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Re: ACHA

anon
Times have changed and so has level of play -
ACHA = 80s/90s D3
D3 = 80s/90s D1
D1 = 80s/90s minor pro


This comparison is skewed as D3 didn't even exist until 1984 and ACHA until 1991. The sport has exploded since then and a big part of that is college club hockey. It gives prospective players something to work towards rather than wrapping up their playing days after high school. It is nice to know my kids have a shot at something better than the beer league.

Re: ACHA

I don't know if ACHA teams have "always" recruited, but some coaches recruit today. A coach really ****ed me off a few years ago when he called my son - who was then playing 15U - and said he was a "D1" coach. My son, not really knowing the landscape, was all excited. I had to tell him it was D1 club, not D1 NCAA. What a low-life coach.

That said, I am a strong proponent of club hockey. I played club and loved it. We practiced three nights a week, played two games almost every weekend, but we didn't have video, weights, etc. This gave me time to focus on school, parti****te in an academic club and enjoy college life.

Re: ACHA

It’s just like elite youth hockey.

They recruit because there are too many teams and they want to be competitive.

And to those thinking that Acha is completely free are delusional.

You are paying.

Re: ACHA

Anon
It’s just like elite youth hockey.

They recruit because there are too many teams and they want to be competitive.

And to those thinking that Acha is completely free are delusional.

You are paying.
Most schools have the fees online. 2500-3500 is the norm depending on travel, merch, etc..n

Re: ACHA

The player may not receive funds but the college will fund the program based on recruited players. This ultimately lowers the cost for the entire club program as it expands their budget.

Club teans at D1 schools would be highly competitive against many D3 teams.

Re: ACHA

CC
The player may not receive funds but the college will fund the program based on recruited players. This ultimately lowers the cost for the entire club program as it expands their budget.

Club teans at D1 schools would be highly competitive against many D3 teams.
spoken like another parent who's kid didn't make it to D3

Re: ACHA

Anon
CC
The player may not receive funds but the college will fund the program based on recruited players. This ultimately lowers the cost for the entire club program as it expands their budget.

Club teans at D1 schools would be highly competitive against many D3 teams.
spoken like another parent who's kid didn't make it to D3
I mean he is not wrong, maybe they might be competitive against Framingham State and Rivier….

Re: ACHA

Does the school have an NCAA team too or just ACHA?

Re: ACHA

ACHA can be good hockey competitively. Where you play hockey should be driven by education, and if that means playing good ACHA, so be it.
Yes, some schools charge money to cover the cost of playing, some schools do not so please do your homework. There are some D1 ACHA teams that will complete with Varsity programs. I have never heard of a ACHA program giving some athletic scholarships to players but neither do D3 programs. Yes, D3 hockey programs may find a player money someplace, but it is NOT to play hockey, the NCAA would have issue with this. Huge section on this in the NCAA certification for Ice Hockey.

ACHA can be a great option for your player that realizes that their education will help them more than where they played hockey. WPI covers all costs for their men's and women's ACHA teams.

Re: ACHA

ACHA is great for one reason.

There are now thousands of kids who would have hung them up after there first high school game who were not good enough or not willing to go play juniors for a few years that are able to continue to play competitive games.

That’s is. Nothing more. It’s good for the sport. Good for the game and good for the kids.

Kids can now be part of a team and play giving them something to do and adding structure to college.

Most ACHA kids would have played in their schools alumni game and then jumped into beer leage or pickups prior to the explosion of Acha.

None of these kids are turning an ACHA season into a spot on the real team. Some of them maybe could. But it doesn’t happen.

Re: ACHA

UNLV club lost 3-1 at home to Anchorage Alaska D1 team tonight. I don’t know or care what players Anchorage used, The gap is narrowing.

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oh please, get a grip. Then the next evening Anchorage-Alaska played Liberty, another top ACHA team, and best them 10-1 and outshot them 66-17, they also out-shot UNLV 37-16, so their goalie stood on his head. Dude, if UNLV goes NCAA DI, I can guarantee you that none of the current players on the roster would be on the new team

Re: ACHA

Anon
oh please, get a grip. Then the next evening Anchorage-Alaska played Liberty, another top ACHA team, and best them 10-1 and outshot them 66-17, they also out-shot UNLV 37-16, so their goalie stood on his head. Dude, if UNLV goes NCAA DI, I can guarantee you that none of the current players on the roster would be on the new team
How do you guys know so much about club hockey?

Re: ACHA

It gets more coverage, fan interest and live streaming than backwater New England D-3 whack-a-puck.

Re: ACHA

Anon
It gets more coverage, fan interest and live streaming than backwater New England D-3 whack-a-puck.
It get's more coverage in parts of the country where there isn't any real college hockey you dumb a__

Re: ACHA

So, if a kid gets into let's say BC and can play club but is also able to play NCAA D3 at a UMass Boston, UNE etc. you think they should play club at BC over competing at the NCAA D3 level?

Re: ACHA

Anon
So, if a kid gets into let's say BC and can play club but is also able to play NCAA D3 at a UMass Boston, UNE etc. you think they should play club at BC over competing at the NCAA D3 level?
I think there would be a discussion with the player and his family about his educational goals. What is his degree field and where would he/she like to work post graduation. If my kid can get a degree from BC while playing competitive hockey then he would most likely go that road over a D3 run at Framingham state. Now, if we are talking Babson or Bentley it would be a different conversation entirely.

Club hockey is for student-athletes, in that order.

Re: ACHA

My son was a 4.0 GPA in HS. Played at a Hockey Academy. Did not want to grind out juniors, picked UMASS Amherst for a school, plays club there. Education first, hockey second was his choice. I supported his decision 100%.

Re: ACHA

Anon
My son was a 4.0 GPA in HS. Played at a Hockey Academy. Did not want to grind out juniors, picked UMASS Amherst for a school, plays club there. Education first, hockey second was his choice. I supported his decision 100%.
Keep smearing lipstick on a pig. What you really saying is - I paid money throughout youth hockey and school. Kid didn’t make it. Had no real interest from schools or juniors. Had to hang ‘em up or play club. Kids plays club now.

Re: ACHA

Yes, 100%

Re: ACHA

Northeast centric board so perceptions are different regarding D3 and ACHA D1. There are a lot of D3 options in the Northeast. Go out west (like the previously mentioned UNLV) and ACHA is more prevalent than D3 with more large state schools fielding programs that are funded and have coaches who recruit, etc. and it is treated like a "varsity" sport. The only reason these club teams are not elevated to varsity is politics (Title 9 implications).

How is it that every Big Ten school does not have a hockey program? The Big Ten is flush with money. Money is not the restrictive factor, it's politics. Take Iowa for example. Iowa has a brand new, shiny 7,000 seat arena sitting right there that a D1 program could move into tomorrow. Instead, the club team calls it home (and the club team is rising in the ACHA ranks). Iowa can' commit to a 3rd men's winter sport when wrestling already outdraws basketball and the additional Title 9 requirements of adding hockey. The way it is they have 200 girls on the rowing team (crew, in Iowa, yeah) to offset the title 9 requirements of the men's sports (football).

Re: ACHA

All legit points.

The issue I had was, the son was a very good h.s. player (with size & skating ability) and teams of the higher Junior leagues put the full court press on him to play. He did not have a real desire to play Jr. hockey regardless of where it led him and his interests in academics were very STEM focused. So locally what were his realistic choices?

Play Jr.s and maybe end-up at a liberal arts NESCAC school?
Play Jr.s and end-up playing D-1 and end-up a Communications Major due to the demands D-1 places on a player?
Go to the school of his choice with higher level STEM academics and play ACHA?

For him, high level hockey was a good ride but adulthood came calling. Two years of living in the basement, working odd jobs, even with offers of playing in a 'free to play league,' dating local randoms. . . not for him.

Re: ACHA

anon
All legit points.

The issue I had was, the son was a very good h.s. player (with size & skating ability) and teams of the higher Junior leagues put the full court press on him to play. He did not have a real desire to play Jr. hockey regardless of where it led him and his interests in academics were very STEM focused. So locally what were his realistic choices?

Play Jr.s and maybe end-up at a liberal arts NESCAC school?
Play Jr.s and end-up playing D-1 and end-up a Communications Major due to the demands D-1 places on a player?
Go to the school of his choice with higher level STEM academics and play ACHA?

For him, high level hockey was a good ride but adulthood came calling. Two years of living in the basement, working odd jobs, even with offers of playing in a 'free to play league,' dating local randoms. . . not for him.
that's a beautiful fairytale...