My kid is one of two goalies on a pee-wee minor team. In between periods in games that my kid isn't playing, he talks to his co-goalie and attempts to tell him the good things he is doing and to tell him if he is leaving his five-hole open, or if he his dropping his glove. My son's co-goalie is new to the team (he was on an elite team last year and "dropped down" to Tier 1) and my son did the same thing for the past two seasons with his old teammate. My son expects the same when he is playing. The new kid, however, doesn't give my kid any feedback. After a game where we lost 8-3 with the new kid in goal the new kid's father asked me to have my son stop "critiquing" his kid in-between periods (his kid gave up 3 goals in the first period, so not sure if my son started his "critique" during warm-ups, or not). I have spoken to the coaches, who think there is nothing wrong with what my son is doing. Is it me, or is this new kid's dad being difficult? I honestly don't know how other teams with two goalies handle this situation.
Tell your kid to mind his own business and you do the same.
Goalie dad here. Have seen it all. Great position but creates a lot of stress for the goalies and goalie parents ( Yes, I know it is not about us, it's about the kid). Goalie partners and parents (Present company included) can be thin skinned. Your intentions could be honorable but perhaps it was the timing or the delivery. Best way to handle this going forward, film portions of the practices, games, goalie sessions. When both goalies are present share film with the dad. Let him decide what to do with it.
Your players are at an age when talent, dedication, determination are starting to take over. Players and families start dropping out for a variety of reasons. Your son may view being critiqued as an opportunity to fix things and get better whereas another goalie may see it as a reminder that he is falling behind and failing. It seems obvious that this stressed them both out. Goalie was in net for 8 goals. Obviously, he and dad were talking about this after the game and searching for answers.
Tell your kid to always be a great goalie partner. Look at Marc Andre Fleury the last two playoffs! Amazing team first attitude. Thats why he is so beloved by all!
Every goalie gets lit up and development is not always straight up. The Dboard crowd is made up of a vast majority of position player parents who may GET IT but have never lived it. Best for goalie people to stick together and help each other.
I am a coach so reading this is comical as I have to deal with it most years. The only thing crazier and more helicopter like then a hockey parent is a parent of a hockey player that is a goalie! It’s never their fault and for some reason whether it’s the player or the parent they feel they are the patriarchs of the team.
Your kid is good on some days and bad on others, just like any other player. They are not special. They are just another player on the team. They don’t need that special bond. What they need to do is realize they have a job to do and stay focused and do it. Every team dynamic is different and that is not to say one is better than another. If the kid is not interested in listening to your little All-Star tell him to shut his pie hole and focus on his own GAA.
Thanks for validating for the 1000th time that goalie parents are complete wackos.
You don't need 2 goalies until Pee Wee Minor. Let the goalies develop. It nice to see 2 goalies at practice but that's it.
sounds to me like the kid crying to his dad is afraid of losing his status as "the goalie" of the team. Better to see how the team reacts to whoever is in net. It's a tell sign if kids on the bench are shaking their heads at the goalie that is giving up poor goals as opposed to the goalie on the bench who is trying to help his buddy, yet the rest of the team would rather play in front of him instead of the crybaby goalie. It's peewwees, time to be accountable! Dad can't cover for you anymore, kid!
This is something that the 2 boys should have discussed at the biginning of the year. If both agreed on it then it would have been appropriate. If the other kid never "coached" your kid then maybe your kid should have taken the hint. Regardless, discussing the position with each other is not a bad idea. 90% of teams have no goalie coach or a coach that has a clue about goaltending (most will admit as much). I have always encouraged the kids to "talk" to each other about the position. What they find success in doing, maybe notice something the kid is doing different and why, etc. It is not appropriate to criticize every goal the kid gave up and what he should have done differently. That is not being a good teammate to your partner. Never discuss this stuff during the game. I want my goalies concentrating on the next shot and not what they could have done on the last one. After the game is appropriate
All that being said, almost every goalie has a goalie coach or instructor they go to. Let those instructors do what they are being paid to do and coach the goalies. Talking to each other about goaltending is not a problem and can be constructive. Coaching or criticizing each other can and will be.
PS: lose the go pro
tell your kid to zip it. Period. Would drive my kid nuts to listen to that all game.
Oh man, this is gold ! We need more goalie parents on here asap !
The most clueless person in any hockey arena at any given time is the goalie parent who never played hockey !
Shouldn't what your Son is doing really be the coaches job? Are forwards and defense evaluating other lines when they are out there? I don't think so....