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What would you rather, you kid on a team that is 500, but your kid is developing. Or kid plays on a winning team but not developing. Both teams play against each other and ranked top 25 T1.
Always development first. You can keep your first place trophies!
First one no question. We’ve had both. I recently had this conversation with another dad and dead serious he chose second one with jerky kids on top of it. That’s the problem with sports. Winning is way too important in my opinion. No one wants to go 0-30 but 500? Seems like a good number to me. I am now the parent who stands alone by the glass because i am finding it harder and harder to relate to parents and coaches who want to win at all costs. And don’t even get me started on parents yelling at refs... embarrassing.
Tough question. I would go towards development. I had a few kids last year who are now play for a different coach and they have won one or two games all season. One of their parents reached out to me saying that their kid was not really into hockey this year. So this is the extreme example I guess but losing has hurt the kids love of the sport hence they kids are screwing around in practice, skipping practice, etc.
A 500 team for me is a no brainer. Development. I think if you go the extreme - losing all the time, than I would look for a better team.
Same decision here but went with coaching and development over a top EHF team. Trying to look at big picture and what will make him a better, stronger player . Losing every game is never good but neither is winning every game
With some programs you can get both and in some cases the practices will be better than the games...
What age group is this in reference too? big difference between 08/07 and 04/05...
The same 3 teams are consistently in the top 10 nationally, do you think that is because they don't develop their players. Sounds like one of the B level organizations is feeding you some BS. Ranking and development can go hand in hand, and they typically do!
It's a fair point - just look at the Q for evidence. BJE, MMF and MFF are always competitive. IHC also belongs in this group. Do you think they can compete in the best tournaments in the world consistently if they don't develop their players.
Original poster probably plays for Bandits, Breakers or one of the other consistently bad teams.
My advice, don't listen to the **** owners/coaches peddle this time of year when they are trying to keep you. You are trying to convince yourself that staying is the right choice but you know it isn't!
Last night I had to listen to 4 dip sh** dads arguing this question. Couldn't get it out of my head, So I posted to the pros for opinions. My kids Won't be in the bean pot, but get better each year and have fun. Don't know anything about the Q. But in Chicago and Buffalo parents were insane. Hate to lose, but I would hate more to think back on my time with my kids at the rink and being more concerned on winning and what others are saying doing.
This makes me think of the recent ADM hockey article that made the rounds on FB a month or so ago... about kids who were “discovered” or targeted early as being “advanced” hockey players ... how they, rightly or wrongly were picked for the better teams and therefore given access to the better coaches, better ice time, etc... and how that compared to the players who were initially overlooked, who were late bloomers, but far surpassed those early stars in terms of skill, but given that the others had the early advantage, they were put on the right track early on... what I’m trying to say is that outside development does matter, those extra clinics, skating coaches, etc can help but in the end you have to have your kid in the right organization, the right track, to drive their skills to the next level
stupidest post ever. Development you morons.
development should always be the #1 goal until they are midgets or in high school. And then it still should be the #1 goal for the few looking to advance past the HS level.
When push comes to shove; With development comes winning.
However, this raises the other conundrum created in every level of youth hockey in this day and age. What happens when the development environment creates an issue with a team winning too much? Why do parents then say that the league is not good enough? They become league obsessed and leave a good development environment because the team is winning too much, so the team must be holding their kid back.
Was development and winning not the goal of these parents to begin with?
Truth be told, with proper development, the winning will come. The two are not mutually exclusive.