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Re: EHF Black Parity Schedule is up for 05 and 06

Name
"The A bracket is clearly the stiffest with Rangers, then Terrier Red, Kings, and MMF."

Rangers had a good record, but really only had a couple of kids that really stood out. That started to show towards the end of the season. Unless Terrier Red, MMF and SSK seriously upgraded from last season, their chances are about as good as Friars, Islanders(Riverhawks) and Top Gun. There was not alot of separation at the bottom of the 06 black division at the end of the season and the Top Gun team would have placed in that same group had they played in the Black division.

That's all to say that the brackets look pretty even to me (though I don't have inside information of which teams collapsed or significantly improved). For all the things that the Fed does wrong (including scheduling the White parity at the end of April), I think they did a decent job with the 06 brackets.

LOL and why didn't you include Islander (non Riverhawks) in that lower group Dad? Your fooling yourself if you think they are any better than MMFs, both Terriers and Kings

Re: EHF Black Parity Schedule is up for 05 and 06

Agreed, Terrier Red and Kings proved they belong with 11 and 9 wins, respectively, last season. It's got to count for something when doing the four at large bids after the weekend play.

Re: EHF Black Parity Schedule is up for 05 and 06

anon
LOL and why didn't you include Islander (non Riverhawks) in that lower group Dad? Your fooling yourself if you think they are any better than MMFs, both Terriers and Kings


The poster you quoted doesn't even bother to list IHC-2 in his "A Bracket" list, not giving them a snowball's chance in hell I guess. They were given the last seed in the tourney because they're the new team on the block. There's no body of work to draw from to rank them. Thus, they're also the only team that doesn't get to play a T1White team.

IHC-1 has the easiest road to T1Black, IHC-2 has the toughest.

Re: EHF Black Parity Schedule is up for 05 and 06

Anon
anon
LOL and why didn't you include Islander (non Riverhawks) in that lower group Dad? Your fooling yourself if you think they are any better than MMFs, both Terriers and Kings


The poster you quoted doesn't even bother to list IHC-2 in his "A Bracket" list, not giving them a snowball's chance in hell I guess. They were given the last seed in the tourney because they're the new team on the block. There's no body of work to draw from to rank them. Thus, they're also the only team that doesn't get to play a T1White team.

IHC-1 has the easiest road to T1Black, IHC-2 has the toughest.

There are teams from the Black that didn't get a white team in parity

Re: EHF Black Parity Schedule is up for 05 and 06

Anon
There are teams from the Black that didn't get a white team in parity


Correct... sort of.
Islanders-2 play 4 black teams.
The 4 Black teams in group A, play 3 Black teams, plus the 1 new punching bag/cupcake/neophyte of the league. I say this because the league must either think this new IHC team is very weak(last seed), or they want them to go through a gauntlet to earn black.

B denotes T1 Black team
W denotes T1 White team
N denotes T1 New Team


Islanders 2- vs 4B
Jr Rangers vs 3B 1N
Jr Terriers R vs 3B 1N
SS Kings vs 3B 1N
MM Flames vs 3B 1N


NH Monarchs vs 3B 1W
Jr Huskies vs 3B 1W
Manchester Flames vs 2B 2W
Jr Terriers W vs 2B 2W
Jr Friars vs 2B 2W


Top Gun vs 3B 1W
Jr Eagles vs 3B 1W
NS Shamrocks vs 2B 2W
Islanders 1 vs 2B 2W
Islanders T vs 2B 2W

Re: EHF Black Parity Schedule is up for 05 and 06

Anon
Anon
There are teams from the Black that didn't get a white team in parity


Correct... sort of.
Islanders-2 play 4 black teams.
The 4 Black teams in group A, play 3 Black teams, plus the 1 new punching bag/cupcake/neophyte of the league. I say this because the league must either think this new IHC team is very weak(last seed), or they want them to go through a gauntlet to earn black.

B denotes T1 Black team
W denotes T1 White team
N denotes T1 New Team


Islanders 2- vs 4B
Jr Rangers vs 3B 1N
Jr Terriers R vs 3B 1N
SS Kings vs 3B 1N
MM Flames vs 3B 1N


NH Monarchs vs 3B 1W
Jr Huskies vs 3B 1W
Manchester Flames vs 2B 2W
Jr Terriers W vs 2B 2W
Jr Friars vs 2B 2W


Top Gun vs 3B 1W
Jr Eagles vs 3B 1W
NS Shamrocks vs 2B 2W
Islanders 1 vs 2B 2W
Islanders T vs 2B 2W


John Nash wants his wax pencils back.

Re: EHF Black Parity Schedule is up for 05 and 06

John Nash wants his wax pencils back.


Every once an a while you stumble upon a gem, this is one of them. Still laughing at this.

Re: EHF Black Parity Schedule is up for 05 and 06

That was a lot of work to figure out that two of the three brackets had three eams from Black and one bracket had four teams from Black. And obviously, when you are one of the Black teams you have one less game against a Black team, because you're the third or fourth black team in the bracket.

Re: EHF Black Parity Schedule is up for 05 and 06

Anon
That was a lot of work to figure out that two of the three brackets had three eams from Black and one bracket had four teams from Black. And obviously, when you are one of the Black teams you have one less game against a Black team, because you're the third or fourth black team in the bracket.




It's amazing that people can't read or looking for ways to say the system screwed their little bender!

From the EHF website...

"Teams were seeded based on their position on myhockeyrankings.com at the
end of the season and balanced brackets were then created. Team/teams that
were not in existence last year were given the lowest seeds"

Re: EHF Black Parity Schedule is up for 05 and 06

I wouldn't say the EHF intentionally screwed any team. I think its a fair division of groups, and with any breakdown/brackets- there will be winners and losers. Easy paths, so-so paths, and difficult paths. It is what it is.

Re: EHF Black Parity Schedule is up for 05 and 06

Anon
Anon
That was a lot of work to figure out that two of the three brackets had three eams from Black and one bracket had four teams from Black. And obviously, when you are one of the Black teams you have one less game against a Black team, because you're the third or fourth black team in the bracket.




It's amazing that people can't read or looking for ways to say the system screwed their little bender!

From the EHF website...

"Teams were seeded based on their position on myhockeyrankings.com at the
end of the season and balanced brackets were then created. Team/teams that
were not in existence last year were given the lowest seeds"

Has nothing to do with reading so you should be amazed. Nice job cutting and pasting though. The poster referred to a team that didn't exist last year that wouldn't have been on myhockeyrsnkings so how did they draw 4 black teams.

Re: EHF Black Parity Schedule is up for 05 and 06

Anon
Anon
Anon
That was a lot of work to figure out that two of the three brackets had three eams from Black and one bracket had four teams from Black. And obviously, when you are one of the Black teams you have one less game against a Black team, because you're the third or fourth black team in the bracket.




It's amazing that people can't read or looking for ways to say the system screwed their little bender!

From the EHF website...

"Teams were seeded based on their position on myhockeyrankings.com at the
end of the season and balanced brackets were then created. Team/teams that
were not in existence last year were given the lowest seeds"

Has nothing to do with reading so you should be amazed. Nice job cutting and pasting though. The poster referred to a team that didn't exist last year that wouldn't have been on myhockeyrsnkings so how did they draw 4 black teams.


Already making excuses and the games have not even been played. Sad!

Re: EHF Black Parity Schedule is up for 05 and 06

Anon
Anon
Anon
That was a lot of work to figure out that two of the three brackets had three eams from Black and one bracket had four teams from Black. And obviously, when you are one of the Black teams you have one less game against a Black team, because you're the third or fourth black team in the bracket.




It's amazing that people can't read or looking for ways to say the system screwed their little bender!

From the EHF website...

"Teams were seeded based on their position on myhockeyrankings.com at the
end of the season and balanced brackets were then created. Team/teams that
were not in existence last year were given the lowest seeds"

Has nothing to do with reading so you should be amazed. Nice job cutting and pasting though. The poster referred to a team that didn't exist last year that wouldn't have been on myhockeyrsnkings so how did they draw 4 black teams.

If you read the excerpt, it said new teams get lowest seeds. In other words, they will have to play the toughest teams to qualify (i.e. black teams). That could have been read and interpreted from the guy's "cut and paste".

Re: EHF Black Parity Schedule is up for 05 and 06

anon
Anon
Anon
Anon
That was a lot of work to figure out that two of the three brackets had three eams from Black and one bracket had four teams from Black. And obviously, when you are one of the Black teams you have one less game against a Black team, because you're the third or fourth black team in the bracket.




It's amazing that people can't read or looking for ways to say the system screwed their little bender!

From the EHF website...

"Teams were seeded based on their position on myhockeyrankings.com at the
end of the season and balanced brackets were then created. Team/teams that
were not in existence last year were given the lowest seeds"

Has nothing to do with reading so you should be amazed. Nice job cutting and pasting though. The poster referred to a team that didn't exist last year that wouldn't have been on myhockeyrsnkings so how did they draw 4 black teams.

If you read the excerpt, it said new teams get lowest seeds. In other words, they will have to play the toughest teams to qualify (i.e. black teams). That could have been read and interpreted from the guy's "cut and paste".


How about your benders work as hard on their game as all you dopes do on writing about lower tier hockey??? Be Elite or be gone!

Re: EHF Black Parity Schedule is up for 05 and 06

Anon
A little more homework needed. NH Monarchs were weak last year couldn't even beat Manchester's 07 team.. Terrier White has collapsed. So that bracket is really weak. The A bracket is clearly the stiffest with Rangers, then Terrier Red, Kings, and MMF. I think at least three of the four should get in, i.e., two at large bids from the bracket. Don't know about Top Gun, but I think the White champion should be getting an automatic bid so would let them in as #10. We certainly don't need three NH teams, going to NH every other weekend is for E9/BHL for the Lovell Knights and BA, not EHF teams.
Yes, I think the EHF and NHL are going to merge soon.

Re: EHF Black Parity Schedule is up for 05 and 06

Anon
T1 06
AUTO BIDS
Breakers
Northstars
Vipers

LIKELY IN
CT Jr Rangers
Manchester Flames
NS Shamrocks
Islanders 1 (and/or) Islanders 2 (?)

BUBBLE
Top Gun
Terriers W
Terriers R
SS Kings
MMF
Jr. Eagles
NH Monarchs

DOUBTFUL
Islanders-Tyngsboro
Jr Huskies
Jr Friars

*********************************************************
(?) Denotes Parity rule in question
I've heard 2 IHC teams can get into Black, and I've heard the opposite as well- 1 Black, 1 White.
If parity is the ultimate goal then both will likely get in, if the rule is as written then only one of IHC1/IHC2 are likely in.


How about the Bandits? I mean they labeled them the Tier 1 Black Team, so that must mean they will most likely get in right ?

Re: EHF Black Parity Schedule is up for 05 and 06

Anon
Anon
T1 06
AUTO BIDS
Breakers
Northstars
Vipers

LIKELY IN
CT Jr Rangers
Manchester Flames
NS Shamrocks
Islanders 1 (and/or) Islanders 2 (?)

BUBBLE
Top Gun
Terriers W
Terriers R
SS Kings
MMF
Jr. Eagles
NH Monarchs

DOUBTFUL
Islanders-Tyngsboro
Jr Huskies
Jr Friars

*********************************************************
(?) Denotes Parity rule in question
I've heard 2 IHC teams can get into Black, and I've heard the opposite as well- 1 Black, 1 White.
If parity is the ultimate goal then both will likely get in, if the rule is as written then only one of IHC1/IHC2 are likely in.


How about the Bandits? I mean they labeled them the Tier 1 Black Team, so that must mean they will most likely get in right ?
I think most have written the Bandits off. Maybe they should rethink it. New coaches new players this could be the start of a great comeback. Not saying champions but a couple good games against the upper teams. Some wins against the lower level teams. Anything can happen in the 05 /06 age groups. Been lots of movement only time will tell. Crazy Huh !!

Re: EHF Black Parity Schedule is up for 05 and 06

They may have labeled their Tier 1 team as Black internally, but they aren't even playing in the parity tourney this weekend. Perhaps you are referring to the Bandits' re-entry into Elite.

Re: EHF Black Parity Schedule is up for 05 and 06

Anon
They may have labeled their Tier 1 team as Black internally, but they aren't even playing in the parity tourney this weekend. Perhaps you are referring to the Bandits' re-entry into Elite.

You must be referring to 05s. They have two tier1 teams. Others ages don't. If you remember from years past when orgs had multiple teams in tier 1 they designated them color names to separere their identity. For example, since Bandits have red or black jerseys, they might dedicate teams red and black. I suspect it's nothing more than that except to you

Re: EHF Black Parity Schedule is up for 05 and 06

Anon
Anon
They may have labeled their Tier 1 team as Black internally, but they aren't even playing in the parity tourney this weekend. Perhaps you are referring to the Bandits' re-entry into Elite.

You must be referring to 05s. They have two tier1 teams. Others ages don't. If you remember from years past when orgs had multiple teams in tier 1 they designated them color names to separere their identity. For example, since Bandits have red or black jerseys, they might dedicate teams red and black. I suspect it's nothing more than that except to you


Yes, 05's. And you could be right. But you are not. They designated the teams Black and White, for the divisions that they told the parents they will be playing in... not for the colors of their jerseys !

Re: EHF Black Parity Schedule is up for 05 and 06

Anon
Anon
so who will the 7 teams that advance to Black thru parity in the 05 division

I believe they need to play the games first to answer that question
whoever the fed picks parity doesn't matter in some special cases

Re: EHF Black Parity Schedule is up for 05 and 06

anon
Anon
Anon
so who will the 7 teams that advance to Black thru parity in the 05 division

I believe they need to play the games first to answer that question
whoever the fed picks parity doesn't matter in some special cases


And there it is....Parity summed up in one sentence! Spot on!

Re: EHF Black Parity Schedule is up for 05 and 06

If you had made this statement last year I would have completely agreed. But this year it looks like they actually put some thought into it by using MHR to create brackets. At least the schedules will be a little more equal rather than one team playing 4 teams from the black division while others play 4 from the bottom of the white.

Re: EHF Black Parity Schedule is up for 05 and 06

EHF has schedules posted. 3 brackets??? Top team from ea bracket gets in, then tie breaker to form a 10 team black division.

Re: EHF Black Parity Schedule is up for 05 and 06

Anon
Is that schedule complete on the website? If so, did I miss the game listings for the Jr Eagles or do they get auto-bids to Black?


It appears complete but don't see -05 Eagles. They wouldn't have auto lock for Black as 3rd place finisher. Maybe more games coming?

Re: EHF Black Parity Schedule is up for 05 and 06

Eagles were second due to fed rules on unbalanced schedules...goes by win percentage and they were tied at end of reg season in pts

Re: EHF Black Parity Schedule is up for 05 and 06

BJE actually finished 2nd in regular season behind NorthStars, ahead of MMF by a single point. Standings for auto bids for next season are based on regular season and I think the EHF website incorporates playoffs games to total points so that's why it appears they are 3rd in standings.

Re: EHF Black Parity Schedule is up for 05 and 06

fed always finds a hidden rule or formula or other nonsense to bend the rules or don't enforce the rules

Re: EHF Black Parity Schedule is up for 05 and 06

anon
BJE actually finished 2nd in regular season behind NorthStars, ahead of MMF by a single point. Standings for auto bids for next season are based on regular season and I think the EHF website incorporates playoffs games to total points so that's why it appears they are 3rd in standings.


Correct. So explain how the MMF get an auto bid? Nstars were 1st, BJE were 2nd, Nstars won championship. In no way does the MMF get an auto bid, according to parity rules on EHF site. The old man must've called the EHF and told them what to do, again!

Re: EHF Black Parity Schedule is up for 05 and 06

this is the bullsh t the fed pulls

Re: EHF Black Parity Schedule is up for 05 and 06

I wonder if the Fed ever gets tired of being the MMF's b*tch??

Re: EHF Black Parity Schedule is up for 05 and 06

So which teams in the 06 will be much different than last year? Seems to be quite a bit of turnover south of Boston. Breakers loosing a few to Elite teams. Terriers white seems to have lost a lot. Will Huskies and Bandits continue to have different kids at games each week? And how about the Bandits? New management. Old coaches gone. Doing a lot to recruit. Could this be the start of a new era for them?

Re: EHF Black Parity Schedule is up for 05 and 06

Anon
So which teams in the 06 will be much different than last year? Seems to be quite a bit of turnover south of Boston. Breakers loosing a few to Elite teams. Terriers white seems to have lost a lot. Will Huskies and Bandits continue to have different kids at games each week? And how about the Bandits? New management. Old coaches gone. Doing a lot to recruit. Could this be the start of a new era for them?


I think in 06 probably Caps have most different makeup. Not sure it's going to matter down where they were last year but new Coach, new goalie, 9 new players. Couple solid players from Outlaws implosion. Only returning 5 players from last year.

Re: EHF Black Parity Schedule is up for 05 and 06

A Non
Anon
So which teams in the 06 will be much different than last year? Seems to be quite a bit of turnover south of Boston. Breakers loosing a few to Elite teams. Terriers white seems to have lost a lot. Will Huskies and Bandits continue to have different kids at games each week? And how about the Bandits? New management. Old coaches gone. Doing a lot to recruit. Could this be the start of a new era for them?


I think in 06 probably Caps have most different makeup. Not sure it's going to matter down where they were last year but new Coach, new goalie, 9 new players. Couple solid players from Outlaws implosion. Only returning 5 players from last year.

Rumor has it lots of kids at Bandits tryouts.
The teams that could go either way are teams like Terriers Red, King and Friars that were in 06 black and turned it on towards the end to either beat or play tough against some of the higher ranked black teams. A few good players could push them up but if they lose a few could be problematic for them. For example, a team like terrier elite (substitute Breakers here too) could mean bringing some of the stronger tier 1 up if they couldn't replace from tryouts. Both of those elite teams seem to be faced with loses so it could happen

Re: EHF Black Parity Schedule is up for 05 and 06

A few things starting to become clear in 06 Black parity-

BJE have upgraded a couple of pieces and grab an at large bid coming out of their bracket at 3-1. Had a pretty easy draw but they can hang it seems.

MMF are going to White and may not win a game in Black parity. May struggle at White parity as well.

Jr Friars to White likely end up silver

SSK have improved but they will be where they were last year


The rest is turning out pretty much Denny Green - they are who we thought they were.

Re: EHF Black Parity Schedule is up for 05 and 06

A Non
A few things starting to become clear in 06 Black parity-

BJE have upgraded a couple of pieces and grab an at large bid coming out of their bracket at 3-1. Had a pretty easy draw but they can hang it seems.

MMF are going to White and may not win a game in Black parity. May struggle at White parity as well.

Jr Friars to White likely end up silver

SSK have improved but they will be where they were last year


The rest is turning out pretty much Denny Green - they are who we thought they were.

BJE may end up 2-2
Friars will no fine in white. Won't be silver
Terriers red most improved (noted at end of season) and looks like only added one dobthry have continuity on their side
Terriers white declined from last year and year before
Kings definitely added a couple so slightly improved from last year