Parity is for full time players only... so what do you do when teams use their "alternates" to get in.
MMF used 05 MMF elites as alternates bc only could get 9 skaters otherwise.
Ct Jr Rangers- used alternates from MidFairfield Rangers elite.
Breakers used Advantage Ice elite players as alternates
Friars are out on tie breaker and shouldn't be. They didn't cheat.
So now what?
Breakers didn't even use alternates...they used players that aren't even affiliated with team, including at least one Advantage elite player. It's a joke.
If that is true those teams should be disqualified and whoever they played should get the wins. Never happen as two of those teams are founding members....personally saw the advantage bag going in the locker room...
Friars didn't play those teams but shamrocks did and lost 4 to 3 to both those teams....the fed should step up and let the friars and shamrocks in...neither cheated but get screwed by founding teams cheating...friars in points and shamrocks in those games....fed do the right thing...will never happen cause those are founding teams......they got their tourney fee they don't care about either...rigged system will continue
According to the rules the monarchs get 8th place because they beat friars head to head. But let's face it the friars and the caps should end up in black. The white div would suck. The EHF should take 12 teams like last year. It's not like they didn't compete in there div and the caps div was by far the most competitive.
They should take anyone that got 4 pts and up...and call it a day...
They should take 4pts and up. If not, fed should do right and slot 3 and 4pt teams in White and don't make them play parity. You're only getting partial teams by late April anyway, 2 parity tournaments in April is stupid.
It seems like there was a lot of parity in this year's tournament. There are several teams that didn't make it like the Caps, Islanders Tyngsboro 1 & 2, Thunderbirds and Shamrocks that could all be competitive with most of the teams in the Black division. Don't even get me started with the Friars situation. They have a good team that had a bad Friday night and because of it they may lose out on playing in a division where they've been in the playoffs the past 2 years? Just goes to show how having a short, 4 game tournament determine the divisions for the following season makes no sense. Then add in all the talk about teams using illegal players and it's obvious that it's a flawed system.
Friars should be in. They played in toughest grouping by far - three teams in the top 9 with 5 or more points, and the Thunderbirds had 4 points and only allowed 5 goals. Only Top Gun was bunk in that group. Fed would be best served to take 12 for Black, would be competitive. But I suspect some of the smaller quicker teams that did well this weekend won't once bantam rules come into play.
Shamrock played the winner of parity to a great 4 to 3 game and the breakers who also were top 7 and again great 4 to 3 game...and mmf illegal players breakers illegal players...fed should step up and take all teams with two wins....friars are very good team and should be there...I guess high noon will tell us what fed believes in true parity and doing the right thing or is it all about the Benjamins....time will tell
Caps would fall behind the Thunderbirds and Shamrocks of the 4 pt teams, wouldn't they?
Basically in past two wins got you in and it should be the same do a 13 team league 39 games so every team plays each other 3 times...
No it goes most wins first...
Actually, Thunderbirds had 4 pts. 1-1-2. But someone notes that most wins is the first tiebreaker. Agree with the assessment though.
Shamrocks have more wins and would go and they belong in that group as well.
i watched majority of games this weekend. yes, these are the correct 8-12 however 10-12 would be weak black opponents. Only teams above .500 should make it in.
if you include 10-12 then include the new islanders tyngsboro 2 team- only loses were by one goal each to the #2 and #3 teams from the weekend
Everyone is forgetting, the SSK and North Stars had byes and didn't play in the tournament. No way the EHF takes 14 teams when they have already stated they are taking only 10. They will take 12 at most.
If they take only 10, then the Monarchs are in and the Friars are out. Everyone else are playing in the White parity tournament.
there is absolutely no way the eagles are carrying 19 full time rostered kids at 3,000 per player. If my kid were on the 4th line I would snitch on coach. because those kids didn't touch the ice over all the black helmet kids
are the names on the game sheets or just the numbers. I saw the Eagles play and 3 or 4 of those kids would make eagles elites. There is no way they would put kid on AAA if not playin full time on another team. Go on live barn. The had a different amount of kids each game this weekend.
League investigating now won't release the division
04 will try again next weekend in Springfield
About **** time. But we all know they wont do anything to one of the founding members.
or a coach who watched the games before and after him?
Agreed Shamrocks are not better than Caps and Islanders Tyngsboro 2. They are probably even with Islanders Tyngsboro 1 (Dual State).
We played shamrocks and they were solid...they only lost by one goal to flames and breakers...so your argument holds no water...and if they are even with islanders 1 west...caps lost to them so even stop it
I heard islanders Tyngsboro 2 beat Shamrocks in a scrimmage 5-1?
What does that have to with anything....both teams played well against teams this past weekend...a lone scrimmage means nothing...who knows who played...tyngsboro 2 tied Manchester 4 to 4 and Manchester didn't win a game this weekend does that mean tyngsboro 2 sucks then....
These teams are all even and on any given day could beat eachother
It could mean that the division was not as strong as other divisions...Shamrocks play against CT Rangers, Islanders and Tyngsboro 2 and Huskies or Manchester Flames, ...or Woonsocket, Eagles, Tyngsboro 1, Caps, Terriers...probably win one game at best.
There two wins...Bulldogs and Bandits will probably be in the silver.
Bandits silver? Saw most of the 3rd period vs MMF thought they looked big and fast figured they would compete. But I think silver is a stretch unless you go by reputation
Most of the teams are even, there are probably 13 teams that can compete with each other every week, 2 that don't belong (Bulldogs, and Top Gun) and another 5 that are 1-2 players away from being able to compete with the top 13 from this past weekend.
I'd like to know, why some orgs kept two teams that look equal but didn't make one super team for black and another team for white, so the kids get the development level they need for the upcoming year. Youth hockey at its finest $$$
Friars should definitely be in Black. Would like to see 13 and every team plays each other 3 times during the season. Either way it's split, I feel that there will be a lot of parity in this division next season. Can see the Eagles maybe struggling a little bit but all of these other teams will have even squads.
So if they lost 4 to 3 to both mmf and breakers then they should not be in either....get a life...
If nothing else, Breakers should be disqualified so both Friars and Monarchs make it.
If they are then shamrocks should be in as that gives them three wins...and it was a 4 to 3 game...so those illegal three players don't show breakers lose
This parity is an unmitigated disaster for the EHF. The timing doesn't allow enough time for teams to outfit their players with gear, and suspicion of foul play (real or perceived) casts a shadow over what could be a fun event. The BHL is gaining ground by doing nothing.
Yep....only saving grace is if they do the right thing
Not a coach and not involved my team in black...the right thing is if a team is caught cheating the rule is a forfeit,,,thems the rules....if u can't do the time dont do the crime
Hey idiot, did you ever think that maybe Eagles didnt have same # of players each day because of 1. Baseball 2. Lacrosse 3. Illness. Coach is carrying more players next season. Get your facts straight before you come whining on the dboard. Clearly, you were on one of teams Eagles beat this weekend. EHF already checked this out and the roster and players all legit. Move on!
Breakers forfeit all 4 games, Shamrocks in, instead of Breakers
EHF Elite doesn't have parity because the kids are the best at their age group. The rest of you are just color coordinating for sloppy seconds. Give it a rest and go back to Town A.
the black division was a bunch of cheats. there are 3 teams from one bracket in the black and all 3 teams suck. add the north shore shamrocks and half the black div sucks. EHF screwed this up big time. and my kid is on onew of the teams that went 4-0. it should be re-done. what a joke.
Parents of those teams must be ******* But will probably continue to give Tmac and the breakers their money
This EHF Parity is soooooo much better then the E9. I am excited to listen to you dumb people toil over spring parity and how bad it is going to screw up your summer and 8 months of hockey to follow.
True but if a player is on an elite 9 team full time tough to be on the tier 1 ehf full time as well....
Minuteman Flames only used their 12 full time skaters and 1 goalie for the entire parity tournament. Get your facts straight before you slander 12 year kids. We were the only team to go 4-0 and that was with a legitimate roster
...Kids were saying a kid from CT Rangers played in the Q, not sure if it was for MFF (doubtful) or one of the other teams , even if he did play at the Q it could have been a lower level team... I'm sure someone knows...
CT Rangers tier 1 team also went to the Q...
EHF should do the right thing for the kids and make BLACK 12 teams WHITE 10 teams and SILVER 8 teams. They are not losing any money this way (30) teams. Anyone with knowledge of hockey should be able to ascess that there were about 14 teams at parity that could easily be in BLACK. Friars, thunderbirds, Prov Caps, islanders tyngs, all are black teams.
Step up EHF and do the right thing
They only made 10 teams at other div in EHF- They would complain. But 04 was legit with how close some team were. They should put 12 in but they wont
Black 8 teams
White 8 teams
Silver 14 teams
Black division plays each team in the Black division 5 times = 35 games
Black division plays each white division team once = 8 games
Total games 43
White division plays each team in the white division 5 times = 35 games
White Division plays each team in the Black division 1 time = 8 games
Total Games 43
Silver plays each team in the silver division 3 times
Total games 39.
Don't use logic here on the DBoard.
South Shore Kings
Islanders Hockey Club
Woonsocket North Stars
Boston Jr. Eagles
Providence Jr. Friars
Greater Boston Vipers
North Shore Shamrocks
New Hampshire Jr. Monarchs
Kings win the division...Islanders win the playoffs.
Top 8 teams compete well. Last 2 teams don't win a combined total of 12 games.
May the fun begin.
Guys, let's not forget that the E9/BHL parity at 2004 was bungled last year as well, and it made for a weak E9. Things happen. I just wish they would be more aggressive moving teams mid-season between Black/White, White/Silver, or E9/BHL the way BHL moves teams from American to National.
Wouldn't be surprised if this lineup is not final.
No chance they change the 10 team formats...
I saw the Islanders at parity and they had a couple of kids with different gear out there so I'm assuming they picked up at least a few. Couldn't tell where they were coming from though.
Parity this time of year for next year is awful!...Can we agree that the Valley League handles parity the best? However with the early movement of teams schedule can't be set at beginning of year...
IHC picked up a couple of E9 skaters and a goalie. They looked real good at parity right where they left off from last season. 1 point last season and IHC would have made a deep playoff run last season.
With the 04s why aren't we doing this in the fall when they can check and the kids that are playing as "alternates" would have conflicts with their regular team. I know, it's just about selling ice.