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Half of the 06 BA Elite team played this weekend for 05 95 Giants. Qualifying rules state if a player is on a roster of a team that has already qualified for a team in the E9 division that that player will be expelled for the season from both teams.
I know the Lovell brothers are men of their word they will hold the these players and coaches accountable. Unfortunately KP the coach of the 06 BA Elite team had his son play. Rules are Rules.
Re read the rules, pretty clear. Says "ANY" not "any within same age division"
You don't get it so sad.
No skin in the game... but I think the point is:
Why have an elite player play in qualifying for a league he won't play in during the year? How does this help anyone? If it allows the 05 team to move up won't they be in a bad spot the rest of the year? What do the other kids that are on the team and will be on the team all year feel about having this kid join? What do the parents think? And finally, why as a parent of an "elite" kid want your kid to play in a BHL qualifying tournament?
Wait a minute. I thought BA doesn't care about winning - it only cares about development?
The initial post stated it was against rules, well it's not. All the other rhetoric is not relevant.
Go back to league rules and review first bullet item.
It wasn't half, it was a few. Put those kids in a bad position.
KP's kid was the difference maker and only reason they won two games.
Wosrt thing is they did it against their own program, people were not happy especially the AV's
I was in two different rinks yesterday and that was all everyone was talking about. I could careless and still went home and read the rules(because I am an attorney, I felt compelled).
The players involved are expelled and the team they play for is suspended.
This will hold up in a court of law. If the organized involved push it.
Gallant would near let his teams pull this crap. If they did he would stand up and take the punishment. That is why the E9/Bhl will never compete with the Efed.
Let's see if KP and TL are solid guys and take the punishment. Oh and there is no loophole.
KP should be calling Tom Brady lawyer asap. You cheater!!
What was the score of the 05 Elite BA vs Patriot score this weekend?
I don't think this was as malicious as it being made to be. Basically, the 95G were short players and were going to have to forfeit games on Saturday and from what I hear that is an auto dis qualifier for the year and you are out of the league.
In order to avoid that they scrambled calling people and had 15 kids show up, they played them all, which as a parent I would not be happy with a hour drive to be told we couldn't play.
heck, rumor was that they didn't even have a goalie and the Knights got them one for their game.
SO this was not done intentionally to "cheat".
It went bad after the fact as they had not won a game up to that point, wining the next two games in the final minutes of each, by the 06E kids scoring 98% of the goals and coming form behind to beat both teams.
Hey, still not a big deal. just eat it and play on. But since it was such a clear cut violation people started making a stink.
Maybe you could start a petition and have parents sign it and take it to Gilmartin.
Typical BA lack of organization. When will they hire people to run this place?
"I feel bad for some of the kids and parents as it is, their rostered players barely touched a puck in those two games."
Really? Two 06 players had that kind of impact on these games? I wouldn't consider either kid an all-star at the 06 level anyway. What kind of teams are these? I could see a two good players running around against town teams but even that is a stretch at this age.
Maybe they are just late developers?
Looks like it was legal if 06 birth year was playing up.
They had an 04 too
No they didn't.
The poor kid just wanted to play hockey. The team was short players and didn't want to forfeit. It was one game. Let it go and move on now.
They had fewer than 5 skaters and one goalie?
Who cares? You people are pathetic go live your lives.
I can't believe people would defend this. If it happened to you your position would be different. Pathetic. Pulling the "the kids just wanted to play hockey" card. Losers.
^^ are you actively trying to be stupid? Tampering with the outcome of games in parity can change the division a team gets placed in. I would completely agree if they were short players and they found some players to fill in that fit right in with everyone else and had little to no impact on the game either way. From what I am reading one kid had seven or eight goals in two games - not exactly blending in by my definition. An entire team could end up playing in the wrong division all year because of this tampering. It seems crazy to kick kids and coaches and teams out of the league over it. I think a fair consequence would be that they forfeit those games. The teams they did this to shouldn't have to suffer by taking a loss in parity and they shouldn't be rewarded for their choice with wins in parity. Maybe put the coaches and players on probation as well - let them stay but the next incident is zero tolerance. I can't imagine that the BA kids or their parents thought it through - chalk it up as a bad choice, slap on the wrist, lesson learned.
Jerkoffs are missing the point. Good luck cheaters.
Anything happen with this suspension?
Playing in National now, even though they made American ? hmmmm
Already forfeiting Game 1 because they don't have enough players !
No forfeit. League play starts next week
Usa hockey needs to step in here and make KP and TL accountable
I am really glad my kid plays in the Fed.
I believe the exact situation happened 2-3 years ago at the 2003 level with the Cyclones. Brought in some ringers, qualified for the E9, and then the ringers were never seen again.
IIRC, the league came down hard on the coach. I believe he was even banned. Maybe somebody closer to that situation has more details.
And when you all accept that this has nothing to do with fairness or player development, and EVERYTHING to do with the money being made by a select few people - this will all become very clear. But then, the D-Board won't be nearly as fun!