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Re: 95 Giants???

Anon
CNN
What about the 08 Team Elite will most of the kids be coming back or jumping to the Kings!
So tired of hearing/reading this. Yes, several of our kids have been skating at the Kings practices but that doesn't mean they're jumping ship. It's just free ice time.
Sure bud. Free ice time. None of those kids are leaving.

Re: 95 Giants???

Anon
Anon
CNN
What about the 08 Team Elite will most of the kids be coming back or jumping to the Kings!
So tired of hearing/reading this. Yes, several of our kids have been skating at the Kings practices but that doesn\'t mean they\'re jumping ship. It\'s just free ice time.
Sure bud. Free ice time. None of those kids are leaving.
If a kid is skating with another team more than 1 time, it is because their parents WANT to move.
Saying extra ice time is an easy way for the parents to not address it just in case they actually make the other team.

Re: 95 Giants???

You are better off trying out for the 07 Knights teams up the road. They have 2 teams there. At least you get JL running skills there.

Re: 95 Giants???

Anon
CNN
What about the 08 Team Elite will most of the kids be coming back or jumping to the Kings!
So tired of hearing/reading this. Yes, several of our kids have been skating at the Kings practices but that doesn't mean they're jumping ship. It's just free ice time.
hmmmm, someone is defensive

Re: 95 Giants???

Anon
Anon
CNN
What about the 08 Team Elite will most of the kids be coming back or jumping to the Kings!
So tired of hearing/reading this. Yes, several of our kids have been skating at the Kings practices but that doesn\'t mean they\'re jumping ship. It\'s just free ice time.
hmmmm, someone is defensive
I'm not being defensive I just don't buy it. This is a first place team and these are our best players we're talking about. They get lots of ice time. Why would they leave?

Re: 95 Giants???

Anon
Anon
Anon
CNN
What about the 08 Team Elite will most of the kids be coming back or jumping to the Kings!
So tired of hearing/reading this. Yes, several of our kids have been skating at the Kings practices but that doesn\\'t mean they\\'re jumping ship. It\\'s just free ice time.
hmmmm, someone is defensive
I'm not being defensive I just don't buy it. This is a first place team and these are our best players we're talking about. They get lots of ice time. Why would they leave?
Better competition to grow as a player, a more stable program/rink, a chance to play with better teammates, a chance to play on a team that actually plays in tournaments, etc.

I don't have a horse in this game, but if you are on the 95 Giants and have the opportunity to play for the Kings/Bandits EHF elite, you do it.

Re: 95 Giants???

Anon
CNN
What about the 08 Team Elite will most of the kids be coming back or jumping to the Kings!
So tired of hearing/reading this. Yes, several of our kids have been skating at the Kings practices but that doesn't mean they're jumping ship. It's just free ice time.
^^^LOL - You really believe that?

Re: 95 Giants???

CNN
What about the 08 Team Elite will most of the kids be coming back or jumping to the Kings!
Heard the coach has a school bus picking up anyone from Norwood to Attleboro. Either way you will be coming to the Kingdom after next season.

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Yikes!!! Thank you for info

Re: 95 Giants???

New program in 2016-17, so it is good for 07/06 and below teams where the kids start playing for them at an early age and develop at a faster rate. Other teams are made up of a mix of lower end club kids and town hockey players whose parents always hoped for a chance to have johnny play club.

For the 04, 03 and the 05s to some degree, it is too late to hop on the club level bandwagon and hope johnny suddenly kicks it into gear now that they have paid skills coaches....even as a BHL-N player.. The needed development has passed these 04 and 03 kids by and old habits or lack of effort/commitment can't be changed. Those older kids would have been better suited to stay in PHL or SSC.

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Agree to a great extent to what you are saying.... however for folks paying in full, $3600 upfront does not give Lovell the right to essentiallly F those 2006-2003 kids over... at both the “elite” and “selects” level.... I don’t think any of those parents are under the delusion that their kid is playing D1 hockey in college but they were signing up for solid, continual coaching, competitive play, a team atmosphere, and at least a two line team. None of that delivered on. Oh and what you wrote in your post, the kids plainly are made to feel that way... they aren’t stupid. But I hope when the majority of them go through puberty they kick some butt on the hockey scene and make you eat your words!

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Who would want to pay $3500 to the 95giants and play in the BHL. The EHF silver division is more competitive. Not to mention the financial issues the rink has

Re: 95 Giants???

Anon
Who would want to pay $3500 to the 95giants and play in the BHL. The EHF silver division is more competitive. Not to mention the financial issues the rink has
I see what you did there. Kinda surprised someone did not jump on it. Unfortunately, time to change baits son !

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How can a coach go around recruiting, when you/we know you only have 1 stud on the team. Really E9 material!:laughing:

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You can be mad or can look at it this way. Your son, who is about to be cut, got at least one year of playing non-town hockey. I’m assuming you don’t like RL because he either benched, yelled at, or is going to cut your kid

Re: 95 Giants???

Anon
Agree to a great extent to what you are saying.... however for folks paying in full, $3600 upfront does not give Lovell the right to essentiallly F those 2006-2003 kids over... at both the “elite” and “selects” level.... I don’t think any of those parents are under the delusion that their kid is playing D1 hockey in college but they were signing up for solid, continual coaching, competitive play, a team atmosphere, and at least a two line team. None of that delivered on. Oh and what you wrote in your post, the kids plainly are made to feel that way... they aren’t stupid. But I hope when the majority of them go through puberty they kick some butt on the hockey scene and make you eat your words!
easy Francis.

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Like every program, depends on level. And yes, the poster is correct about skills. Some families don’t like their kids being yelled at for not paying attention or goofing off so that’s fine. Same was said about TL. Just don’t try and compare any local skills to any of the Lovell programs, especially BA and Giants. They are good.

Re: 95 Giants???

Anonmm
New program in 2016-17, so it is good for 07/06 and below teams where the kids start playing for them at an early age and develop at a faster rate. Other teams are made up of a mix of lower end club kids and town hockey players whose parents always hoped for a chance to have johnny play club.

For the 04, 03 and the 05s to some degree, it is too late to hop on the club level bandwagon and hope johnny suddenly kicks it into gear now that they have paid skills coaches....even as a BHL-N player.. The needed development has passed these 04 and 03 kids by and old habits or lack of effort/commitment can't be changed. Those older kids would have been better suited to stay in PHL or SSC.
What do you expect for a new program? At the older level, most kids have a home. If they are leaving their programs at that older level there is usually a reason....not a kid who can be coached, Parents who think their kid is a star and not getting the attention at their current level, or they just plain got cut. The good player who was just in a bad situation who leaves at that level is the exception, not the rule. So you get a team of misfits

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OMG there’s a great marketing slogan for Lovell... “ got a kid aged 2006 or above? Got $3600 burning a hole in your pocket? Looking for an opportunity for Little Johnny to grow his skills above state league? Then come to the 95 Giants where we will match him up with a bunch of other hockey misfits!” Ohh that sounds so good! If it’s a new organization then where do you think you are going to attract kids from?? State leagues! I wouldn’t **** on them too much... that’s where there is cash to be made! And if you go to My Hockey Rankings for any age group,you’ll see a number of A level state league teams ranked right up against AAA and Elite teams from across the country! makes me laugh... I wouldn’t call them misfits... I’d call them SUCKERS!!! Lol

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Giants are folding. New Lovell team and management for Attleboro.

Re: 95 Giants???

anon
Giants are folding. New Lovell team and management for Attleboro.
Well that disaster didn't last very long...Im sure no one is surprised...Ive heard nothing but bad things concerning all levels of the Giants.

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You people are morons. Sorry your kid is getting cut as they upgrade.

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Upgrade? To what?...

They'll have tryouts, get checks, then change to Generals with new management and some new coaches.

Have fun!

Re: 95 Giants???

anon
Upgrade? To what?...

They'll have tryouts, get checks, then change to Generals with new management and some new coaches.

Have fun!
Well, if they get rid of that drunk punk, that would be an upgrade.

Re: 95 Giants???

Anon
You people are morons. Sorry your kid is getting cut as they upgrade.
upgrade to what? you know its bad when players are looking to leave a crappy team. Upgrades...Thats funny

Re: 95 Giants???

Anon
Anon
You people are morons. Sorry your kid is getting cut as they upgrade.
upgrade to what? you know its bad when players are looking to leave a crappy team. Upgrades...Thats funny
First off, they do not cut anyone !! while they may this year if there are some incoming players better than what they have, but it is what it is. A newer program that as a result of some issues with the building and what not did not field a lot of talent the first few years. That is changing and it will get better and the few kids scattered throughout that are really good will and have been moving to better teams.

But at some levels the teams are several steps below town hockey and are made up of all kids that were selected for C or B teams at the town level and could never even make an A team at the town level so mom and dad left because the town could not see their potential.

Only to play with the same kids they would have been playing with at the same level they were playing with.

But if you are one of those parents who is excited to say your kid plays for the elite team and ignore the fact they they are ranked 700 in the Tier 2 standings then maybe it is fine.

If you want your kid to get better and sty for location, convenience and skills and a realist, they enjoy it and your kid will definitively get better with Lovell skills.

and lastly, your post is ridiculous. Doesn't every kid want to leave a crappy team, who wants to stay with a crappy team, so your comment of "you know its bad" is preposterous

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It is very apparent that there is one, maybe two folks who aren't happy with the program and are spreading rumors about them folding, not having ice, director is a jerk, blah blah blah....same rumor-mill for other programs. Lovell has 16 teams there, plus their Juniors teams. At least 2 additional teams being added next year. Like every year, there will be a rotation of kids between all the local programs. When all said and done, the rink sells a ton of ice, Lovell makes a ton of money and the kids improve way more than they would playing town hockey or for programs like the the Huskies, Caps or Saints, as all those ones have useless daddy coaches.

Focus less on wins and losses and more on quality instruction and ice time folks.

Re: 95 Giants???

Anon
It is very apparent that there is one, maybe two folks who aren't happy with the program and are spreading rumors about them folding, not having ice, director is a jerk, blah blah blah....same rumor-mill for other programs. Lovell has 16 teams there, plus their Juniors teams. At least 2 additional teams being added next year. Like every year, there will be a rotation of kids between all the local programs. When all said and done, the rink sells a ton of ice, Lovell makes a ton of money and the kids improve way more than they would playing town hockey or for programs like the the Huskies, Caps or Saints, as all those ones have useless daddy coaches.

Focus less on wins and losses and more on quality instruction and ice time folks.
Talk about the Caps and we'll buy you out!:laughing:

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“Useless daddy coaches”.... I love it! You are right on the money, sir! Consider it a gift, folks, when your kid plays on team where the coach doesn’t have his kid on the team! Oh I’m sure there’s plenty of coaches here who like to believe they aren’t biased toward their kid, but when you get a paid coach with no skin in the game other than to develop the team, you’ve hit the jackpot! FYI not all Lovell teams use “daddy-free” coaches...

Re: 95 Giants???

Anon
Rich you better do some talking to families in your hockey network... I don’t know anyone in the 2006 birth year and up, our family included, who plans on going back to that organization. Definitely not worth the $3600 price tag to play in the BHL (I don’t think they have any E9 reams at any age level). 2007 team roster is pretty packed... that being said I’m sure they’ll cut a few and take a few exceptional players. 2007 coach is a good guy. That being said, at the upper age groups the Lovell’s have shown themselves to frankly give crap... how would you like to spend $3600 and have your son play in a half rostered team, have a coach that also coaches five other teams, go to games and have a bunch of random players from other Lovell teams show up that no one on the team knows, and then have coaching no shows so parents have to jump on the bench to avoid a forfeit, have to beg to be able to play in a tournament (any tournament, still nothing booked yet) have fellow parents email and call the Lovell’s with no reply. The whole situation sucks. Hopefully Lovell’s will wake up and get their heads out of the Boston Advantage teams to give one ounce of attention to the multitude of other teams they have created but could obviously care about... that will change when they witness the March exodus. For years was told how fantastic the Lovell organization is. Highly disappointing. My advice is look elsewhere. But don’t take it from me... do some digging around before you invest in this organization!
I agree with a lot of this. The brothers are spread so thin that very few families are happy at this stage. Don't forget that they also run the NE Generals, Middlesex Icemen and EC Leafs in addition to the already mentioned BA, Knights and Giants. Can you name one other organization that successfully runs three separate and distinct programs, let alone six? In five different rinks (Hingham, Raynham, East Boston, Attleboro, Hopedale)?

Oh I forgot about the Hockey School, Tropics, Baked Beans and Futures Tournaments.

Even much smaller hockey organizations have full time GMs, accountants, schedulers, etc. Who are the GMs of these teams that you can contact for info? Anyone whose name doesn't start with an L and end in an ovell?

Hey, I give them credit. They have a fiercely loyal following. If you are a "Friend of Lovell" your kid is treated well and opportunities abound. Everyone else - well if you go in not believing a word of what you're told, they'll probably meet or exceed your expectations.

We cycled through for six months and got out, and are much happier for it.

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Thank you all for your info. Considering the 2007 and 2010 future, I'm between New England knights and terrier program. Going to watch teams play in next few weeks. And try to talk to coaches. 2007 looking to see a good goalie and good play, good environment for the 2010. Again thank you all and best of luck for all.

Re: 95 Giants???

Rich
Thank you all for your info. Considering the 2007 and 2010 future, I'm between New England knights and terrier program. Going to watch teams play in next few weeks. And try to talk to coaches. 2007 looking to see a good goalie and good play, good environment for the 2010. Again thank you all and best of luck for all.
Is your son coming from town hockey or another club team?

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Your kid didn’t cycle through for six months. He was horrible. Playing way over his head. We know who you are idiot. You don’t like them because your kid was not Goodnuf to play here. You were used to coaching your kid so you can throw him out there all the time. The second you brought him to an organization with an independent coach that held him accountable for all his mistakes that bothered you. Just be honest with yourself.

Program is working the kinks out. Director in over his head so will have a lot more support next year. No financial troubles at the rink at all. That is all rumor. They also have an ironclad long-term lease with a ton of ice.

OP, good luck with your decision.

Re: 95 Giants???

Anon
Your kid didn’t cycle through for six months. He was horrible. Playing way over his head. We know who you are idiot. You don’t like them because your kid was not Goodnuf to play here. You were used to coaching your kid so you can throw him out there all the time. The second you brought him to an organization with an independent coach that held him accountable for all his mistakes that bothered you. Just be honest with yourself.

Program is working the kinks out. Director in over his head so will have a lot more support next year. No financial troubles at the rink at all. That is all rumor. They also have an ironclad long-term lease with a ton of ice.

OP, good luck with your decision.
Who are you talking to?!

Re: 95 Giants???

Anon
Anon
Your kid didn’t cycle through for six months. He was horrible. Playing way over his head. We know who you are idiot. You don’t like them because your kid was not Goodnuf to play here. You were used to coaching your kid so you can throw him out there all the time. The second you brought him to an organization with an independent coach that held him accountable for all his mistakes that bothered you. Just be honest with yourself.

Program is working the kinks out. Director in over his head so will have a lot more support next year. No financial troubles at the rink at all. That is all rumor. They also have an ironclad long-term lease with a ton of ice.

OP, good luck with your decision.
Who are you talking to?!
Me.

You don't know me, you don't know my kid. So, why the personal attack? Do you feel better about yourself now? Bigger? Good. Hope it was worth it.

Wait. I know you, you're the M******* that won't allow for alternate merge in traffic. Because those 12 feet are oh, so important.

Crack a beer this weekend and ask yourself, why am I so angry that I would vent my hostility toward people I don't even know?

You'll live longer.

Thar'll be $125. I'll provide a receipt for your insurance.

Re: 95 Giants???

Anon
Rich you better do some talking to families in your hockey network... I don’t know anyone in the 2006 birth year and up, our family included, who plans on going back to that organization. Definitely not worth the $3600 price tag to play in the BHL (I don’t think they have any E9 reams at any age level). 2007 team roster is pretty packed... that being said I’m sure they’ll cut a few and take a few exceptional players. 2007 coach is a good guy. That being said, at the upper age groups the Lovell’s have shown themselves to frankly give crap... how would you like to spend $3600 and have your son play in a half rostered team, have a coach that also coaches five other teams, go to games and have a bunch of random players from other Lovell teams show up that no one on the team knows, and then have coaching no shows so parents have to jump on the bench to avoid a forfeit, have to beg to be able to play in a tournament (any tournament, still nothing booked yet) have fellow parents email and call the Lovell’s with no reply. The whole situation sucks. Hopefully Lovell’s will wake up and get their heads out of the Boston Advantage teams to give one ounce of attention to the multitude of other teams they have created but could obviously care about... that will change when they witness the March exodus. For years was told how fantastic the Lovell organization is. Highly disappointing. My advice is look elsewhere. But don’t take it from me... do some digging around before you invest in this organization!
My kid doesn't play there but I personally know a handful of 06 kids that play there and are coming back. Don't lay it on too thick....it appears spiteful when you do

Re: 95 Giants???

There is only 1 child staying with the 06 95 Giants team. I know this because we(parents of current outgoing team) have all discussed where everyone is going. No one had a good experience,...no one!

Re: 95 Giants???

Anon
There is only 1 child staying with the 06 95 Giants team. I know this because we(parents of current outgoing team) have all discussed where everyone is going. No one had a good experience,...no one!
Its a **** show over there...Not fair to kids or parents to put up with that kind of treatment...C'mon Joe your better than that...a lot of kids/parents lost/wasted a full year of hockey because of all the drama and mismanagement...pretty sad to say the least...:disappointed: :disappointed: :disappointed: :disappointed:

Re: 95 Giants???

Anon
There is only 1 child staying with the 06 95 Giants team. I know this because we(parents of current outgoing team) have all discussed where everyone is going. No one had a good experience,...no one!
let me guess, former rink owners son is staying.

Re: 95 Giants???

Anon
Anon
There is only 1 child staying with the 06 95 Giants team. I know this because we(parents of current outgoing team) have all discussed where everyone is going. No one had a good experience,...no one!
let me guess, former rink owners son is staying.
We have a winner...:clap:

Re: 95 Giants???

Anon
Anon
Anon
There is only 1 child staying with the 06 95 Giants team. I know this because we(parents of current outgoing team) have all discussed where everyone is going. No one had a good experience,...no one!
let me guess, former rink owners son is staying.
We have a winner...:clap:
Rink drama at it's finest!

Re: 95 Giants???

Anon
Anon
Anon
There is only 1 child staying with the 06 95 Giants team. I know this because we(parents of current outgoing team) have all discussed where everyone is going. No one had a good experience,...no one!
let me guess, former rink owners son is staying.
We have a winner...:clap:
He is the stereotypical daddy coach. His kids are on the wrong level teams and everyone knows it. That is all the parents on the teams talk about. One family impacting 3 teams....now that's a record.

Re: 95 Giants???

Anon
Anon
There is only 1 child staying with the 06 95 Giants team. I know this because we(parents of current outgoing team) have all discussed where everyone is going. No one had a good experience,...no one!
let me guess, former rink owners son is staying.
I assume at the 05E level too ? hilarious !

Re: 95 Giants???

Anon
Anon
Anon
There is only 1 child staying with the 06 95 Giants team. I know this because we(parents of current outgoing team) have all discussed where everyone is going. No one had a good experience,...no one!
let me guess, former rink owners son is staying.
I assume at the 05E level too ? hilarious !
You betcha, a first liner!
Parents last year were beside themselves over it.

Re: 95 Giants???

Anon
Anon
Anon
Anon
There is only 1 child staying with the 06 95 Giants team. I know this because we(parents of current outgoing team) have all discussed where everyone is going. No one had a good experience,...no one!
let me guess, former rink owners son is staying.
I assume at the 05E level too ? hilarious !
You betcha, a first liner!
Parents last year were beside themselves over it.
Gotta love the Daddy Coach effect...:man: :man: :boy: :boy:

Re: 95 Giants???

Anon
Anon
Anon
Anon
There is only 1 child staying with the 06 95 Giants team. I know this because we(parents of current outgoing team) have all discussed where everyone is going. No one had a good experience,...no one!
let me guess, former rink owners son is staying.
I assume at the 05E level too ? hilarious !
You betcha, a first liner!
Parents last year were beside themselves over it.
Last year ? This has been an issue the past 4 years !!

Re: 95 Giants???

Anon
Anon
Anon
Anon
Anon
There is only 1 child staying with the 06 95 Giants team. I know this because we(parents of current outgoing team) have all discussed where everyone is going. No one had a good experience,...no one!
let me guess, former rink owners son is staying.
I assume at the 05E level too ? hilarious !
You betcha, a first liner!
Parents last year were beside themselves over it.
Last year ? This has been an issue the past 4 years !!
Giants have only had 2 seasons, sooooo.......

Re: 95 Giants???

Anon
Anon
Anon
Anon
Anon
Anon
There is only 1 child staying with the 06 95 Giants team. I know this because we(parents of current outgoing team) have all discussed where everyone is going. No one had a good experience,...no one!
let me guess, former rink owners son is staying.
I assume at the 05E level too ? hilarious !
You betcha, a first liner!
Parents last year were beside themselves over it.
Last year ? This has been an issue the past 4 years !!
Giants have only had 2 seasons, sooooo.......
You are forgetting or unaware of the two prior seasons at Knights ! Get your facts straight before you make sarcastic remarks !

But, since you are not aware and now you are maybe you will see the reasons for the initial need of the NESV and a new program there...it was so his kid would have a place to play !!

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Kind of confused by this. Which team are you talking about? Elite or select? And if you aren’t returning because of one kid, and I mean the entire team, that kid must have been seriously impactful to be solely responsible for a -47 goal differential. If you are blaming one kid or family for an entire team stinking maybe you need to look in a mirror! Many teams/ families over there having a lot of success, seems like you are an aberration. Why is that? And I wonder where you are going? You are lucky if you have this all sorted out before tryouts for ehf teams. Unless, hmm, maybe you have no plan.

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Anon
Kind of confused by this. Which team are you talking about? Elite or select? And if you aren’t returning because of one kid, and I mean the entire team, that kid must have been seriously impactful to be solely responsible for a -47 goal differential. If you are blaming one kid or family for an entire team stinking maybe you need to look in a mirror! Many teams/ families over there having a lot of success, seems like you are an aberration. Why is that? And I wonder where you are going? You are lucky if you have this all sorted out before tryouts for ehf teams. Unless, hmm, maybe you have no plan.
Jesus, learn to read. No one said one kid caused everyone to leave. They said one kid was staying.

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Rich
Anyone know anything on 2007's and if they have a 2010 program tough to get info from website.
Skills are top notch. Highly recommended

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I understand there will not be a 2010 team. That age group is very thin. Low numbers all over. 07s are a solid team. People are staying on that team. They did pretty well and had a good year. 06/05/04/03 were all shaky. 05s were terrible. Not sure how they will fix that. The 04s are looking to restructure, I think. They have a new, non-parent coach. Anybody know if those kids are staying? U14 is such a weird year.

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There are now 2 2007 teams there

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Anon
I understand there will not be a 2010 team. That age group is very thin. Low numbers all over. 07s are a solid team. People are staying on that team. They did pretty well and had a good year. 06/05/04/03 were all shaky. 05s were terrible. Not sure how they will fix that. The 04s are looking to restructure, I think. They have a new, non-parent coach. Anybody know if those kids are staying? U14 is such a weird year.
Yes 2004 playing full season U14. Awesome non daddy coach with serious hockey cred. Already had tryouts. Mostly 8th graders with 9th graders committed to team, not JV high school hockey.

Re: 95 Giants???

Anon
Anon
I understand there will not be a 2010 team. That age group is very thin. Low numbers all over. 07s are a solid team. People are staying on that team. They did pretty well and had a good year. 06/05/04/03 were all shaky. 05s were terrible. Not sure how they will fix that. The 04s are looking to restructure, I think. They have a new, non-parent coach. Anybody know if those kids are staying? U14 is such a weird year.
Yes 2004 playing full season U14. Awesome non daddy coach with serious hockey cred. Already had tryouts. Mostly 8th graders with 9th graders committed to team, not JV high school hockey.
The tryout that 6 kids showed up for ?

Re: 95 Giants???

Giants are struggling to get enough kids this year. Too many surrounding teams.