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Re: Are you a real Coach or a Daddy Coach?

Anon
Well said. Also, if you didn't skate with the coach and do your homework on him well before tryouts then shame on you. If you actually had to go to the tryout to know you made the team then it's likely your kid is a third liner anyway and that is why your disgruntled. [/quoted]

Says one Daddy Coach to the other...it's like a bad joke.

Re: Are you a real Coach or a Daddy Coach?

anyone realize the correlation between most high level college and pro players when they talk about their youth hockey experience ???? because almost all of them say that their dad was their coach !

Granted there are probably some inexperienced or bad dad coaches. I will take well prepared mid level daddy coaches who actually care about the team as opposed to a pro coach with no vested interest and no practice plan or vision for the season any day.

I am sure I share this sentiment with several parents and her this often.

In fact I know an assistant with zero hockey background that was a great assistant due to his connection with the kids and years of coaching experience at a high level with another sport partnered with a "dad" coach that played college that has some knowledge of the game, was one of the best experiences as a parent i have had.

conversely, one of the worst, was with a pro coach who didn't give a s**t about the kids or team.

Re: Are you a real Coach or a Daddy Coach?

Anon
anyone realize the correlation between most high level college and pro players when they talk about their youth hockey experience ???? because almost all of them say that their dad was their coach !

Granted there are probably some inexperienced or bad dad coaches. I will take well prepared mid level daddy coaches who actually care about the team as opposed to a pro coach with no vested interest and no practice plan or vision for the season any day.

I am sure I share this sentiment with several parents and her this often.

In fact I know an assistant with zero hockey background that was a great assistant due to his connection with the kids and years of coaching experience at a high level with another sport partnered with a "dad" coach that played college that has some knowledge of the game, was one of the best experiences as a parent i have had.

conversely, one of the worst, was with a pro coach who didn't give a s**t about the kids or team.


What if all your coaches are daddy coaches that are train wrecks?

Re: Are you a real Coach or a Daddy Coach?

"..anyone realize the correlation between most high level college and pro players when they talk about their youth hockey experience ???? because almost all of them say that their dad was their coach ! "

Yeah. What they don't mention (as in the other thread about hockey legacy kids) is their 'Daddy coach' was an ex-NHL'er and being part of the hockey family is how they ended-up a "high level college and pro player."

Re: Are you a real Coach or a Daddy Coach?

Depends on experience and how the coach interacts with the players. We have an experienced head coach, played college hockey focuses on skills and skating. We have an assistant coach who played Juniors and focuses on team moral, mental toughness. Both are Daddy coaches but you wouldn't know it. I guess as long as the kids play hard for them what else can I ask for.

Re: Are you a real Coach or a Daddy Coach?

Well said from the previous poster about commitment to the team. One of my sons plays for an ex NHLer. He could care less about the team. Brings a lot of hockey knowledge, and "OK" ability to translate it to the kids but goes through the motions. Doesn't care about "team". His previous coach only played through high school but knows the game better than anybody I've ever met and especially how to translate it to the kids. Is a disciplinarian and really cares about the team. Stressed fair, hard play and teamwork and created an environment that the kids feel obligated to perform for. He got a little hot under the collar sometimes but I'd much rather have that than the guy who played at a high-level who doesn't seem to care. There absolutely some real losers out there as daddy coaches but there are also some really good ones.

I feel really obligated to say the next sentence.

Sorry your kid get cut, sorry your kid is a third liner, sorry the coaches kid is better than your kid.

Re: Are you a real Coach or a Daddy Coach?

Anon
Well said from the previous poster about commitment to the team. One of my sons plays for an ex NHLer. He could care less about the team. Brings a lot of hockey knowledge, and "OK" ability to translate it to the kids but goes through the motions. Doesn't care about "team". His previous coach only played through high school but knows the game better than anybody I've ever met and especially how to translate it to the kids. Is a disciplinarian and really cares about the team. Stressed fair, hard play and teamwork and created an environment that the kids feel obligated to perform for. He got a little hot under the collar sometimes but I'd much rather have that than the guy who played at a high-level who doesn't seem to care. There absolutely some real losers out there as daddy coaches but there are also some really good ones.

I feel really obligated to say the next sentence.

Sorry your kid get cut, sorry your kid is a third liner, sorry the coaches kid is better than your kid.



Great post.... had to go and ruin it with the last sentence, but I like the disclaimer !

Re: Are you a real Coach or a Daddy Coach?

Anon
Depends on experience and how the coach interacts with the players. We have an experienced head coach, played college hockey focuses on skills and skating. We have an assistant coach who played Juniors and focuses on team moral, mental toughness. Both are Daddy coaches but you wouldn't know it. I guess as long as the kids play hard for them what else can I ask for.


They don't sound like Daddy Coaches, they sound like real Coaches who also have kids on their team. The original poster is not suggesting that a coach with a kid on the team as a bad coach, he/she is saying the actions of the coach is what makes him a 'Daddy Coach' as opposed to a real coach who understands and can teach hockey.....helloooooo???? Get it?

Re: Are you a real Coach or a Daddy Coach?

anon
Anon
Depends on experience and how the coach interacts with the players. We have an experienced head coach, played college hockey focuses on skills and skating. We have an assistant coach who played Juniors and focuses on team moral, mental toughness. Both are Daddy coaches but you wouldn't know it. I guess as long as the kids play hard for them what else can I ask for.


They don't sound like Daddy Coaches, they sound like real Coaches who also have kids on their team. The original poster is not suggesting that a coach with a kid on the team as a bad coach, he/she is saying the actions of the coach is what makes him a 'Daddy Coach' as opposed to a real coach who understands and can teach hockey.....helloooooo???? Get it?


Yeah, we get it. We all get that you think it's cleaver, but it's an old, derogatory term used by parents who seem to know everything but won't step up to coach a team themselves, or want to blame the precieved short comings of their kids on someone else. Bottom line, there are good coaches and not so good coaches. If you stay in town you're stuck with what you get. If you're in select, it's up to you to find the right spot for you're kid. It's called personal responsibility.

Re: Are you a real Coach or a Daddy Coach?

Anon
anon
Anon
Depends on experience and how the coach interacts with the players. We have an experienced head coach, played college hockey focuses on skills and skating. We have an assistant coach who played Juniors and focuses on team moral, mental toughness. Both are Daddy coaches but you wouldn't know it. I guess as long as the kids play hard for them what else can I ask for.


They don't sound like Daddy Coaches, they sound like real Coaches who also have kids on their team. The original poster is not suggesting that a coach with a kid on the team as a bad coach, he/she is saying the actions of the coach is what makes him a 'Daddy Coach' as opposed to a real coach who understands and can teach hockey.....helloooooo???? Get it?


Yeah, we get it. We all get that you think it's cleaver, but it's an old, derogatory term used by parents who seem to know everything but won't step up to coach a team themselves, or want to blame the precieved short comings of their kids on someone else. Bottom line, there are good coaches and not so good coaches. If you stay in town you're stuck with what you get. If you're in select, it's up to you to find the right spot for you're kid. It's called personal responsibility.



The draw of better coaching on money teams is a joke. There are a few exceptions but if your kid is having fun and learning with town hockey then don't waste your money

Re: Are you a real Coach or a Daddy Coach?

You know there was a town board for people like you, correct?

Re: Are you a real Coach or a Daddy Coach?

Hockey Hack
If the last competitive hockey game you played was when you were the same age as the players you are coaching, you just may be a Daddy Coach.

If your pre-game warm up drills consist of two players in motion and 13 standing around, you could be a Daddy Coach.

If you are unable to demonstrate the skating drills and edge work you are asking of your players, you're probably a Daddy Coach.

If you find yourself so caught up in the action of the hockey game that your over extended shifts regularly result in goals against, you're most likely a Daddy Coach.

If your coaching vocabulary primarily consists of phrases like "skate, skate, skate", and "pass, pass, pass," and "shoot, shoot, shoot", you are a Daddy Coach.

If you look forward to the team lunch at the local Italian joint in between tournament games and then surprised that your team's play was flat and lethargic, you're definitely a Daddy Coach.

If you are doing the same five drills at the end of the season as you did at the beginning of the season, you're a lazy Daddy Coach.

If you have not had a one-on-one mid-season meeting or provided any meaningful feedback to each individual player on what they need to specifically work on to improve, you're a clueless Daddy Coach.

If you rely on the individual skills of a few impact players to win games during the season, and can't understand why your team does not improve year after year, you're an ignorant Daddy Coach.

If you realize after coaching the same players for several years that they are not really developing and the team is not advancing, but you're reluctant to step down because next year is your free ride to the "big tournament", you are the MacDaddy of Daddy Coaches.


Love this....pin it in every arena!

Re: Are you a real Coach or a Daddy Coach?

Hockey Hack
If the last competitive hockey game you played was when you were the same age as the players you are coaching, you just may be a Daddy Coach.

If your pre-game warm up drills consist of two players in motion and 13 standing around, you could be a Daddy Coach.

If you are unable to demonstrate the skating drills and edge work you are asking of your players, you're probably a Daddy Coach.

If you find yourself so caught up in the action of the hockey game that your over extended shifts regularly result in goals against, you're most likely a Daddy Coach.

If your coaching vocabulary primarily consists of phrases like "skate, skate, skate", and "pass, pass, pass," and "shoot, shoot, shoot", you are a Daddy Coach.

If you look forward to the team lunch at the local Italian joint in between tournament games and then surprised that your team's play was flat and lethargic, you're definitely a Daddy Coach.

If you are doing the same five drills at the end of the season as you did at the beginning of the season, you're a lazy Daddy Coach.

If you have not had a one-on-one mid-season meeting or provided any meaningful feedback to each individual player on what they need to specifically work on to improve, you're a clueless Daddy Coach.

If you rely on the individual skills of a few impact players to win games during the season, and can't understand why your team does not improve year after year, you're an ignorant Daddy Coach.

If you realize after coaching the same players for several years that they are not really developing and the team is not advancing, but you're reluctant to step down because next year is your free ride to the "big tournament", you are the MacDaddy of Daddy Coaches.


If you took the time to type this entire post you are definitely a parent who is afraid of their own shadow, never put on skates and kisses the Daddy Coach' a$$.
Go get your shine-box loser.

Re: Are you a real Coach or a Daddy Coach?

anon
Hockey Hack
If the last competitive hockey game you played was when you were the same age as the players you are coaching, you just may be a Daddy Coach.

If your pre-game warm up drills consist of two players in motion and 13 standing around, you could be a Daddy Coach.

If you are unable to demonstrate the skating drills and edge work you are asking of your players, you're probably a Daddy Coach.

If you find yourself so caught up in the action of the hockey game that your over extended shifts regularly result in goals against, you're most likely a Daddy Coach.

If your coaching vocabulary primarily consists of phrases like "skate, skate, skate", and "pass, pass, pass," and "shoot, shoot, shoot", you are a Daddy Coach.

If you look forward to the team lunch at the local Italian joint in between tournament games and then surprised that your team's play was flat and lethargic, you're definitely a Daddy Coach.

If you are doing the same five drills at the end of the season as you did at the beginning of the season, you're a lazy Daddy Coach.

If you have not had a one-on-one mid-season meeting or provided any meaningful feedback to each individual player on what they need to specifically work on to improve, you're a clueless Daddy Coach.

If you rely on the individual skills of a few impact players to win games during the season, and can't understand why your team does not improve year after year, you're an ignorant Daddy Coach.

If you realize after coaching the same players for several years that they are not really developing and the team is not advancing, but you're reluctant to step down because next year is your free ride to the "big tournament", you are the MacDaddy of Daddy Coaches.


If you took the time to type this entire post you are definitely a parent who is afraid of their own shadow, never put on skates and kisses the Daddy Coach' a$$.
Go get your shine-box loser.


Congratulations on your ability to read all those words. So now do your team and their parents a favor and step down so the kids have a chance to enjoy playing some hockey this season. It will give you more time to crush some Gansets and watch sports center with your high school buddies.

Re: Are you a real Coach or a Daddy Coach?

anon
Hockey Hack
If the last competitive hockey game you played was when you were the same age as the players you are coaching, you just may be a Daddy Coach.

If your pre-game warm up drills consist of two players in motion and 13 standing around, you could be a Daddy Coach.

If you are unable to demonstrate the skating drills and edge work you are asking of your players, you're probably a Daddy Coach.

If you find yourself so caught up in the action of the hockey game that your over extended shifts regularly result in goals against, you're most likely a Daddy Coach.

If your coaching vocabulary primarily consists of phrases like "skate, skate, skate", and "pass, pass, pass," and "shoot, shoot, shoot", you are a Daddy Coach.

If you look forward to the team lunch at the local Italian joint in between tournament games and then surprised that your team's play was flat and lethargic, you're definitely a Daddy Coach.

If you are doing the same five drills at the end of the season as you did at the beginning of the season, you're a lazy Daddy Coach.

If you have not had a one-on-one mid-season meeting or provided any meaningful feedback to each individual player on what they need to specifically work on to improve, you're a clueless Daddy Coach.

If you rely on the individual skills of a few impact players to win games during the season, and can't understand why your team does not improve year after year, you're an ignorant Daddy Coach.

If you realize after coaching the same players for several years that they are not really developing and the team is not advancing, but you're reluctant to step down because next year is your free ride to the "big tournament", you are the MacDaddy of Daddy Coaches.


If you took the time to type this entire post you are definitely a parent who is afraid of their own shadow, never put on skates and kisses the Daddy Coach' a$$.
Go get your shine-box loser.


Ahhhhhh, another daddy coach with hurt feelings cuz the words ring true. Just embrace the truth pal.

Re: Are you a real Coach or a Daddy Coach?

Exactly what instrument did you play in your high school band?

Re: Are you a real Coach or a Daddy Coach?

Most daddy coaches are in it for their kids. Very few actually can coach the game and care about every player on the team. Good daddy coaches are in a no-win situation. If they actually coach the kids parents only see them as a parent vs a coach. Unfortunately favoritism to the coaches kid, who is usually one of the worst players on the team, runs rampant through the Boston hockey scene.

Re: Are you a real Coach or a Daddy Coach?

The daddy coaches always blame it on the parents

Re: Are you a real Coach or a Daddy Coach?

The daddy coaches always blame it on the parents

Re: Are you a real Coach or a Daddy Coach?

Love this debate.I am a coach with a kid on the team and my wife is a school teacher.We are the most blamed people on earth.

Re: Are you a real Coach or a Daddy Coach?

Let's get the violin out. Question is, are you a real coach or not? Is your kid the worst player on the team or the best? Do you treat him the same way as others? Would he legitimately make the team if you weren't coaching? Do you select his friends or kids he likes, or parents kids who you coach or drink with over new kids? Do you really develop hockey players or open a door? Have you progressed players to a higher level from the one you're currently coaching at?

Sounds like you're a typical daddy Coach.

Re: Are you a real Coach or a Daddy Coach?

i am curious to know if half of the whiners on this board actually do anything besides complain anonymously or do you actually try and do something about it? If you know your kid is playing for a daddy coach why do you stay? There are about 50 organizations in the greater Boston area. surly there are enough spots on tier one white rosters for your benders.

Re: Are you a real Coach or a Daddy Coach?

I'll say it again, since somebody else just brought it up: don't complain about the coach that you chose. Do a better job of finding a coach that you like next year. Do your due diligence, even if it means having some difficult, man-to-man (not email) conversations. Do what's right for your kid, don't just settle then come on here knocking guys that are giving up a significant amount of their time to coach.

Re: Are you a real Coach or a Daddy Coach?

Can anyone give an organization that has a coach that:
Is not a dad of a kid on the team?
Plans out the year with goals and objectives?
Builds practice plans centered around improving the team?
Helps develop bottom third?
Balances wins/loss with opportunities for the kids to build confidence?

Love to hear the organization that has that coach.

Re: Are you a real Coach or a Daddy Coach?

Anon
Let's get the violin out. Question is, are you a real coach or not? Is your kid the worst player on the team or the best? Do you treat him the same way as others? Would he legitimately make the team if you weren't coaching? Do you select his friends or kids he likes, or parents kids who you coach or drink with over new kids? Do you really develop hockey players or open a door? Have you progressed players to a higher level from the one you're currently coaching at?

Sounds like you're a typical daddy Coach.

1.Real coach 2.My son is the best on the team 3. harder on him than most 4.Yes
5.No 6.Develop 7.Yes...so GFY Dad!