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Re: TSH at UVM

All top 03's at TPE event at Merrimack

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Not sure about all top, but definitely a good group. Al checks cleared so, go hockey!

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Seriously, don't you people ever let your kids rest? Your kids must hate you or the sport by now.

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The Chase the Dream parents and the hands in the pockets hucksters is the reason the development of players in this region continues the decline.

Kids playing 52 weeks year, "Combines", "Super Skills", idiotic Spring money grab tourneys. Dopes..

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Too funny!!!! Surely there must be lots of studs from Quebec, Western Canada and Minnesota....

None??? Really???

Parents.... the sooner you all wake up and realize this is nothing more than a business and focus on the right things (grades) the better chance you're kids will have of making it in life.

Start by educating yourselves! Apparently there's much more work to be done in that dept. after reading icehockeydb!

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No money grab...Actually sat and listened to David Quinn (BU), Bill Powers (Michigan),Greg Brown(BC),Paul Pearl (Harvard),Mark Denahey (Merrimack),US Devt team director talk about development and expectations as part of this weekend agenda. Worth the $ alone

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Wow. Lots of hands in that pot. YouTube it for nothing??

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But it's called Total Pro Evaluation!

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Fitzgerald pulls in about $10K for a weekend. Not bad work if you can get.

When you have an seemingly endless supply of suckers at your disposal, it's like shooting fish in a barrel

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Only guy to get the real hockey people in one room for a discussion.

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He does get real hockey people. no doubt.

However, 97% of the kids at this have no shot of playing at BU, BC, Harvard, etc. The other 3% certainly don't need this event to be seen as a 11/12/13 year old.

As long as those 97% keep playing the freight for these types of things, pockets keep getting lined and most kids don't get developed, cause that's not the goal. The goal is to sucker parents into thinking their little Johnny is "Elite" cause Dave Quinn is here to see him as an 11 year old.

It's a beautiful business model. Endless starving pent up demand with delivering just enough value to make them feel good. It's the youth hockey model for New England. Tried and true.

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So there was 4 of these this weekend? 1 at UVM and 1 at Merrimack? Dont forget the Prospects started this weekend, and there was an event at Marlboro. We even got an invite to the Pacific Showcase this weekend. Glad to see we have so many Elite 14/15/16 year olds here in the area.

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anon
He does get real hockey people. no doubt.

However, 97% of the kids at this have no shot of playing at BU, BC, Harvard, etc. The other 3% certainly don't need this event to be seen as a 11/12/13 year old.

As long as those 97% keep playing the freight for these types of things, pockets keep getting lined and most kids don't get developed, cause that's not the goal. The goal is to sucker parents into thinking their little Johnny is "Elite" cause Dave Quinn is here to see him as an 11 year old.

It's a beautiful business model. Endless starving bent up demand with delivering just enough value to make them feel good. It's the youth hockey model for New England. Tried and true.


We have a bingo! Couldn't have said it better my self.

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Aanon
anon
He does get real hockey people. no doubt.

However, 97% of the kids at this have no shot of playing at BU, BC, Harvard, etc. The other 3% certainly don't need this event to be seen as a 11/12/13 year old.

As long as those 97% keep playing the freight for these types of things, pockets keep getting lined and most kids don't get developed, cause that's not the goal. The goal is to sucker parents into thinking their little Johnny is "Elite" cause Dave Quinn is here to see him as an 11 year old.

It's a beautiful business model. Endless starving bent up demand with delivering just enough value to make them feel good. It's the youth hockey model for New England. Tried and true.


We have a bingo! Couldn't have said it better my self.
So what? Why does anyone care - in a negative way - that someone is making a living at hockey? Maybe it's because you can't imagine making $10,000 in a weekend (which isn't accurate, who knows how many hours and $$$ it takes to set all this up)?

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Anon
Aanon
anon
He does get real hockey people. no doubt.

However, 97% of the kids at this have no shot of playing at BU, BC, Harvard, etc. The other 3% certainly don't need this event to be seen as a 11/12/13 year old.

As long as those 97% keep playing the freight for these types of things, pockets keep getting lined and most kids don't get developed, cause that's not the goal. The goal is to sucker parents into thinking their little Johnny is "Elite" cause Dave Quinn is here to see him as an 11 year old.

It's a beautiful business model. Endless starving bent up demand with delivering just enough value to make them feel good. It's the youth hockey model for New England. Tried and true.


We have a bingo! Couldn't have said it better my self.
So what? Why does anyone care - in a negative way - that someone is making a living at hockey? Maybe it's because you can't imagine making $10,000 in a weekend (which isn't accurate, who knows how many hours and $$$ it takes to set all this up)?


Because they are kids. You dont F$%^ with kids and thats what all of these guys are doing and yet some parents open the checkbook with a smile. Society for some reason gives these guys a pass when all they are doing is exploiting kids and families with false hopes and lies. Take a look at all of the kids from just this weekend camps, how many are going to make their varsity high school team, or are mature enough right now to walk onto a varsity prep team. The answer is very few. The other 98% will play next year with their own age group just as they have always done, so what did these camps provide for your son this weekend? "A chance to play against some really good hockey players" if that is your answer then you are just trying to justify the fact that you feel right into the trap.
When anyone in their early 40's played, you played town, then if you were good enough you played on a district selects team, then either your high school or the former EJHL. If you were really good, you got invited to the HNIB tournament.
Not everyone got a trophy, and that was ok. Now, theses guys start these "camps" and pay for some coaches to come in to run skills or stand behind the bench and give a 1 hour talk, which means absolutely nothing. Sad state of affairs we have going on right now.

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anon
Anon
Aanon
anon
He does get real hockey people. no doubt.

However, 97% of the kids at this have no shot of playing at BU, BC, Harvard, etc. The other 3% certainly don't need this event to be seen as a 11/12/13 year old.

As long as those 97% keep playing the freight for these types of things, pockets keep getting lined and most kids don't get developed, cause that's not the goal. The goal is to sucker parents into thinking their little Johnny is "Elite" cause Dave Quinn is here to see him as an 11 year old.

It's a beautiful business model. Endless starving bent up demand with delivering just enough value to make them feel good. It's the youth hockey model for New England. Tried and true.


We have a bingo! Couldn't have said it better my self.
So what? Why does anyone care - in a negative way - that someone is making a living at hockey? Maybe it's because you can't imagine making $10,000 in a weekend (which isn't accurate, who knows how many hours and $$$ it takes to set all this up)?


Because they are kids. You dont F$%^ with kids and thats what all of these guys are doing and yet some parents open the checkbook with a smile. Society for some reason gives these guys a pass when all they are doing is exploiting kids and families with false hopes and lies. Take a look at all of the kids from just this weekend camps, how many are going to make their varsity high school team, or are mature enough right now to walk onto a varsity prep team. The answer is very few. The other 98% will play next year with their own age group just as they have always done, so what did these camps provide for your son this weekend? "A chance to play against some really good hockey players" if that is your answer then you are just trying to justify the fact that you feel right into the trap.
When anyone in their early 40's played, you played town, then if you were good enough you played on a district selects team, then either your high school or the former EJHL. If you were really good, you got invited to the HNIB tournament.
Not everyone got a trophy, and that was ok. Now, theses guys start these "camps" and pay for some coaches to come in to run skills or stand behind the bench and give a 1 hour talk, which means absolutely nothing. Sad state of affairs we have going on right now.


In MN they concentrate on skills, community and playing for the love of the game. They dream to play for their high school team and someday for the university. They have it correct and the put out far more skilled players than we do.

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anon
In MN they concentrate on skills, community and playing for the love of the game. They dream to play for their high school team and someday for the university. They have it correct and the put out far more skilled players than we do.
Yeah, right. Have you BEEN to Minnesota? Talked with parents? They have the same dreams and aspirations, just follow a different model. Kids are kids, parents are parents. Everywhere.

now, if you want to talk about Scandinavian teams, we can had a dialogue about differences.

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Anon
anon
In MN they concentrate on skills, community and playing for the love of the game. They dream to play for their high school team and someday for the university. They have it correct and the put out far more skilled players than we do.
Yeah, right. Have you BEEN to Minnesota? Talked with parents? They have the same dreams and aspirations, just follow a different model. Kids are kids, parents are parents. Everywhere.

now, if you want to talk about Scandinavian teams, we can had a dialogue about differences.


Talked with parents? They have the same dreams and aspirations, just follow a different model.

Nobody said anything about being a dream thief! I said they all dream of playing at a higher level. The point is that they value skill development ( as do the Scandinavians, who no surprise share the same geneology!!) over writing checks to play at some non event camp hoping to be seen.

Typical M******* response! Totally missing the point.

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The select hockey model in the area is a giant Ponzi Scheme, with the owners "Selling the Dream" on the backs of the kids, with few if any kids ever seeing a return on that investment. And for those who are so paralyzed by the fear of "killing the dream" that they throw their kid in every skills, tourney or summer program they can find, be honest with yourself. The only dream you'll be killing by passing on these boondoggles is your own.

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Anon
The select hockey model in the area is a giant Ponzi Scheme, with the owners "Selling the Dream" on the backs of the kids, with few if any kids ever seeing a return on that investment. And for those who are so paralyzed by the fear of "killing the dream" that they throw their kid in every skills, tourney or summer program they can find, be honest with yourself. The only dream you'll be killing by passing on these boondoggles is your own.


Its ok to dream! Its ok to work hard, be dedicated, sacrifice, believe in yourself. The issue is they focus on tournaments and "Being Seen" Foolish!

Train, Skate, Skills. A few tournaments to stay sharp. Don't worry about being seen. If you are good, they will find you.

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Anon
The select hockey model in the area is a giant Ponzi Scheme, with the owners "Selling the Dream" on the backs of the kids, with few if any kids ever seeing a return on that investment. And for those who are so paralyzed by the fear of "killing the dream" that they throw their kid in every skills, tourney or summer program they can find, be honest with yourself. The only dream you'll be killing by passing on these boondoggles is your own.
Then why blame the organizers? It's been that way for 1,000 years.

I lost $60 I didn't have to **** away when I was 19 to a Three Card Monte game on Broadway in NYC. I learned from that.

Take a look at the monstrous complexes casinos build. Why, exactly, do you think that is?

Grow up. Let people decide for themselves how to spend their own money.

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Anon
Anon
The select hockey model in the area is a giant Ponzi Scheme, with the owners "Selling the Dream" on the backs of the kids, with few if any kids ever seeing a return on that investment. And for those who are so paralyzed by the fear of "killing the dream" that they throw their kid in every skills, tourney or summer program they can find, be honest with yourself. The only dream you'll be killing by passing on these boondoggles is your own.
Then why blame the organizers? It's been that way for 1,000 years.

I lost $60 I didn't have to **** away when I was 19 to a Three Card Monte game on Broadway in NYC. I learned from that.

Take a look at the monstrous complexes casinos build. Why, exactly, do you think that is?

Grow up. Let people decide for themselves how to spend their own money.


Full ice Non-USA hockey sanctioned Mite programs when all evidence show small ice is far more conducive to learning skills, adding 3-4 teams per age group regardless of talent level or quality coaching to maximize profit, owners highering themselves or their friends to run sub-par skills...how can you not blame the organizers. And to the guy with a gambling problem, spend all the money you want, but remember it's not about you, it's about your kid. It's OK to say no once in a while.

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Wow, great points being made on this thread. I like it. If it wasn't all about the money then why five teams in the 04 division? This is an event that screams for an even number of teams, just assinine to add a fifth but I guess they couldn't get enough for six?

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Anon
Wow, great points being made on this thread. I like it. If it wasn't all about the money then why five teams in the 04 division? This is an event that screams for an even number of teams, just assinine to add a fifth but I guess they couldn't get enough for six?


I'm sure they'd field 10,11 or 12 teams if they could, but for many folks, this weekend was supposed to be the start of the baseball and lacrosse AAU seasons. Also money grabs, but at least they haven't hit the absurdity levels of select hockey in this area as of yet. Not to mention it gets the kids outside and working on complementary skills in sports they may have a realistic chance of actually playing in and maybe after high school.

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Good read. Too bad youth hockey is just another sport ruined by greed, it use to be fun.

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‘A+’ Forwards

Anthony Agostinelli, #14 Flyers, Left Shot, Rochester Monarchs - He had good size and was tough to knock off pucks. He had slick hands for a player of his size and was able to create offense as a set-up guy and as a finisher.

Tyler Boucher, #10 Canadiens, Right Shot, Team Virtua - He has a quick stick and was a good skater. His speed into the zone down the left wing started a scoring play. He also made a really nice pass to spring a teammate on a partial breakaway. He had a heavy shot as well.




Tim Delay, #10 Blackhawks, Right Shot, Eagles - He's a very good skater who had great agility. He created a lot of chances in transition by using his speed. He scored a nice backhand goal off a deke where he had the goalie leaning the wrong way.

Dylan Duke, #8 Flyers, Left Shot, Belle Tire - He has the makings of a really good possession forward who can create offense from anywhere. He had elite feet and hands. His puck skills were very good. He made a nifty centering feed on his team's second goal on Sunday. He also made a nice low to high pass from down below his attacking goal line.

Shawn O'Donnell, #15 Rangers, Left Shot, Penguins - He had good hands around the net. He scored on a tip-in goal and then finishing off a play with a quick shot on top of the crease. He finds seams in the opposition's defense. He's around the puck and in good position more times than not. He has that extra gear, competed hard and was physical for his size.

Ryan St. Louis, #9 Red Wings, Left Shot, Mid-Fairfield - He's an elite skater with tremendous speed and hands. He makes plays. He has a nose for the puck. He made a great move for a breakaway goal, accelerating past the defense and shielding the puck with his body. He made another slick move down the right wing, turning to feed a open teammate while still on the move. He was the best forward here. He's the son of UVM legend and retired NHL star Marty St. Louis.

‘A’ Forwards

Matt Brille, #9 Blackhawks, Right Shot, Team Maryland - He was strong, absorbed a hit to make a play and played the game the right way.

Davis Burnside, #15 Bruins, Right Shot, Chicago Mission - He was the best player on his team here. He protected the puck, was a strong skater and had good vision. His agility and straight line speed were both impressive. He made a few nice plays where he was able to pull up, stop and find an open line mate.

Kenny Connors, #11 Blackhawks, Left Shot, Team Virtua - He had a great motor and his puck pursuit was notable. He has good feet and creates chances with his energy.

Jackson Cuoto, #12 Canadiens, Right Shot, Minuteman Flames - He consistently used his speed and high motor to make plays and impact the game.

Jack Hughes, #8 Red Wings, Left Shot, Eagles - He had good hands and vision. He made a couple of really nice looks from the wall to find open teammates. He skates well and has some signs of becoming a good player.

Colby Saganiuk, #15 Red Wings, Right Shot, Chicago Mission - He had quick hands and good speed.

‘B’ Forwards

David Chen, #9 Canadiens, Right Shot, NJ Colonials - He was small, but quick and crafty with a good stick.

Liam Gilmartin, #11 Red Wings, Left Shot, Washington Little Caps - He was good down low and had a heavy shot.

Vinny Gould, #15 Red Wings, Right Shot, Terriers - He's a big strong kid who had good hands around the net, especially for someone his size.

Jayden Grier, #17 Red Wings, Left Shot, Terriers - He's small, but fast and played with a lot of energy.

Michael Hurst, #14 Rangers, Right Shot, Penguins - His speed and quickness were his two biggest strengths and the reason he was able to generate offense.

Matt McGoarty, #8 Rangers, Right Shot, Mid Fairfield - He had a powerful stride and good size.

Danny Minnehan, #12 Red Wings, Left Shot, LA Kings - He had slick hands and scored a nice goal, sniping a shot right below the bar.

CJ Monturio, #14 Canadiens, Right Shot, Terriers - He showed good speed and an ability to create offense.

Jackson Morehouse, #10 Flyers, Right Shot, Penguins - He went to the net and scored on a rebound and a pass by driving the far post.

Jaiden Moriello, #11 Canadiens, Right Shot, Islanders - He had a knack for being around the puck and getting to positions to get chances.

Jayden Sison, #11 Bruins, Right Shot, Team Virtua - He had good vision and decent hands. He made a nice pass out front for a scoring chance from in back of his attacking net.

Jack Slayton, #17 Canadiens, Right Shot, NJ Colonials - He made a beauty of a finish on a two-on-one odd man rush.

J.P. Turner, #16 Rangers, Right Shot, Terriers - He had good size and showed signs of blossoming into a solid north-south type forward.

Jeremy Wilmer, #12 Blackhawks, Left Shot, LI Gulls - He's a small, crafty forward who had a few really good shifts. He's already being courted by several Hockey East and ECAC schools.

Cully Wilson, #9 Rangers, Left Shot, Boston Advantage - He thinks the game well and was a strong skater.

‘A’++ Defensemen

Dylan Gratton, #5 Blackhawks, Left Shot, NJ Avalanche - He was the best prospect here. His composure in all three zones was truly impressive. He moved the puck with precision. He skated well. He had his head up and made good passes. He had a good stick and was able to process the game. He made some nifty plays with the puck, both with his stick and skating it.

Aiden Hreschuck, #6 Flyers, Left Shot, LA Kings - He was very, very good. His skating and how he thought the game were both absolutely tremendous. He stepped up and made plays. He knew when to pick his spots. He created goals from his play on the blue line. He had good gaps and a good stick.

‘A’ Defensemen

Joe Fleming, #4 Rangers, Right Shot, Eagles - He's a mobile, puck-mover. He has a good stick going back and was the best defender on his team.

Nolan Joyce, #4 Canadiens, Right Shot, Eagles - He was a mobile defender who competed and grinded when retrieving pucks. He had a really good one-timer and had good footwork overall.

Davis Kinne, #2 Canadiens, Right Shot, Islanders - He had good size and skated well. He was able to hop into the offense and move the puck in transition with his feet.

Carter Schade, #2 Bruins, Left Shot, Penguins - He was very good with the puck on his stick, making plays in transit and in his attacking zone. His footwork was above average and he had good vision.

‘B’ Defensemen

Shai Buium, #5 Canadiens, Left Shot, LA Kings - He has good size and played some forward here as well. He was active, liked to join the rush and had reach.

Nick Donaldson, #2 Blackhawks, Right Shot, Mid Fairfield - He was very good in his own end, riding a few opposing forwards into the wall. He was good positionally in his own zone.

Tyler Duke, #7 Flyers, Left Shot, Belle Tire - He was a little on the smaller side, but he was a good skater from the back end.

Will Elias, #3 Canadiens, Right Shot, Eagles - He was a good skater who liked to join the rush. He had good recovery speed and could close. He was good on breakouts.

Brendan Fitzgerald, #2 Flyers, Left Shot, Islanders - He read plays well, stepping up and intercepting passes and knowing when to pinch. He showed off his vision with a nice pass to the backdoor from the left point.

Jake Geraci, #3 Red Wings, Right Shot, Mid Fairfield - He wasn't flashy, but he was efficient. He made a solid play defensively on another team's top player.

Will Killoran, #4 Flyers Right Shot, Eagles - His size and reach were intriguing.

Patrick Morrisey, #3 Rangers, Right Shot, Terriers - He had vision, size and feet that were noticeable.

Tyler Procious, #5 Flyers, Right Shot, Rochester Monarchs - He took good angles and made nice breakout passes.

Chase Ramsay, #3 Flyers, Right Shot, Westchester Express - He made a good pokecheck to push the puck out of his defensive zone and was an above average skater.

Nick Roukounakis, #5 Red Wings, Left Shot, Eagles - He's a rugged defender who kept the possession going forward and did a nice job pinching.

Nick Wallace, #5 Rangers, Left Shot, NJ Colonials - He had above average mobility and was physical for his size.

'B' Goaltenders

Conor Callaghan, #31 Bruins, Catches Left, Mid Fairfield - He's a competition in the crease and does a good job on his rebound control and covering up loose pucks.

Brett Cleaves, #30 Flyers, Catches Left, NJ Devils - He moved well in net and made a couple good post-to-post saves.

Thomas Heaney, #30 Blackhawks, Catches Left, NJ Colonials - He had good size, moved well and solid fundamentals.

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If this was from the event this weekend, take note that this was in our back yard, and only 17 of the 47 kids mentioned are from this area.

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posted today on SBCollegehockey

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Aanon
‘A+’ Forwards

Anthony Agostinelli, #14 Flyers, Left Shot, Rochester Monarchs - He had good size and was tough to knock off pucks. He had slick hands for a player of his size and was able to create offense as a set-up guy and as a finisher.

Tyler Boucher, #10 Canadiens, Right Shot, Team Virtua - He has a quick stick and was a good skater. His speed into the zone down the left wing started a scoring play. He also made a really nice pass to spring a teammate on a partial breakaway. He had a heavy shot as well.




Tim Delay, #10 Blackhawks, Right Shot, Eagles - He's a very good skater who had great agility. He created a lot of chances in transition by using his speed. He scored a nice backhand goal off a deke where he had the goalie leaning the wrong way.

Dylan Duke, #8 Flyers, Left Shot, Belle Tire - He has the makings of a really good possession forward who can create offense from anywhere. He had elite feet and hands. His puck skills were very good. He made a nifty centering feed on his team's second goal on Sunday. He also made a nice low to high pass from down below his attacking goal line.

Shawn O'Donnell, #15 Rangers, Left Shot, Penguins - He had good hands around the net. He scored on a tip-in goal and then finishing off a play with a quick shot on top of the crease. He finds seams in the opposition's defense. He's around the puck and in good position more times than not. He has that extra gear, competed hard and was physical for his size.

Ryan St. Louis, #9 Red Wings, Left Shot, Mid-Fairfield - He's an elite skater with tremendous speed and hands. He makes plays. He has a nose for the puck. He made a great move for a breakaway goal, accelerating past the defense and shielding the puck with his body. He made another slick move down the right wing, turning to feed a open teammate while still on the move. He was the best forward here. He's the son of UVM legend and retired NHL star Marty St. Louis.

‘A’ Forwards

Matt Brille, #9 Blackhawks, Right Shot, Team Maryland - He was strong, absorbed a hit to make a play and played the game the right way.

Davis Burnside, #15 Bruins, Right Shot, Chicago Mission - He was the best player on his team here. He protected the puck, was a strong skater and had good vision. His agility and straight line speed were both impressive. He made a few nice plays where he was able to pull up, stop and find an open line mate.

Kenny Connors, #11 Blackhawks, Left Shot, Team Virtua - He had a great motor and his puck pursuit was notable. He has good feet and creates chances with his energy.

Jackson Cuoto, #12 Canadiens, Right Shot, Minuteman Flames - He consistently used his speed and high motor to make plays and impact the game.

Jack Hughes, #8 Red Wings, Left Shot, Eagles - He had good hands and vision. He made a couple of really nice looks from the wall to find open teammates. He skates well and has some signs of becoming a good player.

Colby Saganiuk, #15 Red Wings, Right Shot, Chicago Mission - He had quick hands and good speed.

‘B’ Forwards

David Chen, #9 Canadiens, Right Shot, NJ Colonials - He was small, but quick and crafty with a good stick.

Liam Gilmartin, #11 Red Wings, Left Shot, Washington Little Caps - He was good down low and had a heavy shot.

Vinny Gould, #15 Red Wings, Right Shot, Terriers - He's a big strong kid who had good hands around the net, especially for someone his size.

Jayden Grier, #17 Red Wings, Left Shot, Terriers - He's small, but fast and played with a lot of energy.

Michael Hurst, #14 Rangers, Right Shot, Penguins - His speed and quickness were his two biggest strengths and the reason he was able to generate offense.

Matt McGoarty, #8 Rangers, Right Shot, Mid Fairfield - He had a powerful stride and good size.

Danny Minnehan, #12 Red Wings, Left Shot, LA Kings - He had slick hands and scored a nice goal, sniping a shot right below the bar.

CJ Monturio, #14 Canadiens, Right Shot, Terriers - He showed good speed and an ability to create offense.

Jackson Morehouse, #10 Flyers, Right Shot, Penguins - He went to the net and scored on a rebound and a pass by driving the far post.

Jaiden Moriello, #11 Canadiens, Right Shot, Islanders - He had a knack for being around the puck and getting to positions to get chances.

Jayden Sison, #11 Bruins, Right Shot, Team Virtua - He had good vision and decent hands. He made a nice pass out front for a scoring chance from in back of his attacking net.

Jack Slayton, #17 Canadiens, Right Shot, NJ Colonials - He made a beauty of a finish on a two-on-one odd man rush.

J.P. Turner, #16 Rangers, Right Shot, Terriers - He had good size and showed signs of blossoming into a solid north-south type forward.

Jeremy Wilmer, #12 Blackhawks, Left Shot, LI Gulls - He's a small, crafty forward who had a few really good shifts. He's already being courted by several Hockey East and ECAC schools.

Cully Wilson, #9 Rangers, Left Shot, Boston Advantage - He thinks the game well and was a strong skater.

‘A’++ Defensemen

Dylan Gratton, #5 Blackhawks, Left Shot, NJ Avalanche - He was the best prospect here. His composure in all three zones was truly impressive. He moved the puck with precision. He skated well. He had his head up and made good passes. He had a good stick and was able to process the game. He made some nifty plays with the puck, both with his stick and skating it.

Aiden Hreschuck, #6 Flyers, Left Shot, LA Kings - He was very, very good. His skating and how he thought the game were both absolutely tremendous. He stepped up and made plays. He knew when to pick his spots. He created goals from his play on the blue line. He had good gaps and a good stick.

‘A’ Defensemen

Joe Fleming, #4 Rangers, Right Shot, Eagles - He's a mobile, puck-mover. He has a good stick going back and was the best defender on his team.

Nolan Joyce, #4 Canadiens, Right Shot, Eagles - He was a mobile defender who competed and grinded when retrieving pucks. He had a really good one-timer and had good footwork overall.

Davis Kinne, #2 Canadiens, Right Shot, Islanders - He had good size and skated well. He was able to hop into the offense and move the puck in transition with his feet.

Carter Schade, #2 Bruins, Left Shot, Penguins - He was very good with the puck on his stick, making plays in transit and in his attacking zone. His footwork was above average and he had good vision.

‘B’ Defensemen

Shai Buium, #5 Canadiens, Left Shot, LA Kings - He has good size and played some forward here as well. He was active, liked to join the rush and had reach.

Nick Donaldson, #2 Blackhawks, Right Shot, Mid Fairfield - He was very good in his own end, riding a few opposing forwards into the wall. He was good positionally in his own zone.

Tyler Duke, #7 Flyers, Left Shot, Belle Tire - He was a little on the smaller side, but he was a good skater from the back end.

Will Elias, #3 Canadiens, Right Shot, Eagles - He was a good skater who liked to join the rush. He had good recovery speed and could close. He was good on breakouts.

Brendan Fitzgerald, #2 Flyers, Left Shot, Islanders - He read plays well, stepping up and intercepting passes and knowing when to pinch. He showed off his vision with a nice pass to the backdoor from the left point.

Jake Geraci, #3 Red Wings, Right Shot, Mid Fairfield - He wasn't flashy, but he was efficient. He made a solid play defensively on another team's top player.

Will Killoran, #4 Flyers Right Shot, Eagles - His size and reach were intriguing.

Patrick Morrisey, #3 Rangers, Right Shot, Terriers - He had vision, size and feet that were noticeable.

Tyler Procious, #5 Flyers, Right Shot, Rochester Monarchs - He took good angles and made nice breakout passes.

Chase Ramsay, #3 Flyers, Right Shot, Westchester Express - He made a good pokecheck to push the puck out of his defensive zone and was an above average skater.

Nick Roukounakis, #5 Red Wings, Left Shot, Eagles - He's a rugged defender who kept the possession going forward and did a nice job pinching.

Nick Wallace, #5 Rangers, Left Shot, NJ Colonials - He had above average mobility and was physical for his size.

'B' Goaltenders

Conor Callaghan, #31 Bruins, Catches Left, Mid Fairfield - He's a competition in the crease and does a good job on his rebound control and covering up loose pucks.

Brett Cleaves, #30 Flyers, Catches Left, NJ Devils - He moved well in net and made a couple good post-to-post saves.

Thomas Heaney, #30 Blackhawks, Catches Left, NJ Colonials - He had good size, moved well and solid fundamentals.

Does it make sense to "rank" players in a skate that they paid to be in? Do they rank the 05's also? This is crazy.

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These are 03s? 14 years old? Not even in HS yet? Someone spent a lot of time writing this up. For what?

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How much did this thing cost? Not too hard or expensive to pay a hockey guy interested in a scouting career a few bucks out of the pie to write this up just built it into the cost of this thing, I'm sure Fitzgerald knows many ...we all know its earlier and earlier kids are being scouted, if my kid was towards the top of his age group I probably would have begrudgingly have him do it too...it's the new normal now, love it or hate it...I hate it

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The guy who wrote it does it for the older age groups as well. It's what he does for a living. I don't usually agree with his analysis and it's usually word of mouth from "Personal Advisors". Love it or hate it the 03's are going to start verbally committing to schools next fall. The Top 01's did it the fall of their U14 season two years ago. Same with the 02's last year. Come November you'll see the 03's start verbals. Colleges lock in the top kids at 14/15 based on future potential. Coaches know what they're looking at and the first wave of 03's is only a matter of time. Just have to deal with it.

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yes, the top top kids will start to commit. But the vast majority of these kids will have 4 years of high school/prep and a year or two of juniors - a good 5 or 6 additional years of development before they set foot on a college campus. Lot of things can happen in 5/6 years - for better or for worse. Don't be too worked up if you're 115lb 03 didnt make the list or get an invite.

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We had the invite but my son had to finish a science project. You know, the things that 8th graders have to do. Can he get an honorable mention on the "rankings"?

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We had the invite but my son had to finish a science project. You know, the things that 8th graders have to do. Can he get an honorable mention on the "rankings"?


Sure. I'll give him a AAA. And you sir or madam an AAAA++++ for saving your hard earned money and focusing on what's really important.

Hey..... at the end of the day, this is America. The guy who set it up and the community college guy who made sure he got all of the NHL guys kids written up thoroughly, are the smartest of the bunch. Kudos to both of you and to all who had their hands in the pockets of these parents this weekend. Nice little job if you can find it. Carry on, there's a whole fresh crop of consumers coming in right behind them...$ in hand!

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Someone's angry

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Shoddy reporting. Where is the 05 write up!! they're only 6 years away from the NHL draft

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'B' Goaltenders

Better than no write up at all I guess??

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Imagine coming across the country and your kid not making the list at all..What a kick in the balls.

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They ain't called 'crazy hockey parents' for nuttin! Can't wait for these young stars to be draft eligible. Safe travels everyone.

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‘A+’ Forwards

Anthony Agostinelli, #14 Flyers, Left Shot, Rochester Monarchs - He had good size and was tough to knock off pucks. He had slick hands for a player of his size and was able to create offense as a set-up guy and as a finisher.

Tyler Boucher, #10 Canadiens, Right Shot, Team Virtua - He has a quick stick and was a good skater. His speed into the zone down the left wing started a scoring play. He also made a really nice pass to spring a teammate on a partial breakaway. He had a heavy shot as well.




Tim Delay, #10 Blackhawks, Right Shot, Eagles - He's a very good skater who had great agility. He created a lot of chances in transition by using his speed. He scored a nice backhand goal off a deke where he had the goalie leaning the wrong way.

Dylan Duke, #8 Flyers, Left Shot, Belle Tire - He has the makings of a really good possession forward who can create offense from anywhere. He had elite feet and hands. His puck skills were very good. He made a nifty centering feed on his team's second goal on Sunday. He also made a nice low to high pass from down below his attacking goal line.

Shawn O'Donnell, #15 Rangers, Left Shot, Penguins - He had good hands around the net. He scored on a tip-in goal and then finishing off a play with a quick shot on top of the crease. He finds seams in the opposition's defense. He's around the puck and in good position more times than not. He has that extra gear, competed hard and was physical for his size.

Ryan St. Louis, #9 Red Wings, Left Shot, Mid-Fairfield - He's an elite skater with tremendous speed and hands. He makes plays. He has a nose for the puck. He made a great move for a breakaway goal, accelerating past the defense and shielding the puck with his body. He made another slick move down the right wing, turning to feed a open teammate while still on the move. He was the best forward here. He's the son of UVM legend and retired NHL star Marty St. Louis.

‘A’ Forwards

Matt Brille, #9 Blackhawks, Right Shot, Team Maryland - He was strong, absorbed a hit to make a play and played the game the right way.

Davis Burnside, #15 Bruins, Right Shot, Chicago Mission - He was the best player on his team here. He protected the puck, was a strong skater and had good vision. His agility and straight line speed were both impressive. He made a few nice plays where he was able to pull up, stop and find an open line mate.

Kenny Connors, #11 Blackhawks, Left Shot, Team Virtua - He had a great motor and his puck pursuit was notable. He has good feet and creates chances with his energy.

Jackson Cuoto, #12 Canadiens, Right Shot, Minuteman Flames - He consistently used his speed and high motor to make plays and impact the game.

Jack Hughes, #8 Red Wings, Left Shot, Eagles - He had good hands and vision. He made a couple of really nice looks from the wall to find open teammates. He skates well and has some signs of becoming a good player.

Colby Saganiuk, #15 Red Wings, Right Shot, Chicago Mission - He had quick hands and good speed.

‘B’ Forwards

David Chen, #9 Canadiens, Right Shot, NJ Colonials - He was small, but quick and crafty with a good stick.

Liam Gilmartin, #11 Red Wings, Left Shot, Washington Little Caps - He was good down low and had a heavy shot.

Vinny Gould, #15 Red Wings, Right Shot, Terriers - He's a big strong kid who had good hands around the net, especially for someone his size.

Jayden Grier, #17 Red Wings, Left Shot, Terriers - He's small, but fast and played with a lot of energy.

Michael Hurst, #14 Rangers, Right Shot, Penguins - His speed and quickness were his two biggest strengths and the reason he was able to generate offense.

Matt McGoarty, #8 Rangers, Right Shot, Mid Fairfield - He had a powerful stride and good size.

Danny Minnehan, #12 Red Wings, Left Shot, LA Kings - He had slick hands and scored a nice goal, sniping a shot right below the bar.

CJ Monturio, #14 Canadiens, Right Shot, Terriers - He showed good speed and an ability to create offense.

Jackson Morehouse, #10 Flyers, Right Shot, Penguins - He went to the net and scored on a rebound and a pass by driving the far post.

Jaiden Moriello, #11 Canadiens, Right Shot, Islanders - He had a knack for being around the puck and getting to positions to get chances.

Jayden Sison, #11 Bruins, Right Shot, Team Virtua - He had good vision and decent hands. He made a nice pass out front for a scoring chance from in back of his attacking net.

Jack Slayton, #17 Canadiens, Right Shot, NJ Colonials - He made a beauty of a finish on a two-on-one odd man rush.

J.P. Turner, #16 Rangers, Right Shot, Terriers - He had good size and showed signs of blossoming into a solid north-south type forward.

Jeremy Wilmer, #12 Blackhawks, Left Shot, LI Gulls - He's a small, crafty forward who had a few really good shifts. He's already being courted by several Hockey East and ECAC schools.

Cully Wilson, #9 Rangers, Left Shot, Boston Advantage - He thinks the game well and was a strong skater.

‘A’++ Defensemen

Dylan Gratton, #5 Blackhawks, Left Shot, NJ Avalanche - He was the best prospect here. His composure in all three zones was truly impressive. He moved the puck with precision. He skated well. He had his head up and made good passes. He had a good stick and was able to process the game. He made some nifty plays with the puck, both with his stick and skating it.

Aiden Hreschuck, #6 Flyers, Left Shot, LA Kings - He was very, very good. His skating and how he thought the game were both absolutely tremendous. He stepped up and made plays. He knew when to pick his spots. He created goals from his play on the blue line. He had good gaps and a good stick.

‘A’ Defensemen

Joe Fleming, #4 Rangers, Right Shot, Eagles - He's a mobile, puck-mover. He has a good stick going back and was the best defender on his team.

Nolan Joyce, #4 Canadiens, Right Shot, Eagles - He was a mobile defender who competed and grinded when retrieving pucks. He had a really good one-timer and had good footwork overall.

Davis Kinne, #2 Canadiens, Right Shot, Islanders - He had good size and skated well. He was able to hop into the offense and move the puck in transition with his feet.

Carter Schade, #2 Bruins, Left Shot, Penguins - He was very good with the puck on his stick, making plays in transit and in his attacking zone. His footwork was above average and he had good vision.

‘B’ Defensemen

Shai Buium, #5 Canadiens, Left Shot, LA Kings - He has good size and played some forward here as well. He was active, liked to join the rush and had reach.

Nick Donaldson, #2 Blackhawks, Right Shot, Mid Fairfield - He was very good in his own end, riding a few opposing forwards into the wall. He was good positionally in his own zone.

Tyler Duke, #7 Flyers, Left Shot, Belle Tire - He was a little on the smaller side, but he was a good skater from the back end.

Will Elias, #3 Canadiens, Right Shot, Eagles - He was a good skater who liked to join the rush. He had good recovery speed and could close. He was good on breakouts.

Brendan Fitzgerald, #2 Flyers, Left Shot, Islanders - He read plays well, stepping up and intercepting passes and knowing when to pinch. He showed off his vision with a nice pass to the backdoor from the left point.

Jake Geraci, #3 Red Wings, Right Shot, Mid Fairfield - He wasn't flashy, but he was efficient. He made a solid play defensively on another team's top player.

Will Killoran, #4 Flyers Right Shot, Eagles - His size and reach were intriguing.

Patrick Morrisey, #3 Rangers, Right Shot, Terriers - He had vision, size and feet that were noticeable.

Tyler Procious, #5 Flyers, Right Shot, Rochester Monarchs - He took good angles and made nice breakout passes.

Chase Ramsay, #3 Flyers, Right Shot, Westchester Express - He made a good pokecheck to push the puck out of his defensive zone and was an above average skater.

Nick Roukounakis, #5 Red Wings, Left Shot, Eagles - He's a rugged defender who kept the possession going forward and did a nice job pinching.

Nick Wallace, #5 Rangers, Left Shot, NJ Colonials - He had above average mobility and was physical for his size.

'B' Goaltenders

Conor Callaghan, #31 Bruins, Catches Left, Mid Fairfield - He's a competition in the crease and does a good job on his rebound control and covering up loose pucks.

Brett Cleaves, #30 Flyers, Catches Left, NJ Devils - He moved well in net and made a couple good post-to-post saves.

Thomas Heaney, #30 Blackhawks, Catches Left, NJ Colonials - He had good size, moved well and solid fundamentals.


Some of these descriptions are funny.."made a good pass" "was a good skater" "stopped a really hard shot" "had 1 good pokecheck" and my favorite " courted by Hockey East"...seriously? These kids are what 13/14..give me a break.

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And it's also why the number of kids in this region developing at a high level is so low. Given the amount of "Elite" players, "Elite teams", "Elite Combines" and total dollars spent in this region feeding this scheme, you'd think New England would be at the top level of putting kids at the next level. But the truth these frauds don't want you to hear is it isn't. Look the NHL draft the past two years. These were the first wave of Elite program kids (98,99). You can count the prospects on one hand.

Coaches talk out of both sides of their mouths too. Play other sports, develop into an athlete they say. Sure. They'll line up and feed these Spring events too.

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He does get real hockey people. no doubt.

However, 97% of the kids at this have no shot of playing at BU, BC, Harvard, etc. The other 3% certainly don't need this event to be seen as a 11/12/13 year old.

As long as those 97% keep playing the freight for these types of things, pockets keep getting lined and most kids don't get developed, cause that's not the goal. The goal is to sucker parents into thinking their little Johnny is "Elite" cause Dave Quinn is here to see him as an 11 year old.

It's a beautiful business model. Endless starving bent up demand with delivering just enough value to make them feel good. It's the youth hockey model for New England. Tried and true.


We have a bingo! Couldn't have said it better my self.
So what? Why does anyone care - in a negative way - that someone is making a living at hockey? Maybe it's because you can't imagine making $10,000 in a weekend (which isn't accurate, who knows how many hours and $$$ it takes to set all this up)?


Because they are kids. You dont F$%^ with kids and thats what all of these guys are doing and yet some parents open the checkbook with a smile. Society for some reason gives these guys a pass when all they are doing is exploiting kids and families with false hopes and lies. Take a look at all of the kids from just this weekend camps, how many are going to make their varsity high school team, or are mature enough right now to walk onto a varsity prep team. The answer is very few. The other 98% will play next year with their own age group just as they have always done, so what did these camps provide for your son this weekend? "A chance to play against some really good hockey players" if that is your answer then you are just trying to justify the fact that you feel right into the trap.
When anyone in their early 40's played, you played town, then if you were good enough you played on a district selects team, then either your high school or the former EJHL. If you were really good, you got invited to the HNIB tournament.
Not everyone got a trophy, and that was ok. Now, theses guys start these "camps" and pay for some coaches to come in to run skills or stand behind the bench and give a 1 hour talk, which means absolutely nothing. Sad state of affairs we have going on right now.
Nobody is F$%^ing with kids. Sounds good on paper. Except it isn't true. The KIDS are having a blast. Living the dream. Who knows which ones will make it?

The PARENTS that can't afford these can make better choices, but nobody has a gun to their heads. And I guarantee you they have $250 a month cell phone bills, $250 a month cable bills, $500 a month car leases times two. These used to be luxuries, now they are "necessities." Except, they really aren't. Find me a parent that is cancelling their cell phone plan to pay for their kids' hockey, and I'll start feeling bad for them.