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Anon
Oct 12, 2017 - 11:11AM
Re: Does IHC own MyHockeyRankings?

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MyHockeyRankings is surprisingly VERY accurate.....


Also pretty sure winning team submits the game sheet. Hard to manipulate that.


You really have no idea huh ? You think you submit your score sheets to MHR ?

Submitting the games sheets to your league is a whole different thing.

MHR is a website that works by anyone signing up as a volunteer to enter scores as an administrator for your division. Once you sign up as an administrator for your team, you are supposed to enter the scores for your division each and every weekend.

They are verified (somewhat)by other volunteers making entries, but it is very easy to leave out a game here and there that would negatively affect your ranking.

that, and it is optional, so the EHF pretty much was the predominate league in this area entering scores, some leagues don't even enter scores there at all.

However you see this year, there are lots of new teams showing up on MHR from outside this region, and wow, look at that, those same EHF teams are now dropping in rankings as a result !

It is useless information all around and is an accurate gauge of nothing.



You are correct about other leagues adding scores. Looking at 06 Tier 2 and there is several gulp EMHL teams leading the pack. Where are the T1 Black teams? Once the EHF teams are not in the top anymore this site will be labeled as irrelevant.
Exactly.


Exactly. and I am not bitter nor care either way about my sons teams ranking because I know it is irreleveant, quite the opposite. Actually, his team is ranked in the top twenty and I don't think they are that good, to be honest.



The rankings are skewed early in the season but become accurate as the season progresses.

I have no problems using MHR to slot teams in tournaments because I think it is the best tool we have.

And I agree with the previous poster, if you don't see your team's score posted, contact your Team Parent because the site is run by volunteers.

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anon
Oct 12, 2017 - 11:39AM
Re: Does IHC own MyHockeyRankings?

Anon
Anon
Anon
Anon
MyHockeyRankings is surprisingly VERY accurate.....


Also pretty sure winning team submits the game sheet. Hard to manipulate that.


You really have no idea huh ? You think you submit your score sheets to MHR ?

Submitting the games sheets to your league is a whole different thing.

MHR is a website that works by anyone signing up as a volunteer to enter scores as an administrator for your division. Once you sign up as an administrator for your team, you are supposed to enter the scores for your division each and every weekend.

They are verified (somewhat)by other volunteers making entries, but it is very easy to leave out a game here and there that would negatively affect your ranking.

that, and it is optional, so the EHF pretty much was the predominate league in this area entering scores, some leagues don't even enter scores there at all.

However you see this year, there are lots of new teams showing up on MHR from outside this region, and wow, look at that, those same EHF teams are now dropping in rankings as a result !

It is useless information all around and is an accurate gauge of nothing.



You are correct about other leagues adding scores. Looking at 06 Tier 2 and there is several gulp EMHL teams leading the pack. Where are the T1 Black teams? Once the EHF teams are not in the top anymore this site will be labeled as irrelevant.

What games are missing for 2006? I'll add them right now. Or you can. Just go to the website. Then you can see that EHF Tier 1 Black is not that far ahead of EMHL.

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Anon
Oct 12, 2017 - 12:51PM
Re: Does IHC own MyHockeyRankings?

All Tier 2 teams seem to weighted evenly regardless of league, which would skew the rankings considerably. It seems that the formula weighs EMHL games evenly with Their 1 Black/white/silver/BHL American games. That would be a mistake and effectively render the Mass. T2 rankings useless.

How can an EMHL team, having only played EMHL games have a considerably higher strength of schedule quotient than a T1 Black team that has played Tier 1 black league games, and tourney games vs legit AAA Elite teams?

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Anon
Oct 12, 2017 - 1:43PM
Re: Does IHC own MyHockeyRankings?

Anon
All Tier 2 teams seem to weighted evenly regardless of league, which would skew the rankings considerably. It seems that the formula weighs EMHL games evenly with Their 1 Black/white/silver/BHL American games. That would be a mistake and effectively render the Mass. T2 rankings useless.

How can an EMHL team, having only played EMHL games have a considerably higher strength of schedule quotient than a T1 Black team that has played Tier 1 black league games, and tourney games vs legit AAA Elite teams?
Umm, forget the rankings, Mass Tier 2 hockey is useless. It's recreational, house hockey. At most, a place for your kid to spend a year developing, and then moving on. Otherwise,. it's just for fun, and then rankings don't really matter, now do they?

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Anon
Oct 12, 2017 - 2:44PM
Re: Does IHC own MyHockeyRankings?

Anon
All Tier 2 teams seem to weighted evenly regardless of league, which would skew the rankings considerably. It seems that the formula weighs EMHL games evenly with Their 1 Black/white/silver/BHL American games. That would be a mistake and effectively render the Mass. T2 rankings useless.

How can an EMHL team, having only played EMHL games have a considerably higher strength of schedule quotient than a T1 Black team that has played Tier 1 black league games, and tourney games vs legit AAA Elite teams?


This is funny, thanks for the chuckle... everyone knows that Tier 1 Black White and Silver are no different from BHL and EMHL, except the parents of EHF black white and silver teams.

The weighting is the same, they are all weighted equally because they are all pretty much the same ! YOU ARE THE ONLY ONE WHO THINKS THEY ARE DIFFERENT !

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Anon
Oct 12, 2017 - 10:27PM
Re: Does IHC own MyHockeyRankings?

Anon
...everyone knows that Tier 1 Black... are no different from BHL and EMHL....


And there it is.... the dumbest thing I've read in awhile. My kid's AA town team can handle your EMHL dusters with ease.

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ANON
Oct 13, 2017 - 8:04AM
Re: Does IHC own MyHockeyRankings?

With all due respect, why are we talking about town hockey and different leagues that have colors associated with them under the heading of Hockey Rankings? If anyone's point is that rankings at this level are not very accurate you are likely correct. I think the point of many is when you talk about the top teams in the country that are traveling and playing each other the data is good and the rankings are helpful.

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Anon
Oct 13, 2017 - 8:11AM
Re: Does IHC own MyHockeyRankings?

ANON
With all due respect, why are we talking about town hockey and different leagues that have colors associated with them under the heading of Hockey Rankings? If anyone's point is that rankings at this level are not very accurate you are likely correct. I think the point of many is when you talk about the top teams in the country that are traveling and playing each other the data is good and the rankings are helpful.


The issues the crazies have here is that they don't see there Tier 1 Black teams at the top of rankings, and therefore go into panic mode about broken algorithms or difference of weightings. When the reality is they are ranked appropriately

Unfortunately Tier 1 Black and White parents can't see that because they have been told that their divisions are almost as good as EHF elite and those are the best kids in the world..

Total Joke, Just face the facts. Tier 1 Black has a few good players scattered throughout the league, Tier 1 White has a few players that could make the jump to Black, but overall are not very good. Tier 1 Silver is the best thing I have ever seen, its like a cruel joke on the families that they are letting go on all season instead of telling you that you are on a hidden camera tv show !!

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anon
Oct 13, 2017 - 8:21AM
Re: Does IHC own MyHockeyRankings?

Anon
ANON
With all due respect, why are we talking about town hockey and different leagues that have colors associated with them under the heading of Hockey Rankings? If anyone's point is that rankings at this level are not very accurate you are likely correct. I think the point of many is when you talk about the top teams in the country that are traveling and playing each other the data is good and the rankings are helpful.


The issues the crazies have here is that they don't see there Tier 1 Black teams at the top of rankings, and therefore go into panic mode about broken algorithms or difference of weightings. When the reality is they are ranked appropriately

Unfortunately Tier 1 Black and White parents can't see that because they have been told that their divisions are almost as good as EHF elite and those are the best kids in the world..

Total Joke, Just face the facts. Tier 1 Black has a few good players scattered throughout the league, Tier 1 White has a few players that could make the jump to Black, but overall are not very good. Tier 1 Silver is the best thing I have ever seen, its like a cruel joke on the families that they are letting go on all season instead of telling you that you are on a hidden camera tv show !!


It's D-board human nature. The rankings come out... If your team is at or better than expected, the rankings are "correct" and are "spot on."

If you bender's team is ranked lower than expected you spend the next 6 days bashing the "algorithm."

Anyone with an ounce of brain matter in the hockey world knows that those rankings may not be totally perfect, but year in and year out are very, very close to the real order in youth hockey when it comes to the top teams.

**disclaimer** Anything that happens below #20 is up for discussion as it's a perfect storm of really bad AAA teams, AA teams, Select teams, new programs etc.

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BEACON
Oct 16, 2017 - 11:21AM
Re: Does IHC own MyHockeyRankings?

All EMHL teams were ranked lower last year due to strength of schedule and goal differential...the thing that has not been mentioned is how a team is rated at the beginning of the year. The problem is that last year's ratings for all teams have not carried over as the beginning rating for the current season. Why is that?

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Anon
Oct 13, 2017 - 8:08AM
Re: Does IHC own MyHockeyRankings?

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Anon
...everyone knows that Tier 1 Black... are no different from BHL and EMHL....


And there it is.... the dumbest thing I've read in awhile. My kid's AA town team can handle your EMHL dusters with ease.


I think his point is that your kid's AA town team could also handle several of the T1 Black teams as well. It likely has a few T1 kids playing on it.

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BEACON
Oct 16, 2017 - 11:15AM
Re: Does IHC own MyHockeyRankings?

If this is true, then why are all EMHL teams ranked lower than every other league last year during the Squirt Major season? What changed if it is an algorithm calculating strength of schedule and goal differential?

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BACON
Oct 16, 2017 - 11:23AM
Re: Does IHC own MyHockeyRankings?

BEACON
If this is true, then why are all EMHL teams ranked lower than every other league last year during the Squirt Major season? What changed if it is an algorithm calculating strength of schedule and goal differential?


Like a poster above said, if you're looking at tier 2 rankings please give it a rest. I'm certain you went to the top ranked community college as well.

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BACON
Oct 16, 2017 - 11:54AM
Re: Does IHC own MyHockeyRankings?

The Tier 1 algorithm is off as well knucklehead!! I never made it to community college.

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Anon
Oct 16, 2017 - 12:17PM
Re: Does IHC own MyHockeyRankings?

BACON
BEACON
If this is true, then why are all EMHL teams ranked lower than every other league last year during the Squirt Major season? What changed if it is an algorithm calculating strength of schedule and goal differential?


Like a poster above said, if you're looking at tier 2 rankings please give it a rest. I'm certain you went to the top ranked community college as well.
Anyone that mentions "EMHL" and "rankings" in the same thought has zero credibility.

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anon
Oct 16, 2017 - 12:20PM
Re: Does IHC own MyHockeyRankings?

sorry your league got cut

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Anon
Oct 16, 2017 - 1:06PM
Re: Does IHC own MyHockeyRankings?

Anon
BACON
BEACON
If this is true, then why are all EMHL teams ranked lower than every other league last year during the Squirt Major season? What changed if it is an algorithm calculating strength of schedule and goal differential?


Like a poster above said, if you're looking at tier 2 rankings please give it a rest. I'm certain you went to the top ranked community college as well.
Anyone that mentions "EMHL" and "rankings" in the same thought has zero credibility.


Anyone that mentions algorithms and youth hockey in the same thought has zero credibility.

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anon
Oct 16, 2017 - 1:13PM
Re: Does IHC own MyHockeyRankings?

Anon
Anon
BACON
BEACON
If this is true, then why are all EMHL teams ranked lower than every other league last year during the Squirt Major season? What changed if it is an algorithm calculating strength of schedule and goal differential?


Like a poster above said, if you're looking at tier 2 rankings please give it a rest. I'm certain you went to the top ranked community college as well.
Anyone that mentions "EMHL" and "rankings" in the same thought has zero credibility.


Anyone that mentions algorithms and youth hockey in the same thought has zero credibility.


#fedelite4lyfe

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Anon
Oct 16, 2017 - 4:47PM
Re: Does IHC own MyHockeyRankings?

anon
Anon
Anon
BACON
BEACON
If this is true, then why are all EMHL teams ranked lower than every other league last year during the Squirt Major season? What changed if it is an algorithm calculating strength of schedule and goal differential?


Like a poster above said, if you're looking at tier 2 rankings please give it a rest. I'm certain you went to the top ranked community college as well.
Anyone that mentions "EMHL" and "rankings" in the same thought has zero credibility.


Anyone that mentions algorithms and youth hockey in the same thought has zero credibility.


#fedelite4lyfe
EHF is much better about entering scores than most if not all leagues, ensuring that they're at the top of the rankings. They use the site as a marketing tool, and they do it very well, like most of their marketing efforts. It's the deranged parents that think it means something.

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Anon
Oct 17, 2017 - 8:35AM
Re: Does IHC own MyHockeyRankings?

Anon
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Anon
Anon
BACON
BEACON
If this is true, then why are all EMHL teams ranked lower than every other league last year during the Squirt Major season? What changed if it is an algorithm calculating strength of schedule and goal differential?


Like a poster above said, if you're looking at tier 2 rankings please give it a rest. I'm certain you went to the top ranked community college as well.
Anyone that mentions "EMHL" and "rankings" in the same thought has zero credibility.


Anyone that mentions algorithms and youth hockey in the same thought has zero credibility.


#fedelite4lyfe
EHF is much better about entering scores than most if not all leagues, ensuring that they're at the top of the rankings. They use the site as a marketing tool, and they do it very well, like most of their marketing efforts. It's the deranged parents that think it means something.


Sorry your scores got cut

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Anon
Oct 17, 2017 - 8:50AM
Re: Does IHC own MyHockeyRankings?

Anon
Anon
anon
Anon
Anon
BACON
BEACON
If this is true, then why are all EMHL teams ranked lower than every other league last year during the Squirt Major season? What changed if it is an algorithm calculating strength of schedule and goal differential?


Like a poster above said, if you're looking at tier 2 rankings please give it a rest. I'm certain you went to the top ranked community college as well.
Anyone that mentions "EMHL" and "rankings" in the same thought has zero credibility.


Anyone that mentions algorithms and youth hockey in the same thought has zero credibility.


#fedelite4lyfe
EHF is much better about entering scores than most if not all leagues, ensuring that they're at the top of the rankings. They use the site as a marketing tool, and they do it very well, like most of their marketing efforts. It's the deranged parents that think it means something.


Sorry your scores got cut
In other words, that post is dead on.

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Anon
Oct 17, 2017 - 11:44AM
Re: Does IHC own MyHockeyRankings?

Anomaly. MHR already knows it's the 10th rung of hockey in MA, EMHL dads: enjoy your bender's team sitting atop the rankings in Oct. Once other teams start entering the scores your bender team's drop will be precipitous. (That means fast for you Bunker Hill CC drop-outs)

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Dad
Oct 17, 2017 - 11:53AM
Re: Does IHC own MyHockeyRankings?

Anon
Anomaly. MHR already knows it's the 10th rung of hockey in MA, EMHL dads: enjoy your bender's team sitting atop the rankings in Oct. Once other teams start entering the scores your bender team's drop will be precipitous. (That means fast for you Bunker Hill CC drop-outs)


It's amazing that someone can get this angry over youth hockey.

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Anon
Oct 17, 2017 - 12:39PM
Re: Does IHC own MyHockeyRankings?

Dad
Anon
Anomaly. MHR already knows it's the 10th rung of hockey in MA, EMHL dads: enjoy your bender's team sitting atop the rankings in Oct. Once other teams start entering the scores your bender team's drop will be precipitous. (That means fast for you Bunker Hill CC drop-outs)


It's amazing that someone can get this angry over youth hockey.


Nobody is angry. Stop projecting.

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Anon
Oct 17, 2017 - 1:39PM
Re: Does IHC own MyHockeyRankings?

Anon
Dad
Anon
Anomaly. MHR already knows it's the 10th rung of hockey in MA, EMHL dads: enjoy your bender's team sitting atop the rankings in Oct. Once other teams start entering the scores your bender team's drop will be precipitous. (That means fast for you Bunker Hill CC drop-outs)


It's amazing that someone can get this angry over youth hockey.


Nobody is angry. Stop projecting.


You, my friend, take youth hockey WAY too seriously. Everyone knows it and we all laugh at you behind your back. Cool down.

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anon
Oct 17, 2017 - 11:59AM
Re: Does IHC own MyHockeyRankings?

Anon
Anomaly. MHR already knows it's the 10th rung of hockey in MA, EMHL dads: enjoy your bender's team sitting atop the rankings in Oct. Once other teams start entering the scores your bender team's drop will be precipitous. (That means fast for you Bunker Hill CC drop-outs)

MHR doesn't know anything. They take the scores that are entered into their system by volunteers and run a mathematical formula, then publish the results on their website.

a
Anon
Oct 17, 2017 - 12:44PM
Re: Does IHC own MyHockeyRankings?

anon
Anon
Anomaly. MHR already knows it's the 10th rung of hockey in MA, EMHL dads: enjoy your bender's team sitting atop the rankings in Oct. Once other teams start entering the scores your bender team's drop will be precipitous. (That means fast for you Bunker Hill CC drop-outs)

MHR doesn't know anything. They take the scores that are entered into their system by volunteers and run a mathematical formula, then publish the results on their website.


Correct, it's a ranking website dependent on data entered and verified by volunteers. Rankings are susceptible to early season inaccuracies due to limited data set/sample size. That said, it's a self-correcting system becoming increasingly accurate as the season progresses.

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anon
Oct 17, 2017 - 1:16PM
Re: Does IHC own MyHockeyRankings?

So are the rankings accurate?

a
Anon
Oct 17, 2017 - 1:41PM
Re: Does IHC own MyHockeyRankings?

Anon
anon
Anon
Anomaly. MHR already knows it's the 10th rung of hockey in MA, EMHL dads: enjoy your bender's team sitting atop the rankings in Oct. Once other teams start entering the scores your bender team's drop will be precipitous. (That means fast for you Bunker Hill CC drop-outs)

MHR doesn't know anything. They take the scores that are entered into their system by volunteers and run a mathematical formula, then publish the results on their website.


Correct, it's a ranking website dependent on data entered and verified by volunteers. Rankings are susceptible to early season inaccuracies due to limited data set/sample size. That said, it's a self-correcting system becoming increasingly accurate as the season progresses.



^^^Exactly. Now can we stop it with the conspiracy theories?

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Anon
Oct 18, 2017 - 7:42AM
Re: Does IHC own MyHockeyRankings?

Anon
Anomaly. MHR already knows it's the 10th rung of hockey in MA, EMHL dads: enjoy your bender's team sitting atop the rankings in Oct. Once other teams start entering the scores your bender team's drop will be precipitous. (That means fast for you Bunker Hill CC drop-outs)


So this happened....

MM Flames (EMHL) drop from 1 to 86
NE Wolverines (EMHL) drop from 2 to 103

You you were saying EMHL dad?

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A Non
Oct 18, 2017 - 4:33PM
Re: Does IHC own MyHockeyRankings?

Anon
Anon
Anomaly. MHR already knows it's the 10th rung of hockey in MA, EMHL dads: enjoy your bender's team sitting atop the rankings in Oct. Once other teams start entering the scores your bender team's drop will be precipitous. (That means fast for you Bunker Hill CC drop-outs)


So this happened....

MM Flames (EMHL) drop from 1 to 86
NE Wolverines (EMHL) drop from 2 to 103

You you were saying EMHL dad?


EMHL Strength of schedule was too high by 10 or so. Now that it's fixed, the universe can return to normal and people can start crowing about the CSDHL etc...

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Anon
Oct 11, 2017 - 11:50AM
Re: Does IHC own MyHockeyRankings?

Anon
I mean.... That's got to be the only way.... Right?
There are so many teams and scores missing, it's borderline useless information. But great reading material for obsessed, delusional parents.

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anon
Oct 11, 2017 - 11:53AM
Re: Does IHC own MyHockeyRankings?

Anon
I mean.... That's got to be the only way.... Right?

Goes to show you it doesn't mean the higher ranked team is necessarily better. It's a math formula, not a talent evaluator. A good tool for pairing teams in tournament play, not a definitive system for identifying the best team.

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Kirby Hocutt
Oct 11, 2017 - 1:18PM
Re: Does IHC own MyHockeyRankings?

Sounds like you may need a committee to decide who is really the top teams.

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Wolverine
Oct 12, 2017 - 9:08AM
Re: Does IHC own MyHockeyRankings?

My hockey is not perfect.. but the math does a good job identifying the top 20.. I think after that the rankings are suspect

Wolverine

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anon
Oct 11, 2017 - 1:39PM
Re: Does IHC own MyHockeyRankings?

Anon
I mean.... That's got to be the only way.... Right?


Sorry your kid got cut!

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