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a

Feb 7, 2018 - 9:35AM

Re: Town hockey alternates

Anon

Someone can correct me if I am wrong...

But when my oldest son starting playing about 8 years ago, I was under the impression that the Mass Select League required its kids to play town hockey first and then offered a limited game and/or practice schedule. During this time, our town had a lot of club kids playing full time and it seemed like a good balance. There were several town pee wee teams and a couple of bantam teams, so kids could largely play with similar talent. Now our town often runs into the problem of having 1 overcrowded or 2 undermanned Bantam team(s), etc.

i think you're right, and I have no idea if it still exists or not. But, towns were doing all sorts of things to circumvent the rules, usually to the benefit of the "elite" players.

At least in my town program. Which was all about politics.

a

Feb 7, 2018 - 10:27AM

Re: Town hockey alternates

Anon

Anon

Someone can correct me if I am wrong...

But when my oldest son starting playing about 8 years ago, I was under the impression that the Mass Select League required its kids to play town hockey first and then offered a limited game and/or practice schedule. During this time, our town had a lot of club kids playing full time and it seemed like a good balance. There were several town pee wee teams and a couple of bantam teams, so kids could largely play with similar talent. Now our town often runs into the problem of having 1 overcrowded or 2 undermanned Bantam team(s), etc.

i think you're right, and I have no idea if it still exists or not. But, towns were doing all sorts of things to circumvent the rules, usually to the benefit of the "elite" players.

At least in my town program. Which was all about politics.

No team requires players play town any longer and nor should they. PLay for your one team and be done with it. Of your paying 3500 plus for 5 skates a week why on earth would you make your kid play the other 2 or double duty on a town team.

a

Feb 7, 2018 - 10:52AM

Re: Town hockey alternates

Anon

Anon

Anon

Someone can correct me if I am wrong...

But when my oldest son starting playing about 8 years ago, I was under the impression that the Mass Select League required its kids to play town hockey first and then offered a limited game and/or practice schedule. During this time, our town had a lot of club kids playing full time and it seemed like a good balance. There were several town pee wee teams and a couple of bantam teams, so kids could largely play with similar talent. Now our town often runs into the problem of having 1 overcrowded or 2 undermanned Bantam team(s), etc.

i think you\'re right, and I have no idea if it still exists or not. But, towns were doing all sorts of things to circumvent the rules, usually to the benefit of the \"elite\" players.

At least in my town program. Which was all about politics.

No team requires players play town any longer and nor should they. PLay for your one team and be done with it. Of your paying 3500 plus for 5 skates a week why on earth would you make your kid play the other 2 or double duty on a town team.

Some kids who are on the lower half of the roster in select like to play town as well because (a) they get to play with friends and (b) town teams "roll the lines". This obviously doesn't apply to top level players and I've never heard of a parent for a select player "making them play town". Pretty sure that doesn't really happen.

a

Feb 7, 2018 - 11:03AM

Re: Town hockey alternates

Anon

Anon

Anon

Anon

Someone can correct me if I am wrong...

But when my oldest son starting playing about 8 years ago, I was under the impression that the Mass Select League required its kids to play town hockey first and then offered a limited game and/or practice schedule. During this time, our town had a lot of club kids playing full time and it seemed like a good balance. There were several town pee wee teams and a couple of bantam teams, so kids could largely play with similar talent. Now our town often runs into the problem of having 1 overcrowded or 2 undermanned Bantam team(s), etc.

i think you\\\'re right, and I have no idea if it still exists or not. But, towns were doing all sorts of things to circumvent the rules, usually to the benefit of the \\\"elite\\\" players.

At least in my town program. Which was all about politics.

No team requires players play town any longer and nor should they. PLay for your one team and be done with it. Of your paying 3500 plus for 5 skates a week why on earth would you make your kid play the other 2 or double duty on a town team.

Some kids who are on the lower half of the roster in select like to play town as well because (a) they get to play with friends and (b) town teams "roll the lines". This obviously doesn't apply to top level players and I've never heard of a parent for a select player "making them play town". Pretty sure that doesn't really happen.

I don't think the parents "make them play" but then again, they're kids, and they will do what Dad convinces them they should to get to the NHL.

In our town it was ESPECIALLY the top "elite" kids that played on the Town A team when their schedules allowed so they could play half the game and score 7 goals against a goalie that was wearing the pads for the first or second time. (which is how it should be in Mites and Squirts).

a

Feb 7, 2018 - 11:30AM

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Good topic...my son just asked me if he could play on the town team next season. I'm totally against it. First off because he literally wants to be that kid that scores 7 goals a game. We play baseball all summer, and concentrate on hockey all winter. When baseball starts, we will have to deal with the kids who played AAU baseball all winter and run the show. It drives me nuts being on the other side of it so I will not to it in the hockey world. It is what it is, if you kid is good enough to play elite 9-10 year old hockey and you don't mind spending money on it - stay in that world. If your kid is great at baseball, and you are willing spend the money on baseball, stay in that world. No need to rub it anyone face.

a

Feb 7, 2018 - 12:15PM

Re: Town hockey alternates

AAAAA

Good topic...my son just asked me if he could play on the town team next season. I'm totally against it. First off because he literally wants to be that kid that scores 7 goals a game. We play baseball all summer, and concentrate on hockey all winter. When baseball starts, we will have to deal with the kids who played AAU baseball all winter and run the show. It drives me nuts being on the other side of it so I will not to it in the hockey world. It is what it is, if you kid is good enough to play elite 9-10 year old hockey and you don't mind spending money on it - stay in that world. If your kid is great at baseball, and you are willing spend the money on baseball, stay in that world. No need to rub it anyone face.

Completely agree with your point. Our town is horrendous with this when it comes to town baseball. Daddy coaches building one or two stacked teams of AAU kids to beat the tar out of the other teams of kids who just want to play baseball. If that is your prime motivation just stay in the select/club/AAU world (and get a life).

a

Feb 7, 2018 - 1:00PM

Re: Town hockey alternates

Anon

AAAAA

Good topic...my son just asked me if he could play on the town team next season. I\'m totally against it. First off because he literally wants to be that kid that scores 7 goals a game. We play baseball all summer, and concentrate on hockey all winter. When baseball starts, we will have to deal with the kids who played AAU baseball all winter and run the show. It drives me nuts being on the other side of it so I will not to it in the hockey world. It is what it is, if you kid is good enough to play elite 9-10 year old hockey and you don\'t mind spending money on it - stay in that world. If your kid is great at baseball, and you are willing spend the money on baseball, stay in that world. No need to rub it anyone face.

Completely agree with your point. Our town is horrendous with this when it comes to town baseball. Daddy coaches building one or two stacked teams of AAU kids to beat the tar out of the other teams of kids who just want to play baseball. If that is your prime motivation just stay in the select/club/AAU world (and get a life).

My kid was drafted onto one of those teams. He was a good hitter and fielder by town recreational standards but they put all the AAU kids at P, C, SS, 1B etc. The rest of the kids were "short shifted."

It's tough enough for a hockey player to be interested in baseball due to the pace of the game but he lost all interested in the sport and hasn't played since.

a

Feb 7, 2018 - 1:13PM

Re: Town hockey alternates

anon

Anon

AAAAA

Good topic...my son just asked me if he could play on the town team next season. I\\\'m totally against it. First off because he literally wants to be that kid that scores 7 goals a game. We play baseball all summer, and concentrate on hockey all winter. When baseball starts, we will have to deal with the kids who played AAU baseball all winter and run the show. It drives me nuts being on the other side of it so I will not to it in the hockey world. It is what it is, if you kid is good enough to play elite 9-10 year old hockey and you don\\\'t mind spending money on it - stay in that world. If your kid is great at baseball, and you are willing spend the money on baseball, stay in that world. No need to rub it anyone face.

Completely agree with your point. Our town is horrendous with this when it comes to town baseball. Daddy coaches building one or two stacked teams of AAU kids to beat the tar out of the other teams of kids who just want to play baseball. If that is your prime motivation just stay in the select/club/AAU world (and get a life).

My kid was drafted onto one of those teams. He was a good hitter and fielder by town recreational standards but they put all the AAU kids at P, C, SS, 1B etc. The rest of the kids were "short shifted."

It's tough enough for a hockey player to be interested in baseball due to the pace of the game but he lost all interested in the sport and hasn't played since.

Yup. First time in four years my son told me he doesn't want to play. Lax and spring basketball instead. Decent player but the stacking of teams and carrying on of dad coaches kind of spoiled it for him.

That sport is in real trouble.

a

Feb 7, 2018 - 2:13PM

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Good post - AAU year round baseball has ruined spring town baseball. Kids show up showing gas and the kids that do not train year round cannot compete. I am on the baseball board and we are losing numbers and I believe this is the reason. Not saying its wrong but it gets kids out of the sport by middle school and then it hurts high school as you do not have the numbers to have a freshman and sometimes even a JV team.

a

Feb 7, 2018 - 2:45PM

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Sorry your kids are getting cut from baseball and hockey... yea weird huh. The 8 year old studs aren't studs anymore when they face the kids who have worked hard to get better and are athletically inclined now they they have been playing for a few years. Its every sport !!

a

Feb 7, 2018 - 3:19PM

Re: Town hockey alternates

Anon

Sorry your kids are getting cut from baseball and hockey... yea weird huh. The 8 year old studs aren't studs anymore when they face the kids who have worked hard to get better and are athletically inclined now they they have been playing for a few years. Its every sport !!

awesome way to completely miss the point.

Spring, non-travel town baseball isn't the place to build AAU super teams to lay waste to the rest of the league but people who think like you have made it that.

Go ahead and beat your chest but realize as you do that baseball has become a distant third to lax and soccer when it comes to spring sports in many towns.

a

Feb 7, 2018 - 3:24PM

Re: Town hockey alternates

How do you build a super team in little league. Don’t most towns have drafts where the players are chosen and therefore the talent gets spread around?

a

Feb 7, 2018 - 3:30PM

Re: Town hockey alternates

Anon

How do you build a super team in little league. Don’t most towns have drafts where the players are chosen and therefore the talent gets spread around?

In theory that's how it's supposed to work.

Then the rosters come out and lo and behold several of the kids who play AAU are on the same team.

Funny how that happens.

a

Feb 7, 2018 - 3:45PM

Re: Town hockey alternates

My town has a draft, however there are multiple dad coaches on stacked teams, in many cases, dad coaches start coaching a year before their kids are eligible to ensure he gets on the right team, listed coaches automatically get to draft their kids. There are 4or5 hot teams.

a

Feb 7, 2018 - 3:20PM

Re: Town hockey alternates

Town sports are the worst. In every town the coaches kids or the league officials kids get opportunities they don’t deserve and because of that people are flocking to club sports where playing time and opportunities are based off ability.

a

Feb 7, 2018 - 6:06PM

Re: Town hockey alternates

If Dads aren't coaching many of these teams there is no one to do it. Can someone explain why it's wrong to coach your own kid. I have no problem putting my kid on the bench when he's not cutting it. I know that's not the norm, but there are a lot of fathers out there that coach for the right reasons. And often times the coaches kid(s) are some of the better players on the team, that's a fact.

a

Feb 7, 2018 - 8:38PM

Re: Town hockey alternates

Anon

If Dads aren't coaching many of these teams there is no one to do it. Can someone explain why it's wrong to coach your own kid. I have no problem putting my kid on the bench when he's not cutting it. I know that's not the norm, but there are a lot of fathers out there that coach for the right reasons. And often times the coaches kid(s) are some of the better players on the team, that's a fact.

It's also a fact that sometimes they aren't.

You answered your own question - it's not the norm. And when something is so badly skewed for the wrong reasons, people will object.

a

Feb 8, 2018 - 11:11AM

Re: Town hockey alternates

no problem with Dad coaches, most are very good, better than I. Just put some rules in place and have an honest draft, limit coaches to 3 per team. spread the wealth.

a

Feb 8, 2018 - 11:20AM

Re: Town hockey alternates

Anon

no problem with Dad coaches, most are very good, better than I. Just put some rules in place and have an honest draft, limit coaches to 3 per team. spread the wealth.

There's always Band Camp....I hear Slide trombone players are tough to find...:trumpet: :saxophone: :violin:

a

Feb 8, 2018 - 12:30PM

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Music is not in our blood. We'll just have to play better this year against those stacked teams, just hired a great personal coach for our younger aged Majors.

a

Feb 8, 2018 - 1:55PM

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Now let’s talk about the Williamsport teams and how disgusting it is when the coaches kids who could not hit water if they fell out of a boat seem to make those teams.