockey school premier / ehl is where you should be. If you were a point per game prep player, NCDC. Anything below this good luck. Anything above it you may break a NAHL / USHL lineup at some point.
03 prep players not scratched, just about all played
Just not true. Do some research. Many scratched from NCDC first games, many cut from NCDC teams, some on premier.
Who cares? Seriously. Play premier, go to MASCAC school and continue playing. Earn 1/2 NCDC games this year and be a full timer next season, or play wherever and go play club if you can.. or quit, go to college, and bash the organization so others don’t make the same mistake.

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Anon
So, should I look into what the early termination terms are on the lease that we just signed if our kid was a healthy scratch in the first 2 games? Can’t see this working out. Hearing kids coming in for Monday practice. Heck, he can’t crack the lineup now. Should have taken that spot in college.
Any org that lets you go as far as getting a lease and then scratching or cutting the player should get the s hit beat of them. I get it, it’s a business, but they are the ones that went after the kid months ago and all of sudden don’t like him? Karma is a b itch and I hope they or their kids get it 10 fold! My kid is a senior and has thought about playing Jrs but these stories settle that argument quickly.

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I'm sorry, but if your an 03', and you can't break into a NCDC lineup, you suck. Stop chasing the D1 dream, and hope Salem St. has room for you on their roster when you age out.

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Wait, so do you guys just troll every roster every game? What if the kid is hurt? Do you just assume he's cut? Covid has already hit a few teams so rosters are a mess right now, that's gonna make your head explode. Mind your business.

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Anon
I'm sorry, but if your an 03', and you can't break into a NCDC lineup, you suck. Stop chasing the D1 dream, and hope Salem St. has room for you on their roster when you age out.
Meh, depends on the team you are trying to make, what's your or your advisors relationship with the organization, etc..95% of the players in that league are interchangeable. Some 03's just don't have the juice.

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Anon
I'm sorry, but if your an 03', and you can't break into a NCDC lineup, you suck. Stop chasing the D1 dream, and hope Salem St. has room for you on their roster when you age out.
Ignorant comment. Kids in NCDC shouldn't be chasing D1 at this point. That's for CHL, NAHL, USHL.

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anon
Anon
I\'m sorry, but if your an 03\', and you can\'t break into a NCDC lineup, you suck. Stop chasing the D1 dream, and hope Salem St. has room for you on their roster when you age out.
Ignorant comment. Kids in NCDC shouldn't be chasing D1 at this point. That's for CHL, NAHL, USHL.
Ncdc has plenty of future d1 kids without a doubt. To say that there aren’t is pretty ignorant. I’d venture to say that each team has 2 or 3 that are heading in that direction.

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No slam but NCDC teams have one or two players seriously getting D1 looks and the rest of that 50 man rotating roster goes D3 or even ACHA if they've had enough. Fact.
So get off your high horse and realize that even D3 Salem State won't take kids who "suck". You'll see.

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anon
No slam but NCDC teams have one or two players seriously getting D1 looks and the rest of that 50 man rotating roster goes D3 or even ACHA if they've had enough. Fact.
So get off your high horse and realize that even D3 Salem State won't take kids who "suck". You'll see.
There is a reason it has been referred to as

NCD3 for years.

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Anon
anon
No slam but NCDC teams have one or two players seriously getting D1 looks and the rest of that 50 man rotating roster goes D3 or even ACHA if they've had enough. Fact.
So get off your high horse and realize that even D3 Salem State won't take kids who "suck". You'll see.
There is a reason it has been referred to as

NCD3 for years.
Us players all know this and are OK with it, we are playing free hockey, hanging with the boys, and getting ready for D3 college. You keyboard warriors think your slamming us for playing here, but we love it. Bet.

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Anon
Anon
anon
No slam but NCDC teams have one or two players seriously getting D1 looks and the rest of that 50 man rotating roster goes D3 or even ACHA if they\'ve had enough. Fact.
So get off your high horse and realize that even D3 Salem State won\'t take kids who \"suck\". You\'ll see.
There is a reason it has been referred to as

NCD3 for years.
Us players all know this and are OK with it, we are playing free hockey, hanging with the boys, and getting ready for D3 college. You keyboard warriors think your slamming us for playing here, but we love it. Bet.
Good answer. I'd be happy if my son were to get into a good D3 school someday as well. Hockey isn't everything people and it's supposed to be fun.

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Not jut NCDC, even the NAHL most players move on to D3.
Only the USHL is the majority D1 factory.

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Right or wrong (I think wrong), the "radar" seems to be created at age 14 and 15 - right before the OHL and Phase I USHL draft. Kids that have the size and skill at that age are drafted and given an upper hand in training, experience and exposure. These are the kids most likely to get D1 offers at the top schools.

Kids left off that bandwagon, either because they were not physically mature or not quite there yet, are on the outside looking in. D1 spots are still available to them, but they have a longer, harder road. They generally must work their way into the NAHL or the BCHL, play regularly and perform well to get D1 offers. Still, these kids are usually not offered at the big-time programs like Boston College, Michigan, Minnesota, Wisconsin, etc.

What I find interesting is that many of the kids who were on the radar and drafted into the USHL at 15 flame out. The late bloomers who have to keep working hard - particularly the ones who grow late -- often surpass the ones who, at 5'11", seemed huge as 15 year-olds but were done growing.

That said, for all but the very, very top players who get drafted in the first five rounds of the NHL draft (and a few late-bloomer exceptions), its all just about playing an extra 4 years in college, two of which are often spent on the bench. And those 4 years end quickly.

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Great post and very true. The irony being that USA Hockey does not practice what they preach. They talk about playing other sports, developing as an athlete, late bloomers, when competition should start (the LTAD model), putting down the hockey stick for the summer, etc.

Then proceed to hold all their festivals and camps over the summer and instigate this rat race where if a kid isn't "chosen" by 15 in the USHL it is an uphill climb and those players that were "chosen" will get chance after chance to fail their way out. Once you are labeled a certain caliber of player (Tier 1, 2, or 3) it gets tough to shake that label.

As for my oldest, he's in his final year of juniors and playing in the USPHL Premier, a returning captain from last season. These last two years have been the best years of hockey in his career. This coming off his first year of juniors where he was lied to, healthy scratched, bounced around positions, and finally traded in the rat race to climb up the levels many of you described in prior posts. He now loves playing hockey again, his team, his entire situation, and doesn't care that it is "Tier 3" because he's happy playing hockey and he's at least talking to D3 and ACHA D1 schools so those opportunities to play 4 more years of competitive hockey might be there for him.

Junior hockey is hard. I don't care if it's Tier 1, 2, or 3, it's a grind and it is hard. If you can experience success as a player at any of these levels, even Tier 3, you've had a better hockey career than 97% of players in your birth year when you first started the game 15 years ago.

NCAA D1 is a pipe dream for 99% of players. Once you understand that, embrace your path, and focus on being the best hockey player you can in the best opportunity you can find so that you can ENJOY playing hockey you will be much better off.

Re: Roster Cuts This week

Lots of good 03s on rosters, but everyone has to wait their turn. The Best goalie in Prep last year hs not seen a puck yet. It’s ok, they all just have to wait their turn.

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Lots of new faces in the supplemental locker room today. This should not be allowed to happen. How did the guy with the lease make out? Hope he has an escape clause or perhaps he can sublease it to his son’s replacement. Gheeeez

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Not trying to be a jerk, but I don't agree with the "bide your time" approach for an '03. If your son isn't playing as an '03, I recommend you work hard to find a place where he will play.

If your goal is to get your boy noticed, he won't get noticed on the bench and its unusual for colleges to start looking at someone during their age-out year (unless the kid is just absolutely tearing it up). If your son's goal is not to get noticed by NCAA scouts and just wants to have fun playing hockey during a "gap year", then it pretty much goes without saying that he should find a team where he will play. It isn't much fun being scratched every weekend, or working your *** off to get two shifts a period.

So, if he isn't playing by now, or by mid-October at the latest, time to find another team. There are like a gazillion junior leagues. If your kid isn't playing in the NAHL, look at AJHL, SJHL or NCDC teams. If your kid isn't making it there, look at one of the many Ontario leagues or the Manitoba league. If an '03 can't get significant ice time in one of those leagues, it's time to face reality - NCAA hockey isn't going to happen for him (indeed, NCAA hockey isn't assured for NAHL players) and he should either start college and play ACHA or find a NA3 or USPHL premiere team where he will play and have fun during a "gap year."

I would add that sitting the bench on one team does not always mean your career is done. Different coaches see things differently, or have different assets in the pipeline. Four quick stories of '03 players I know. Player 1 tendered with a top NAHL team. They kept saying they loved his game, but he sat, sat and sat until he finally just quit. Last year he tore it up with a different NAHL team and committed to a strong D1 team. Player 2 was drafted by a team in the NAHL South. Made it though camp but was then told he wouldn't play much. He demanded a trade, got traded and scored a ton of goals for a different NAHL team. He is now playing USHL. Player 3 played for a notoriously psyco coach, basically got replaced by two USHL cuts, stopped playing and then left the team. He is now a key player on a different NAHL team. Player 4 got cut from a NAHL team last year, dropped down to play 18U for the balance of the year, and is now playing top minutes for a different NAHL team.


That said, I can tell you several horror stories about players who decided to stick with their team despite barely playing and never got off the snide. They had horrible experiences, never got a chance to improve, never got seen and spent their last two years looking for the fleeting chance to be noticed.


Again, not trying to be a jerk, but riding the bench the year before age out is hockey death. He needs to play to improve, to be seen and to have fun.

And don't get me wrong. I played ACHA and think it was a great decision because it allowed me to focus more on school with a real major, have fun and do some other activities.

Re: Roster Cuts This week

Anon
Not trying to be a jerk, but I don\\\\\\\'t agree with the \\\\\\\"bide your time\\\\\\\" approach for an \\\\\\\'03. If your son isn\\\\\\\'t playing as an \\\\\\\'03, I recommend you work hard to find a place where he will play.

If your goal is to get your boy noticed, he won\\\\\\\'t get noticed on the bench and its unusual for colleges to start looking at someone during their age-out year (unless the kid is just absolutely tearing it up). If your son\\\\\\\'s goal is not to get noticed by NCAA scouts and just wants to have fun playing hockey during a \\\\\\\"gap year\\\\\\\", then it pretty much goes without saying that he should find a team where he will play. It isn\\\\\\\'t much fun being scratched every weekend, or working your *** off to get two shifts a period.

So, if he isn\\\\\\\'t playing by now, or by mid-October at the latest, time to find another team. There are like a gazillion junior leagues. If your kid isn\\\\\\\'t playing in the NAHL, look at AJHL, SJHL or NCDC teams. If your kid isn\\\\\\\'t making it there, look at one of the many Ontario leagues or the Manitoba league. If an \\\\\\\'03 can\\\\\\\'t get significant ice time in one of those leagues, it\\\\\\\'s time to face reality - NCAA hockey isn\\\\\\\'t going to happen for him (indeed, NCAA hockey isn\\\\\\\'t assured for NAHL players) and he should either start college and play ACHA or find a NA3 or USPHL premiere team where he will play and have fun during a \\\\\\\"gap year.\\\\\\\"

I would add that sitting the bench on one team does not always mean your career is done. Different coaches see things differently, or have different assets in the pipeline. Four quick stories of \\\\\\\'03 players I know. Player 1 tendered with a top NAHL team. They kept saying they loved his game, but he sat, sat and sat until he finally just quit. Last year he tore it up with a different NAHL team and committed to a strong D1 team. Player 2 was drafted by a team in the NAHL South. Made it though camp but was then told he wouldn\\\\\\\'t play much. He demanded a trade, got traded and scored a ton of goals for a different NAHL team. He is now playing USHL. Player 3 played for a notoriously psyco coach, basically got replaced by two USHL cuts, stopped playing and then left the team. He is now a key player on a different NAHL team. Player 4 got cut from a NAHL team last year, dropped down to play 18U for the balance of the year, and is now playing top minutes for a different NAHL team.


That said, I can tell you several horror stories about players who decided to stick with their team despite barely playing and never got off the snide. They had horrible experiences, never got a chance to improve, never got seen and spent their last two years looking for the fleeting chance to be noticed.


Again, not trying to be a jerk, but riding the bench the year before age out is hockey death. He needs to play to improve, to be seen and to have fun.

And don\\\\\\\'t get me wrong. I played ACHA and think it was a great decision because it allowed me to focus more on school with a real major, have fun and do some other activities.
Agree with most of your post but disagree with this. Most NCAA D3 schools don't even start looking at players seriously until their age out year.

Agree that players need to find a place to play, even if it means dropping down a level. You have 2-3 years of playing Juniors and then it is gone forever. Enjoy playing competitive hockey while you can and if it leads to something more, great, if not then move on in life knowing you had the best career you could.

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What have you done lately? Kids need to get on the ice to show they can play at the next level. Better off getting reps in premier than sitting. IMO

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Anon
anon
No slam but NCDC teams have one or two players seriously getting D1 looks and the rest of that 50 man rotating roster goes D3 or even ACHA if they've had enough. Fact.
So get off your high horse and realize that even D3 Salem State won't take kids who "suck". You'll see.
There is a reason it has been referred to as

NCD3 for years.
NCDC has 5 D1 Commits total in the league.

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Who the **** do you think you are? Pls-for you to say that these players suck….what level did you play at that would qualify you to say that? You really are the worst of the worst

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unfortunately, their are lots of teams and very few have a code of ethics, and even fewer have good coaches. It is what it is.....but I do agree w Karma. If you cut someone that you gave an opportunity to, so be it. But if you recruit a kid, he comes in and for the first time is living on his own, and you never even give the kid a fair shake, and by fair shake I mean at least one full game with decent linemates to prove that either you are right, he is not good enough, or you were wrong, he can play and you have a chance to make it right. It's the guys that are inviting kids to move and play for their organization and then never let certain recruits get one oppty to prove themselves, those are the guys that Karma visits. If your running a tier 3 Junior team, and you ******* kids over like this....you'll prob get yours. And, yeah, my kid got cut.

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anon
People have to stop, think, and keep repeating this to find some serenity -
Unless you are in the 2% tagged to be a professional player and getting paid to play, it does not matter one bit, other than ego and bragging, what level you play in college.
You will be working a job when you graduate and paying to play hockey like everyone else.
Weekly mens league games all over North America are filled with former D1, D3, ACHA, and even High School players, all on the same ice and none of them are getting paid.
When you stop chasing you can start enjoying.




It definitely matters when your kid is playing D1 on the top line for free. Saved me $250k. Yes that really matters a lot

Re: Roster Cuts This week

anon
anon
People have to stop, think, and keep repeating this to find some serenity -
Unless you are in the 2% tagged to be a professional player and getting paid to play, it does not matter one bit, other than ego and bragging, what level you play in college.
You will be working a job when you graduate and paying to play hockey like everyone else.
Weekly mens league games all over North America are filled with former D1, D3, ACHA, and even High School players, all on the same ice and none of them are getting paid.
When you stop chasing you can start enjoying.




It definitely matters when your kid is playing D1 on the top line for free. Saved me $250k. Yes that really matters a lot
Of course it will, your kid is going to age-out of Jr's, then if he is lucky, be a fourth liner after sitting for two years at his D1 school.

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According to Elite Prospects for the US Born 03's
NCDC 146
NAHL 297
NA3 336
USHL 105
BCHL 45
AJHL 23
EHL 200
EHLP 119
USPHL Premier 436
USPHL ELite 90

Total 03 US Players: 1,797 players trying to get seen. So, do your best, but the reality is your not going to make it. Reach out to D2 and D3 coaches that have academic programs you are interested in, if no interest back, look at Club at D1, D2, D3 schools that have academics your interested in. Numbers don't lie. Good luck on your futures.

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Plus, you can pretty much assume that all the American USHL and BCHL players have commitments or offers, and there are probably 50 '03s already playing NCAA. So about 200 spots are already gone. And you left out most of the Canadian leagues, like the OJHL, CCHL, NOJHL, GOJHL, SJHL, MJHL, etc., most of which are as good or better than all US-based leagues except the USHL and the NAHL. Junior leagues in Europe, too. Many of those players are shooting for college opportunities, as well.

It's tough to play NCAA hockey.

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Anon
anon
anon
People have to stop, think, and keep repeating this to find some serenity -
Unless you are in the 2% tagged to be a professional player and getting paid to play, it does not matter one bit, other than ego and bragging, what level you play in college.
You will be working a job when you graduate and paying to play hockey like everyone else.
Weekly mens league games all over North America are filled with former D1, D3, ACHA, and even High School players, all on the same ice and none of them are getting paid.
When you stop chasing you can start enjoying.




It definitely matters when your kid is playing D1 on the top line for free. Saved me $250k. Yes that really matters a lot
Of course it will, your kid is going to age-out of Jr's, then if he is lucky, be a fourth liner after sitting for two years at his D1 school.
No he is starting D for a D-1 school as a sophomore and will graduate with a masters for free

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anon
Anon
anon
anon
People have to stop, think, and keep repeating this to find some serenity -
Unless you are in the 2% tagged to be a professional player and getting paid to play, it does not matter one bit, other than ego and bragging, what level you play in college.
You will be working a job when you graduate and paying to play hockey like everyone else.
Weekly mens league games all over North America are filled with former D1, D3, ACHA, and even High School players, all on the same ice and none of them are getting paid.
When you stop chasing you can start enjoying.




It definitely matters when your kid is playing D1 on the top line for free. Saved me $250k. Yes that really matters a lot
Of course it will, your kid is going to age-out of Jr\'s, then if he is lucky, be a fourth liner after sitting for two years at his D1 school.
No he is starting D for a D-1 school as a sophomore and will graduate with a masters for free
You really on the D-board flexing about your kid. D1 isn't enough for you? Hope your son doesn't have the same ego as mommy or daddy.

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Anon
anon
Anon
anon
anon
People have to stop, think, and keep repeating this to find some serenity -
Unless you are in the 2% tagged to be a professional player and getting paid to play, it does not matter one bit, other than ego and bragging, what level you play in college.
You will be working a job when you graduate and paying to play hockey like everyone else.
Weekly mens league games all over North America are filled with former D1, D3, ACHA, and even High School players, all on the same ice and none of them are getting paid.
When you stop chasing you can start enjoying.




It definitely matters when your kid is playing D1 on the top line for free. Saved me $250k. Yes that really matters a lot
Of course it will, your kid is going to age-out of Jr\\\'s, then if he is lucky, be a fourth liner after sitting for two years at his D1 school.
No he is starting D for a D-1 school as a sophomore and will graduate with a masters for free
You really on the D-board flexing about your kid. D1 isn't enough for you? Hope your son doesn't have the same ego as mommy or daddy.
He forgot to say it was D-1 high school hockey

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So what makes a kid stick to a team? Is it the level of compete? Is it game points? Is it something else? I assume it takes a player a little time to adjust to a new level but do coaches have patience with these kids or just healthy scratch or cut the kid completely? Any level, just curious the thought process.

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No idea but coaches have their reasons and it is not always apparent. Who is the "better" player is a very subjective thing. I was watching a NAHL main camp last August my oldest was in and one of the D on his team was awful, absolutely awful. Could not skate, stumbling every time he transitioned, terrible footwork, just a terrible skater and he made terrible decisions throwing the puck all over the place. Worst D man on the ice. Myself and another guy I know that were watching just kind of looked at each other in disbelief and chuckled a bit. Jokes on us, that kid made the team and our kids did not. Not saying they should have but there were also more deserving players there that I thought should have made the cut but didn't as well. Frankly, still a bit chapped by that. I've seen this same thing over and over again. What is it these coaches see in "that" kid? I got over trying to figure it all out and my life has been better off for it. These people are going to choose who they want to choose, just hope your kid gets the call. It's outside of your control.

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Anon
No idea but coaches have their reasons and it is not always apparent. Who is the "better" player is a very subjective thing. I was watching a NAHL main camp last August my oldest was in and one of the D on his team was awful, absolutely awful. Could not skate, stumbling every time he transitioned, terrible footwork, just a terrible skater and he made terrible decisions throwing the puck all over the place. Worst D man on the ice. Myself and another guy I know that were watching just kind of looked at each other in disbelief and chuckled a bit. Jokes on us, that kid made the team and our kids did not. Not saying they should have but there were also more deserving players there that I thought should have made the cut but didn't as well. Frankly, still a bit chapped by that. I've seen this same thing over and over again. What is it these coaches see in "that" kid? I got over trying to figure it all out and my life has been better off for it. These people are going to choose who they want to choose, just hope your kid gets the call. It's outside of your control.
Kid was probably a "fighter"

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Anon
No idea but coaches have their reasons and it is not always apparent. Who is the "better" player is a very subjective thing. I was watching a NAHL main camp last August my oldest was in and one of the D on his team was awful, absolutely awful. Could not skate, stumbling every time he transitioned, terrible footwork, just a terrible skater and he made terrible decisions throwing the puck all over the place. Worst D man on the ice. Myself and another guy I know that were watching just kind of looked at each other in disbelief and chuckled a bit. Jokes on us, that kid made the team and our kids did not. Not saying they should have but there were also more deserving players there that I thought should have made the cut but didn't as well. Frankly, still a bit chapped by that. I've seen this same thing over and over again. What is it these coaches see in "that" kid? I got over trying to figure it all out and my life has been better off for it. These people are going to choose who they want to choose, just hope your kid gets the call. It's outside of your control.
Yeah I even saw that at a USHL camp. Worst D on the ice was a 17 year old foreign player. Did nothing but make mistake after mistake after mistake. Figured the kid had no chance whatsoever of making the team cause he was clueless out there. Definitely needed more time - too young to play at that level. Made the team and spent the entire year playing big minutes for the team all year. Then got a D1 commitment there and does the same thing. Mistake after mistake and turnover after turnover and can barely skate - SOOOOO slow. I will never understand what a coach sees in him.

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Anon
anon
Anon
anon
anon
People have to stop, think, and keep repeating this to find some serenity -
Unless you are in the 2% tagged to be a professional player and getting paid to play, it does not matter one bit, other than ego and bragging, what level you play in college.
You will be working a job when you graduate and paying to play hockey like everyone else.
Weekly mens league games all over North America are filled with former D1, D3, ACHA, and even High School players, all on the same ice and none of them are getting paid.
When you stop chasing you can start enjoying.




It definitely matters when your kid is playing D1 on the top line for free. Saved me $250k. Yes that really matters a lot
Of course it will, your kid is going to age-out of Jr\\\'s, then if he is lucky, be a fourth liner after sitting for two years at his D1 school.
No he is starting D for a D-1 school as a sophomore and will graduate with a masters for free
You really on the D-board flexing about your kid. D1 isn't enough for you? Hope your son doesn't have the same ego as mommy or daddy.
No just correcting the poster that said my kid will just age out of juniors and be a 4th liner somewhere

No ego here at all - just telling the truth that it does matter if you keep playing even if you won't be a pro (which I know my son will not be but he got college for free so to him and to us thats a HUGE deal) . This piece of garbage just dismisses that as useless cause he won't be a pro

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My sons in his first year of Juniors and if he's not competing or doesn't produce I would expect him to be cut. Jr Hockey isn't Youth or Prep Hockey. These kids know their job and if they can't do then they get skipped over. Makes sense to me. I'd hate to see my kid not playing but its up to him now.

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Anon
Thought the same thing as the OP but you have to realize that even D3 schools want a year or 2 of Juniors now. Kid has to really want it in order to compete for a spot anywhere at this point.
It's ridiculous in my opinion, one of my sons is looking to play ACHA after high school, he called the coach and the coach practically told him unless he played 1-2 years of juniors he needs to be a complete standout or he won't take him.

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Anon
Anon
Thought the same thing as the OP but you have to realize that even D3 schools want a year or 2 of Juniors now. Kid has to really want it in order to compete for a spot anywhere at this point.
It's ridiculous in my opinion, one of my sons is looking to play ACHA after high school, he called the coach and the coach practically told him unless he played 1-2 years of juniors he needs to be a complete standout or he won't take him.
Cmon. What school ??

Acha coaches have been contacting my kid since his sophomore year of d3 high school telling him to skip juniors and come play club college right away.

Bunch of his ex teammates are playing club right out of high school. And. They were okay hockey players in high school.

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Anon
Anon
Thought the same thing as the OP but you have to realize that even D3 schools want a year or 2 of Juniors now. Kid has to really want it in order to compete for a spot anywhere at this point.
It's ridiculous in my opinion, one of my sons is looking to play ACHA after high school, he called the coach and the coach practically told him unless he played 1-2 years of juniors he needs to be a complete standout or he won't take him.
I believe this if it's a high level ACHA D1 school, even some upper end ACHA D2. Those teams are club in name only. They operate like a varsity college sport but just don't have the designation in the athletic department.

There is a wide range in ACHA from being a fully budgeted club team that operates like a varsity program to totally student run where a bunch of guys who played hockey throw a team together.

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Anon
Anon
Anon
Thought the same thing as the OP but you have to realize that even D3 schools want a year or 2 of Juniors now. Kid has to really want it in order to compete for a spot anywhere at this point.
It\'s ridiculous in my opinion, one of my sons is looking to play ACHA after high school, he called the coach and the coach practically told him unless he played 1-2 years of juniors he needs to be a complete standout or he won\'t take him.
I believe this if it's a high level ACHA D1 school, even some upper end ACHA D2. Those teams are club in name only. They operate like a varsity college sport but just don't have the designation in the athletic department.

There is a wide range in ACHA from being a fully budgeted club team that operates like a varsity program to totally student run where a bunch of guys who played hockey throw a team together.
And just to remind folks how good even the best ACHA Club Hockey teams are, arguably one of the top D1 Club Teams recently is UNLV, they had an exhibition vs Denver (NCAA D1), just this past weekend. They stopped counting the score at 10-0, and remember, they are playing everyone on the D1 roster in this game from Denver

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Anon
Anon
Anon
Anon
Thought the same thing as the OP but you have to realize that even D3 schools want a year or 2 of Juniors now. Kid has to really want it in order to compete for a spot anywhere at this point.
It\\\'s ridiculous in my opinion, one of my sons is looking to play ACHA after high school, he called the coach and the coach practically told him unless he played 1-2 years of juniors he needs to be a complete standout or he won\\\'t take him.
I believe this if it\'s a high level ACHA D1 school, even some upper end ACHA D2. Those teams are club in name only. They operate like a varsity college sport but just don\'t have the designation in the athletic department.

There is a wide range in ACHA from being a fully budgeted club team that operates like a varsity program to totally student run where a bunch of guys who played hockey throw a team together.
And just to remind folks how good even the best ACHA Club Hockey teams are, arguably one of the top D1 Club Teams recently is UNLV, they had an exhibition vs Denver (NCAA D1), just this past weekend. They stopped counting the score at 10-0, and remember, they are playing everyone on the D1 roster in this game from Denver
What's your point? Do you think players confuse D1 Hockey for Club Hockey? C'mon man! NLV Uni's are Fire! They practice 3 times a week and only lost to the #1 Ranked NCAA Division 1 Team by 10. Not bad for a bunch of kids not good enough to make a college roster.

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URI club team better than many lower level d1 hockey schools

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Anon
Anon
Anon
Anon
Thought the same thing as the OP but you have to realize that even D3 schools want a year or 2 of Juniors now. Kid has to really want it in order to compete for a spot anywhere at this point.
It\\\'s ridiculous in my opinion, one of my sons is looking to play ACHA after high school, he called the coach and the coach practically told him unless he played 1-2 years of juniors he needs to be a complete standout or he won\\\'t take him.
I believe this if it\'s a high level ACHA D1 school, even some upper end ACHA D2. Those teams are club in name only. They operate like a varsity college sport but just don\'t have the designation in the athletic department.

There is a wide range in ACHA from being a fully budgeted club team that operates like a varsity program to totally student run where a bunch of guys who played hockey throw a team together.
And just to remind folks how good even the best ACHA Club Hockey teams are, arguably one of the top D1 Club Teams recently is UNLV, they had an exhibition vs Denver (NCAA D1), just this past weekend. They stopped counting the score at 10-0, and remember, they are playing everyone on the D1 roster in this game from Denver
Miami Ohio and Arizona State both lost to Denver 7-1 last year, which is obviously better than 10-0 but not far off, so God forbid a club hockey team loses to the #1 ranked NCAA team with 12 NHL draft picks.

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I said they stopped counting at 10-0, it was more.

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Anon
I said they stopped counting at 10-0, it was more.
So what was the score? Did they get to 20? Just curious?

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Anon
I said they stopped counting at 10-0, it was more.
GOAL SUMMARY
1st Period
4:40 DU (1-0) – PPG, Carter King scored on a rebound in front after taking a pass from Jack Devine along the boards.
12:29 DU (2-0) – Sean Behrens scored on a slap shot from the left point after a cross feed from Lucas Olvestad.
18:06 DU (3-0) – PPG, Carter Mazur's shot from the right circle was tipped by a Rebels defender and the puck fluttered into the net.

2nd Period
4:21 DU (4-0) – Jared Wright took a pass from Carter King in the slot, skated past a UNLV defender and scored by depositing the puck between the legs of the goaltender.
12:03 DU (5-0) – McKade Webster and Jared Wright traded passes before Webster scored on a shot in the slot just as a UNLV power play expired.
12:41 DU (6-0) – Carter King grabbed a loose puck in the high slot, turned, shot and scored.

3rd Period
6:28 DU (7-0) – PPG, Rieger Lorenz scored after a bouncing puck found him open at the right circle.
13:44 DU (8-0) – PPG, Brett Edwards found twine with a wrister in the slot.
14:27 DU (9-0) – PPG, Carter King completed the hat trick with a redirection off a pass from Jack Devine.
15:37 DU (10-0) – PPG, Tyler Haskins tallied on a snap shot from the left circle.

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Son cut this week, team wont release his rights? Does this make sense? He has other teams that want him. Is there a way out of this?

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If the other teams really want him they could work out a trade.

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Anon
Son cut this week, team wont release his rights? Does this make sense? He has other teams that want him. Is there a way out of this?
When you are cut after the season begins like this for an NCDC team did they offer your son a spot on the Premier team with the sti****tion that now you have to pay or did they say nothing leaving your son in limbo? Why would they want to retain the rights to a player they cut and they did not offer a spot on their Premier team where they'd have to pay. I get trying to force you into a pay to play situation (for them) but if that's not the case, why leave the player in total limbo.

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uninformed
Anon
Son cut this week, team wont release his rights? Does this make sense? He has other teams that want him. Is there a way out of this?
When you are cut after the season begins like this for an NCDC team did they offer your son a spot on the Premier team with the sti****tion that now you have to pay or did they say nothing leaving your son in limbo? Why would they want to retain the rights to a player they cut and they did not offer a spot on their Premier team where they'd have to pay. I get trying to force you into a pay to play situation (for them) but if that's not the case, why leave the player in total limbo.
Wouldn't them releasing the player mean they release his rights too??

My son was waived from a USHL team and once he cleared waivers they didn't have his rights anymore. Seems silly for the to be able to release a player and keep his rights!