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Re: USPHL Youth

Anon
After reading up on it, it looks like it's going to happen one way or another. Either USA Hockey will reverse its decision on appeal, or the USPHL will just leave USA Hockey entirely. Makes you wonder what USA Hockey is thinking. Why would they deny more free-to-play opportunities at the junior level? There's too many crap pay-to-play leagues now, why not deny them?


Probably has more to do with how they figure they are going to make it as free-to-play. Their financial projections probably don't work out. They don't want to start a whole new league just to have it fold because the teams can't support themselves.

Re: USPHL Youth

Anon
Anon
After reading up on it, it looks like it's going to happen one way or another. Either USA Hockey will reverse its decision on appeal, or the USPHL will just leave USA Hockey entirely. Makes you wonder what USA Hockey is thinking. Why would they deny more free-to-play opportunities at the junior level? There's too many crap pay-to-play leagues now, why not deny them?


Probably has more to do with how they figure they are going to make it as free-to-play. Their financial projections probably don't work out. They don't want to start a whole new league just to have it fold because the teams can't support themselves.


Yep!, There is a big difference between starting a league and a league ongoing sustainability.

Re: USPHL Youth

These owners are wealthy because they are smart businessmen! Obviously a gate would be negligible and maybe a few extra bucks from marketing/ advertising. Charge every other player an extra $300 +/- a year playing Tier 1 youth with the goal of playing Tier 2 Jr's down the road. It is a no brainer! Parents are already spending $5k a year ( min per player) on teams, travel, skills, etc. What is another few hundred a year with that kind of dangling carrot.

Seems fishy to me.

Re: USPHL Youth

they got denied because they would not meet all the requirements. Like you need to take a bus at the tier 2 level. USPHL teams objected to this because of how close rinks are and it is $1000 per game for the bus. How much billet the charge can be was an issue. also some others.

Re: USPHL Youth

anon
they got denied because they would not meet all the requirements. Like you need to take a bus at the tier 2 level. USPHL teams objected to this because of how close rinks are and it is $1000 per game for the bus. How much billet the charge can be was an issue. also some others.


Buy a couple mini buses ( Great Advertising!) $35k each, Billet fees? Puhlease...

What were the other issues? Common, It makes too much sense to have a Tier 2 League in area where we have the players and the colleges that they will matriculate to.

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Because it's not a sustainable business model. The league would fold. Cannot fund through youth programs because people are not willing to pay more so older kids can play for free. Too many other options out there now. The end of the day it was a flawed model from the get-go and USA hockey will not let this happen.

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But elite hockey is watered down with tuition players. Need this league to work so i can tell everyone that my kid is premier which is better than elite which is better than select which is better than town.

Re: USPHL Youth

Anon
Because it's not a sustainable business model. The league would fold. Cannot fund through youth programs because people are not willing to pay more so older kids can play for free. Too many other options out there now. The end of the day it was a flawed model from the get-go and USA hockey will not let this happen.


The stronger programs are going to buy out or force the smaller programs to fold! It is earily similar to the Big Box stores force the mom and pops to fold. It is already happening and it is good for all.

Instead of playing on the River Hawks 1st or 2nd team, you will have a chance on playing on the Islanders 1st or 2nd team. If it doesn't happen you will have the lower level teams to fall back on but will have similar or same resources as the higher level teams ( And the Gear _ don't kid yourself- It matters )

In the end you will pay a little more...So what!! With all of the money we spend on hockey for our kids, a few hundred more is not going to create some sort of Exodus. Besides it is going to become a monopoly and the clear path to Tier 2 Jr Hockey, which now will become the preferred path to college. They will not charge a gate or perhaps will charge for a season league pass for families to come watch their kids play ( home or away). Will help defer league costs! We already pay gate fees to watch or kids play summer hockey, why wouldn't we be willing to pay a few hundred to see our kids play free jr hockey??

The previous poster either has grown kids or is in denial. Either way it is going to happen and will mostly be positive. IMHO.

Re: USPHL Youth

anon
anon
USPHL application for Tier II was denied by USA Hockey. So business as usual next season or do they not take no for an answer...


Hopefully, they push forward anyway. All of these East Coast players have to go out to the midwest for a year or two just to come back to play college hockey out east. F Them. I would like to hear their reasoning for denying the application that was asking for an opportunity to be heard!


Well the USHL can have nightly paying gate of 3,000 - 5,000 which no one on the east coast will be able to do. That is enough 'reasoning' for me.