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Re: D3 Coaches...Chill

anon
You guys realize junior hockey is FUN right? you all seem to think it's this horrible burden on these kids when in fact 90% of them love it.
90% ?? lol CAP!

fun for the owners, sure.

Re: D3 Coaches...Chill

We living it right now and its a nonstop grind, more like 20% fun, 80% what the F are we doing here playing in front of nobody

Re: D3 Coaches...Chill

Anon
We living it right now and its a nonstop grind, more like 20% fun, 80% what the F are we doing here playing in front of nobody
Emphasis on "we"

Re: D3 Coaches...Chill

anon
Anon
We living it right now and its a nonstop grind, more like 20% fun, 80% what the F are we doing here playing in front of nobody
Emphasis on "we"
Sorry Boomer, "I"

Re: D3 Coaches...Chill

These kids will be in the real world soon enough. Budget meetings, project deadlines, conference calls, etc. Enjoy playing hockey while you can. You have the rest of your life to work.

Re: D3 Coaches...Chill

Kids have always reclassed for an advantage, but hockey, for some reason, has carved its own specific loophole with the NCAA. They have modified the rules to be a developmental league rather than collegiate athletics. If the NHL wants players to be better prepared for pro they should have a post-college developmental process.

While juniors existed before, they most certainly were not a requirement. 21 year old freshmen is dumb for tons of reasons.

NCAA Age-limiting factors: Division 1 (D1) and Division 2 (D2) colleges require high school student-athletes to enroll in college no later than 12 months post-graduation. Upon acceptance, these students have five years to compete in four full years of college sports, as they can opt to redshirt (sit out of competitive gameplay for a season) for one of their four eligible years.

Note: The D1 and D2 eligibility grace periods for ice hockey players and tennis players differ:

Men’s and Women’s Tennis
D1: 6 months
D2: 12 months

Men’s Ice Hockey
D1: 21st birthday
D2: 3 years

Re: D3 Coaches...Chill

Anon
Kids have always reclassed for an advantage, but hockey, for some reason, has carved its own specific loophole with the NCAA. They have modified the rules to be a developmental league rather than collegiate athletics. If the NHL wants players to be better prepared for pro they should have a post-college developmental process.

While juniors existed before, they most certainly were not a requirement. 21 year old freshmen is dumb for tons of reasons.

NCAA Age-limiting factors: Division 1 (D1) and Division 2 (D2) colleges require high school student-athletes to enroll in college no later than 12 months post-graduation. Upon acceptance, these students have five years to compete in four full years of college sports, as they can opt to redshirt (sit out of competitive gameplay for a season) for one of their four eligible years.

Note: The D1 and D2 eligibility grace periods for ice hockey players and tennis players differ:

Men’s and Women’s Tennis
D1: 6 months
D2: 12 months

Men’s Ice Hockey
D1: 21st birthday
D2: 3 years
I thought Ice hockey players have until their 21st birthday to enroll in a D1 school and a grace period of three years post-graduation to enroll in a D2 school. Has this changed?

Re: D3 Coaches...Chill

Nope it hasn't changed, that's correct. Hockey is the only sport with that crazy grace period though, which doesn't make sense considering the very high level of competition in other NCAA sports like basketball and football.

Men’s Ice Hockey
D1: 21st birthday
D2: 3 years

Re: D3 Coaches...Chill

I enlisted in the Army straight out of HS and didn't start college until I was 24 and yes I played a sport in college. Heck Chris Weinke was 28 when he won the Heisman trophy. I don't understand, outside of the cesspool that is Tier-III juniors, why you are so upset at the age a kid is entering college. It's a choice, if it's not right for your family situation or your son, you just don't do it.

Re: D3 Coaches...Chill

anon
I enlisted in the Army straight out of HS and didn't start college until I was 24 and yes I played a sport in college. Heck Chris Weinke was 28 when he won the Heisman trophy. I don't understand, outside of the cesspool that is Tier-III juniors, why you are so upset at the age a kid is entering college. It's a choice, if it's not right for your family situation or your son, you just don't do it.
Majority of New England D3 hockey teams are assembled from that cesspool that you speak of. See how the problem occur? If a coach is getting kids from the cesspool, don’t act like your program isn’t some top level destination.

Re: D3 Coaches...Chill

If Worchester State, Framingham State, Franklin Pierce, Suffix, and many other DII and DIII schools are not for your hockey player look at ACHA - Most ACHA higher division schools will beat many of the small New England DII & DIII schools.

Re: D3 Coaches...Chill

Anon
If Worchester State, Framingham State, Franklin Pierce, Suffix, and many other DII and DIII schools are not for your hockey player look at ACHA - Most ACHA higher division schools will beat many of the small New England DII & DIII schools.
Oh boy, here goes the club hockey parent again trying to validate that his son could have played NCAA. It’s ok, we know your son would have been a stud at Framingham or Finlandia.

Re: D3 Coaches...Chill

Juniors is not necessary for D3. My son plays D3 at a NESCAC school and didn’t play juniors. Many will go to chase the D1 dream though.

Re: D3 Coaches...Chill

Anon
Juniors is not necessary for D3. My son plays D3 at a NESCAC school and didn’t play juniors. Many will go to chase the D1 dream though.
Uhhhhhhh.. you’re so so very wrong. Graduating Class of 2022 was 03 and 04 players. There are 38 US Born 03’s on D3 rosters, and 9 04”s. So your theory is trash. Jr Hockey is a must.

Re: D3 Coaches...Chill

Anon
Anon
Juniors is not necessary for D3. My son plays D3 at a NESCAC school and didn’t play juniors. Many will go to chase the D1 dream though.
Uhhhhhhh.. you’re so so very wrong. Graduating Class of 2022 was 03 and 04 players. There are 38 US Born 03’s on D3 rosters, and 9 04”s. So your theory is trash. Jr Hockey is a must.
Umm. No it’s not. My son went to a very good prep school in CT and is playing as an 18 year old at a NESCAC school. Your advisor was wrong in

Re: D3 Coaches...Chill

D3 coaches are clowns who are empowered by desperate players. Sad truth is when junior players take a step back and visit an actual nice college, why the hell would anyone want to go to fitchburg? This will never happen and until then the power trip continues

Re: D3 Coaches...Chill

The numbers of kids coming right out of high school to D3 schools could increase if people realistically listened to what D1 coaches do or do not say to them about the player. If it is anything less than, do a year of juniors and if we see x, y and z we will take him next year, actively seek D3 opportunities. D3 coaches will also not chase you down if you are intent on pursuing the D1 dream. They will wait until reality hits home. That is why those 03 and 04 numbers direct to D3 exist the way they are. If you are coming out of prep this year with nothing concrete, you should actively be reaching out to D3 schools. If you have good grades, NESCAC coaches are making decisions right now.

Re: D3 Coaches...Chill

anon
The numbers of kids coming right out of high school to D3 schools could increase if people realistically listened to what D1 coaches do or do not say to them about the player. If it is anything less than, do a year of juniors and if we see x, y and z we will take him next year, actively seek D3 opportunities. D3 coaches will also not chase you down if you are intent on pursuing the D1 dream. They will wait until reality hits home. That is why those 03 and 04 numbers direct to D3 exist the way they are. If you are coming out of prep this year with nothing concrete, you should actively be reaching out to D3 schools. If you have good grades, NESCAC coaches are making decisions right now.
You don't think it has to do with Covid trickle down?

Re: D3 Coaches...Chill

While its possible to be a rostered player without playing junior, you have to remember in your decision there's a difference between being rostered and actually playing. Being in the stands watching getting spot games the first year or so sucks.

Re: D3 Coaches...Chill

Not all D3 schools play in dumpy state rinks dummy! Elmira, Oswego, Plattsburgh-Great rinks, great fans, great teams and great hockey...not D1, no, but not too shabby either..