This one is a dandy and sure to be a topic of further conversation. So, the latest news among the 05 teams at the New England Sports Center parity weekend involves the Fed's decision to uphold a rule regarding the release of multiple players from one team. Here's the story being circulated. Apparently as many as 8 or 9 families from the 05 Tier 1 Minuteman Flames left the team after the season because the head coach lacked "ethical and moral integrity" and these families were disgusted by the coaches actions and didn't want their children being exposed to such unacceptable behavior by a mentor figure. These players went off to find their own new opportunities by trying out for other teams. Some of these players landed on other EHF teams in the white and black division. They played for their respective new teams in this weekends parity tourney only to find out that the Minuteman Flames owner Larue Renfroe (who also owns the NE Sports Center) thought that a mass exodus of players from his tier 1 05 team would not look good for his organization. Renfroe decided to block those players from playing on other teams submitting a complaint to the Fed stating that the MMF organization never officially 'released' these players and therefore the teams who picked up these players are in violation of an EHF rule. Jack Sweeney, who is the director of operations for the Fed decided to uphold Renfroe's complaint and suspended all teams and players involved in the tournament for illegally playing on other teams without being released. If this story is true, then the Fed has hit an ultimate low and is totally bankrupt when it comes to integrity and the interest of the children.
Some of you guys just don't get it and the sooner you do the better off you will be. The owners of these organizations don't care about what is best for the kids but what is best for business and assuming this story is true then the owner made a business decision. It's as simple as that
This is a difficult situation if true. I would suggest contacting other orgs outside the EHF as an alternative to add a new 05 team wholesale package. . Outlaws are in the same building now and may be an alternative.
Also Crusaders have a new facility and are moving to AAA. Add in a number of tournaments to make up for lack of competitiveness and you can salvage something.
In the end it's not worth it to be held hostage. You're the customers paying for a service.
This sounds too far fetched. 05 MMF finished 3rd last season. Something would have to be really bad for so many families to leave. I haven't heard or read in the newspapers of anything going down at the flames.
I think people are missing the point.
1) we all know "rules" exist. Those rules are followed or not followed by a particular club only when it's convenient for them.
2) parents were above board with their intentions in advance. Attempted to go about the process appropriately.
3) most parents will remove their children from harmful situations regardless of rules. What is more important the so called rules or your child?? Let be real.
The rules are the rules and every coach fully understands player movement. That is why people ask for a release. This goes on every year. My question is what did the EHF think was going to happen when they allowed so many teams in Tier 1? They had to know they would be dealing with situations like this.
Yes, agree. The point is that rules are followed by some only when it's convenient. The kids will land on their feet at different orgs and the coach in question will continue his pattern of behavior. Some will move on and others will ignore it just to keep their kid on a team.
The top players left the org. Parents made the decision to remove their children from that environment. Yes, youth hockey is a business but as parents you decide what is best for your child regardless of the standings. KIds that were cleared initially were conveniently told at the last minute they could not play in parity, this ultimately caused the suspension of the husky coach. The story about 04s Is false.
The flames received their mysterious bye because they lost their top players. They most likely would not have made into the black division with their new roster. Unfortunately, the only ones who lose out are the eleven year olds.
Totally explains the mystery bye. If that's not collusion I don't what is. Super shady like the grassy knoll.
fed did nothing about 05 TG player player playing for warriors whats up
now people can really see what the fed is all about THEMSELVES AND OWNERS F THE kids
Sadly, it's all true. HC has a lot of characteristics that are, let's say, less-than-desirable. Aside from what's already been mentioned on this D-board (again, from what I've read, is all true), he is not a hockey guy. He's a former tow-truck driver, who knows the only reason he coaches is to keep his kid on the team. Practices were ineffective at best. He didn't teach the kids anything. No schemes at all (forechecking, neutral zone, defensive zone, nothing).
Worse, he coaches out of fear (except for his own kid, of course). Players frequently left the rink in tears. HC lied to me and to other families on the team about a variety of things. He violated so many of USA Hockey rules, it's ridiculous. There are also a few things that I can't mention because that would likely disclose my identity, and I'm not interested in ending up in anyone's cross-hairs.
All this information was brought to the Flames attention, along with a request to remove HC. HC should have been removed, however Wes/Larue did nothing about it. And the families left because of it. One parent even gave HC a graceful way to exit...coach the flames team in the white division, which would have better suited HC's son. But HC isn't going anywhere. I feel bad for the players who stayed with the team.
For HC and Wes/Larue to blackball two kids from playing for a team in the white division is not a sound business decision. That is, if the flames are successful in blocking those two kids from playing at another organization, that doesn't keep the money flowing. Those kids will not return to the flames. Moreover, the Huskies are not a real threat to the flames, at that level anyway.
In fact, this is the opposite of a sound business decision. This is an ego play...A dick-measuring contest. And it makes the flames look like a bully. Ultimately, that is not good for business. I'm sure they'll continue to draw people in, as they are a huge organization, and most people don't know any better. But anyone who hears about this incident is certainly going to think twice about joining the flames.
A smart decision is to work it out between the organizations. That's what most organizations do. Let the kids play, and avoid the bad press. But hey, what do I know. These are good kids, and good families, and for the flames to blackball them in this fashion is disgraceful.
Personally, I hope this story reaches the entire organization, and more people leave.
The fact that Tier 1 players need to be "released" after completing a season and wanting to play elsewhere tells you all you need to know about the FED.
I don't know if the claim about the 05 MMF coach is true but if it is, that's troubling. Sexual activity and 11 year olds don't mix well in any court.
Here is the real question all us outsiders are wondering. Was the mom hot and was there more than one.
What!? We never heard about any of this at tryouts. Are you talking about the head coach? Shocking! What the heck.
If you don't question the all mighty CP and are ok with him having severe control issues, being an ego-maniac and total narcissist...things will be fine. Don't question his lack of hockey knowledge (highest level played goalie on men's league), his affair with a team mom (poor husband has had no idea for 2 seasons), his bff/assistant coach who is never sober, the fact that neither of them can pass a CORI check you will have a great season! Oh and if you can look past the fact that his kid is not cut out for this level. Just be prepared that if your child is on ice same time as his kid or his lover's kid, your child will be called out and blamed for whatever went wrong that shift. It is a great environment that he creates and shame on the MMF for allowing it to continue for a 3rd season. CP, LR and WT are horrible people. Good luck and best wishes for a "fun" season
Yowza, this sounds like great reality TV!
He probably laid it on thick!
Not the first time LR has blocked kids/families from pursuing a better opportunity, and it won't be the last. The only consolation is that his own team is a complete mess, which must break his heart.
Many of the flames teams are a complete mess. Yes, LR's 04 team, the aforementioned 05 Tier 1 team, 06 tier 1 team, the 04 tier 1 team. They are not the only game in town anymore, there are many, many more, better options now for quality coaching and quality ownership. How many championships did they win this season, with what 25+ teams that they field? If I had to guess, maybe 3? 1 of which was the 06 elite team that was mentioned earlier, that was using an illegal player.
Two more sheets on the way though, so the money keeps flowing. Hey fed4life guy, keep promoting because you know they are all about developing your kid, right? They are playing you, but you keep pushing their message.