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Re: When does it matter, and why?

Beatcuff - you have no idea what you are talking about. Players do get recruited and do commit to college as early as middle school.

Yes, but only the best of the best elite players. So for 99% of kids, it ain't happening in Middle School

Yes, and this is the problem with youth hockey. Far too many approach the sport as if their kid is in the top 0.1% and looking for that middle school commitment. Sure they say "my kid just wants to play all summer, leave me alone" and sure they say "the Brick will be a memorable experience for my child and I", but really they are thinking in their brain that their kid is going to get middle school.

And to bring it back to the money grab thread, there are people out there selling that dream, or should I say taking advantage of these misguided parents, and some of them can be legitimately be considered a money grab. I'm not saying don't play, but just don't be afraid to call it a money grab. I've put my son into plenty of tournaments that were money grabs because he wanted to play. That doesn't change the fact that they were money grabs. Buying a beer at Fenway is a huge money grab and I'm not going to stop doing that. But I'm also not going to ignore the fact that it's a money grab.

This is idiotic. How is buying beer at Fenway a money grab, but buying beer somewhere else isn't.

Please enlighten us on what is a legitimate money grab vs. a an illegitimate money grab.

Hey man, I'm not telling you to avoid any tournaments. I'm also not judging you for signing up for them. I'm just saying...don't pretend that some of them are not money grabs.

The money grab is a guy putting together a group of kids that are willing to pay a premium for something that is worth no more than the ice time, but with an implied promise that they will get "exposure".

Re: When does it matter, and why?

Beatcuff - you have no idea what you are talking about. Players do get recruited and do commit to college as early as middle school.

you made two statements in one, showing you do not understand the difference:

any player (parent) can 'commit' to any school they want. doing so does not make it so and has no standing.

commitments from coaches vary with each having its own 'standing'. there is a big difference from a coach SAYING "we'd love to have you play for us" v a coach handing a commitment document (and that only starts the process). yet many think/act as if they are the same.

fine maybe there is a player or two that were 'noticed' in middle school: the level of JE of Sabers and JW of CC and maybe you can name 10 (doubtful) but out of.... thousands... in this state alone. you know that CC had over 100 tryout? even then notice and talk and in writing are very different.

then again i have 'no idea', all my interactions with college coaches are... watching commitments being pulled are 'impossible'.

and so now you will 'pressure' your child because he is 'falling behind'. the other poster is correct your middle schooler has to stand out v top high school players to get 'noticed'.

how about enjoy the ride, it will be over way faster than you think. besides if he is really good enough what difference does it make if he gets his 'ticket' at 14, 17 or 19 -- he got it.