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Collusion in EHF

How ironic that a team loses in the finals, cuts a kid and now King RG has the balls to keep a 12 year old out of the league. Calls in to all owners to keep someone out of EHF. We’ve stooped to a new low. It’s an absolute embarrassment that the King can run the league and collude with other owners to keep someone from playing.

I smell a lawsuit
# Colin Kapernick

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How ironic that a team loses in the finals, cuts a kid and now King RG has the balls to keep a 12 year old out of the league. Calls in to all owners to keep someone out of EHF. We’ve stooped to a new low. It’s an absolute embarrassment that the King can run the league and collude with other owners to keep someone from playing.

I smell a lawsuit
# Colin Kapernick
06 eagles?

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07?

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Spill it

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Its not the first time he's done it and it isn't going to be the last. Money, power, and a feeling insignificance as the program itself has drops substantially in the eyes of anybody that has a clue does a lot to the human psyche.

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You people put up with it. Don't play in the league and fatten his pockets and ego

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How ironic that a team loses in the finals, cuts a kid and now King RG has the balls to keep a 12 year old out of the league. Calls in to all owners to keep someone out of EHF. We’ve stooped to a new low. It’s an absolute embarrassment that the King can run the league and collude with other owners to keep someone from playing.

I smell a lawsuit
# Colin Kapernick
I doubt there is any truth to this. If the player could help, the other teams would take him. We've seen kids get kicked off one team and land on another ('07 IHC). If you have details, spill 'em now. This thread will be down by 9:00 a.m. when the DBoard cop wakes up.

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Simple. Don’t fall for it. With the E9 moving to formal alliance with the AYHL the EHF/USPHL or whatever it is called now is dead

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There’s plenty of truth to this story. Owners are telling coaches not to touch him with a ten foot pole. Someone has a personal issue with a parent and you hold it against the kid. What time of man is that. He needs to take a look in the mirror and ask himself what am I doing. Ego maniac!!!!

The problem with this is this could now be your kid. If owners are willing to do this what’s to say they won’t do it again.

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There’s plenty of truth to this story. Owners are telling coaches not to touch him with a ten foot pole. Someone has a personal issue with a parent and you hold it against the kid. What time of man is that. He needs to take a look in the mirror and ask himself what am I doing. Ego maniac!!!!

The problem with this is this could now be your kid. If owners are willing to do this what’s to say they won’t do it again.
Fake News........go stock up on tissues and play VHL

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You must be an RG disciple. One of those who was hand picked to play for him. You bow down and kiss his feet. Yes RG I’ll do whatever your heart desires, just please let my kid play for you.

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Must be a very serious personal issue if the commish of the league is keeping a kid from playing. Makes no sense otherwise.

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Yeah he was insulted and now he’s gonna use his super powers and take it out on a kid. Hey RG WAAAAAAAHHH, were your feelings hurt

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OP - you clearly have an ax to grind. RG would not do anything to harm a kid without a very good reason. Zip it or spill it.

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Obviously dont have any info but a lesson to parents out there - hockey world is small and like it or not your kid/parents are a package deal.

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League rules, you can’t take 2 players from one team. This team is trying to take 2 kids from the 07 IHC. Plus I’ve heard horror stories on playing time demands from one of them

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I know things
League rules, you can’t take 2 players from one team. This team is trying to take 2 kids from the 07 IHC. Plus I’ve heard horror stories on playing time demands from one of them
JF took virtually his entire team from 07 PHC South to Jr Mounties but not EHF - BHL?

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This is a developing story but here’s what we know;

Confirmed:
- A player has been banned from playing in FED at ‘07 level. Teams are trying to sign him but not being allowed to by league. There have been calls between league office and multiple interested teams. Not allowed to roster player.
- “Doubtful” and “I Know Things” clearly don’t know what’s happening

Not Confirmed:
- Why a player can play in finals Sunday and then not sign with another team on Monday. That still needs to be figured out.

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Fake news - the kid in question was cut. He wanted to play for the SSK 07E. He was no longer an IHC 07E because he was not offered a contract. There is no rule since he was a "free agent". The other kid (goalie) was offered a contract and decided to play for SSK. I have personal knowledge of this and the TOP POST IS ALL TRUE. I have no interest in bashing anyone, but it is a sad day in youth hockey when the commissioner of a league black balls a talented & nice kid from the league just because he doesn't like the parents. The other owners who cowed to RG should be ashamed of themselves. The parents pay the freight and expect a level playing field. This guy can dictate team rosters. SAD!!!! BTW - HOW IS AN OWNER A COMMISSIONER? I know the story is true.

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Fake news - the kid in question was cut. He wanted to play for the SSK 07E. He was no longer an IHC 07E because he was not offered a contract. There is no rule since he was a "free agent". The other kid (goalie) was offered a contract and decided to play for SSK. I have personal knowledge of this and the TOP POST IS ALL TRUE. I have no interest in bashing anyone, but it is a sad day in youth hockey when the commissioner of a league black balls a talented & nice kid from the league just because he doesn't like the parents. The other owners who cowed to RG should be ashamed of themselves. The parents pay the freight and expect a level playing field. This guy can dictate team rosters. SAD!!!! BTW - HOW IS AN OWNER A COMMISSIONER? I know the story is true.
If he was cut how can they forbid him to go to any team? Because RG says so? This is crazy - why is he in charge... So sad

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You're all crazy. He will be adding teams and leagues long after your kid is playing hockey.

Look in the mirror, and ask yourself, who is the dumb one?

****, he'll probably be running the beer league your kid will be in. Money to be made there, too!

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You're all crazy. He will be adding teams and leagues long after your kid is playing hockey.

Look in the mirror, and ask yourself, who is the dumb one?

****, he'll probably be running the beer league your kid will be in. Money to be made there, too!
Yes he will. All the crappy leagues he will gobble up. The real leagues (i.e. AYHL, HPHL, etc.) want nothing to do with him. They all know what RG is about and don't want to be associated with him and his ego.

You know it's kinda funny that you all talk about how crappy leagues like the VHL, PHL, etc. are. With RG buying all these other crappy leagues, the EHF and USPHL are just getting worse. Soon they will be on the level with VHL and PHL. This will be especially true if BJE and MFR decide to leave the EHF. They are the real premier organizations that carry the EHF (it's not the Islanders). If BJE and MFR leave, the league quality collapses greatly.

Kinda gets back to the saying we have used in other threads. Who cares how many crappy teams and league you own. It's like being the tallest midget in the room.

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How ironic that a team loses in the finals, cuts a kid and now King RG has the balls to keep a 12 year old out of the league. Calls in to all owners to keep someone out of EHF. We’ve stooped to a new low. It’s an absolute embarrassment that the King can run the league and collude with other owners to keep someone from playing.

I smell a lawsuit
# Colin Kapernick
Or maybe the kid is not as good as his parents think he is (part of the friend and family plan) now that its a Q year bring in actual players...

Or the parents are bunch of clowns that other orgs get to listen to during games and they don't want the headache either...

Or...so many reasons that can be added

but what you do and how you act gets around

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Not the first time RG has caused conflict when the 07ihc are in trouble and he used his ownership of the team and league to push his dictatorship. The guy is a dictator and a little man who can’t take someone telling him off for being such. To put it on a 12 year old that you where cutting from your team not to have a chance to play on other EHF teams is bull****. Other teams coaches want the kid and the owners are being told not to take him. So now the owners won’t even stand up to RG??? A bunch of cowards these other owners are for not standing up to RG. When’s the next EHF/USPHL board meeting??? I hope the family files a lawsuit. What rules where broken to ban a kid from the league?? We all won’t know RG had the rules taken off the website. Only a Dictator does that!!!

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This makes no sense. If a kid walks out on a signed contract, fine. But how can he block a kid who was cut? What is the kid supposed to do -- especially so late in the game when most rosters are full? Is the move intended to force him to play Tier 1 for the organization? And why would other owners entertain turning away a decent player just to appease RG?

If it's about the Q, there are other options, non-Fed options, like the Spartans. But this shouldn't be happening regardless.

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This has nothing to do with the Q. It has to do with what’s right and wrong. And what RG and the owners of this league are doing is embarrassing.

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This has nothing to do with the Q. It has to do with what’s right and wrong. And what RG and the owners of this league are doing is embarrassing.
both parties have not presented facts yet so who is right and who is wrong...

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The facts are simple. A kid was denied the right to play for 2 different organizations, that’s fact!!! RG told owners of 2 teams that he would not release him even though he was cut, but why do you need a release if your cut. Owners of other teams should say to RG your wrong on this one and let the kid play.

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The facts are simple. A kid was denied the right to play for 2 different organizations, that’s fact!!! RG told owners of 2 teams that he would not release him even though he was cut, but why do you need a release if your cut. Owners of other teams should say to RG your wrong on this one and let the kid play.
If he doesnt have a contract for this year then he doesnt need a release anyways. He is a free agent.

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The facts are simple. A kid was denied the right to play for 2 different organizations, that’s fact!!! RG told owners of 2 teams that he would not release him even though he was cut, but why do you need a release if your cut. Owners of other teams should say to RG your wrong on this one and let the kid play.
But is he denied because he singed a contract and is trying to get out of it or are his parents in good financial standing wrt paying the tuition... those are FACTS!!! we don't know about. BTW the kid can go play E9 and RG can't stop you then or is E9 beneath them and their EGO...FACT!!!

unless you are the parent of the kid don't believe either side as they each have their own agenda, yet another FACT!!

3 side to every story as they say

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Hey meathead theirs only 2 sides to every story.
FACT!!!!!

Get your facts straight

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Get your spelling straight

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You must be one of RG’s little puppets

Waaaaaaaaahhhhh

Your little feeling hurt

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The spelling is right. The grammar is wrong. Fact.

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Hey meathead theirs only 2 sides to every story.
FACT!!!!!

Get your facts straight
Nope. 3 sides because both sides will change the narrative to accommodate what they are trying to accomplish. hence why most people say the truth is in the middle (AKA the 3RD SIDE!!!)

I'm just a FACT producing machine today..

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anybody call turtle boy yet..he will get to the bottom of this... he loves hockey stories coming out of Andover :cop:

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You must go to Merrimack College #IHC

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Hey meathead theirs only 2 sides to every story.
FACT!!!!!

Get your facts straight
Nope. 3 sides because both sides will change the narrative to accommodate what they are trying to accomplish. hence why most people say the truth is in the middle (AKA the 3RD SIDE!!!)

I\\\'m just a FACT producing machine today..

The saying goes theirs three sides to every story: my side,your side,and the truth.

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Exhibit 1,432,716 on why we don't develop players nationally here in Mass recently.

It's a cesspool of garbage. Owners, Leagues, mass hockey, parents. Nobody has the players best developmental interests in mind.

Having gone through the cycle a few years back, and now my kid is in high school, it's clear as day now. None of this BS matters in the end. Zero

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Dude - you are out of your mind. The parents of the child, the coaches and friends of the parents all know the situation. RG blackballed their kid. You say play for the E9 - who the hell are you to say- "hey just accept that some old oligarch can screw your kid out of roster spots he has earned". He cut the kid - fine, has every right to, he owns the organization. He has no right to bully owners into not taking him. The kid is one of the best 20 players in the EHF and is a nice kid in and out of the locker room. Sad!

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Is this even legal? We are talking about Youth Sports! The parents could have a legal case!

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Anon
Is this even legal? We are talking about Youth Sports! The parents could have a legal case!
It's his league. He can do whatever he wants. If he says at the beginning of the year that all Islander teams will automatically play in the finals for the EHF, he can do so. He can take any kid from any team he wants. He can tell parents that their kid can't play in the EHF if he wants. It's his league

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Everyone is in good standing financially because Uncle RG pays the tuitions. Unless he wants his money back.

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It still amazes me that people refuse to accept the shady sh*t like this that goes on in youth hockey. 5 years in youth hockey and I’ve seen it all. Nothing would surprise me anymore. And If you think this is the first time something like this has happened, you must be pretty new to youth hockey at this level😂

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Parents...

If you want this type of crap to stop...STOP WRITING CHECKS TO EHF TEAMS !!!

...but you can't...it's like a drug for you...and that's what they count on...

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The kids parents must be real a holes! Just saying....

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Anon
The kids parents must be real a holes! Just saying....
must be, if if the kid is indeed top 20 in EHF and is as good on and off the ice as people say...

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Or maybe kid/parents wanted a change as the so called super team is really not super and kids not being developed. For that, you black list the kid. Same thing happened at younger level as well. Left and was verbally acosted.

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It’s not the parents it’s the commissioner King RG. Doesn’t mind taking kids away from other organizations to benefit his team but God forbid someone from his team wants to go somewhere. His answer is to blackball an 11 year old kid. What a piece of dog S***.

Like they say what goes around comes around, and one day the roles will be reversed

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It’s not the parents it’s the commissioner King RG. Doesn’t mind taking kids away from other organizations to benefit his team but God forbid someone from his team wants to go somewhere. His answer is to blackball an 11 year old kid. What a piece of dog S***.

Like they say what goes around comes around, and one day the roles will be reversed
Parents need to lower their expectations go play for one of those E9 teams or maybe in the black

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Why should they lower their expectations when the kid deserves to be in EHF elite. I wouldn’t want to play in that garbage league E9. Anyone in that league that is any good moves to EHF. Don’t think people aspire to play E9. Comes back to RG being a tool bag

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I bet you I can guess the parents-family involved..

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I bet you can to because your another one of RG’s puppeteer. Let me guess you play for the IHC, the biggest sham team in the league.

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I bet you can to because your another one of RG’s puppeteer. Let me guess you play for the IHC, the biggest sham team in the league.
you think this only happens with IHC or EHF only you are mistaken...also nothing wrong with E9 get your ego in check,

but then again folks wanted to play for that 07E teams to brag about it and now you get what you asked for..

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Don’t try to make yourself feel good cuz your kid couldn’t make an EHF tier 1 team. Of course the E9 is garbage. You have one decent team and the rest are stubs.

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Don’t try to make yourself feel good cuz your kid couldn’t make an EHF tier 1 team. Of course the E9 is garbage. You have one decent team and the rest are stubs.
bought into the cool-aid have you..

4 kids two play EHF Elite, 2 played E9 one is plying D1 on a scholarship, other is Junior HS D1 commit, we go with coaches with knowledge that teach the game regardless of league so all the best to you and the horse blinders you have on. It's all about the coaching oldests two kids played on teams that struggled to be .500 but winning is not what matters.

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Your full of crap, don’t lie to yourself. You don’t go with coaching, you go with what coach will take you. Like it’s your decision to make unless your RG then you can make that decision cuz he’s a the king. #NOT

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Why should they lower their expectations when the kid deserves to be in EHF elite. I wouldn’t want to play in that garbage league E9. Anyone in that league that is any good moves to EHF. Don’t think people aspire to play E9. Comes back to RG being a tool bag
E9 is not garbage

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Why should they lower their expectations when the kid deserves to be in EHF elite. I wouldn’t want to play in that garbage league E9. Anyone in that league that is any good moves to EHF. Don’t think people aspire to play E9. Comes back to RG being a tool bag
E9 is not garbage
Gilly will make RG look like garbage when all is said and done. RG fighting a losing battle against the biggest youth hockey league in the country. FACT! :joy:

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Biggest hockey league in the country..vhl
Probably most profitable too
Gilly old boy

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Everyone ******** about rg..please it's just Russian collusion.. been around longer than the game of hockey or the United States

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Why should they lower their expectations when the kid deserves to be in EHF elite. I wouldn’t want to play in that garbage league E9. Anyone in that league that is any good moves to EHF. Don’t think people aspire to play E9. Comes back to RG being a tool bag
E9 is not garbage
Sounds like to me the EHF is garbage with all the crap that goes on there with RG...USPHL will follow...

Couldn't be happier not in the EHF...

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This should not devolve into an E9 v. EHF quality of hockey argument. It has nothing to do with that. The story on what is happening to this family is out there now. People are talking about it. It's a black mark on youth hockey regardless of the league. RG is abusing his power and blackballing a 12 year old kid. The kid is a good kid and has done nothing wrong. Even the parents on the Islanders don't know why RG is blackballing a kid that he cut. They think he is out of line.

Let's hear the other side. Why is RG trying to keep this kid out of the league? Why are the owners afraid to take the kid? I'm sure Merrimack College would be thrilled to hear that they are associated with a guy like this. Let's pray he never becomes director of admissions. This all goes away if RG acts like an adult and a business leader, sets aside his personal vendetta, and let's the kid play. Suspend the parents if they did something to justify a suspension. So let's hear the justification for blackballing this kid.

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Yes, no doubt this kid should be allowed to play. Unless there's another side to this story, which seems like it could only be that their bill isn't paid. Sounds like that is not the case, however. I feel awful for this kid. Bad enough to get cut, but to get cut and then blocked from moving on? What's the end game? Is it to force him to play Tier 1 IHC?

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Duh. It’s to teach them a lesson.

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This should not devolve into an E9 v. EHF quality of hockey argument. It has nothing to do with that. The story on what is happening to this family is out there now. People are talking about it. It's a black mark on youth hockey regardless of the league. RG is abusing his power and blackballing a 12 year old kid. The kid is a good kid and has done nothing wrong. Even the parents on the Islanders don't know why RG is blackballing a kid that he cut. They think he is out of line.

Let's hear the other side. Why is RG trying to keep this kid out of the league? Why are the owners afraid to take the kid? I'm sure Merrimack College would be thrilled to hear that they are associated with a guy like this. Let's pray he never becomes director of admissions. This all goes away if RG acts like an adult and a business leader, sets aside his personal vendetta, and let's the kid play. Suspend the parents if they did something to justify a suspension. So let's hear the justification for blackballing this kid.
Couple of points:
1. Agreed. This is not an E9 v. EHF discussion. EHF defenders will want to take it there though to dodge the topic.

2. The parents and RG know the truth.
a. If the parents pulled the kid and the rules state that they cannot move to another team without permission, then they are screwed. It may have been a "you can't fire me, I quit" situation which would suck for the kid as RG would then not do him any favors.
b. If the kid was cut and RG is preventing the kid from jumping on another EHF elite team because of a personal issue, then they should go talk to a lawyer or go to the news for some publicity. Hell, if money is an issue, start a Go Fund Me attorney fee page. RG has ****** in enough cereal bowls to make a few enemies over the years and finding contributors shouldn't be a problem.

3. Caveat emptor.
a. Parents should know: when its good, its good at IHC. Just ask plenty of the IHC defenders out there. But when its bad...watch out.
b. Other team owners know or should have known what they were allowing. I wasn't privy to those original backroom discussions but as the saying goes "you made your bed"...
c. Merrimack is already aware about who they are associated. Money buys a lot of power at the institution. Ask Coach Dennehy. https://www.collegehockeynews.com/news/2018/03/13_Commentary-Merrimack-Stumbles.php

My question is this: why is there so much controversy around this man?

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Get's better. The rules that were taken down off the website at some point in the middle of last year clearly stated that a team with a **** winning percentage (aka ssk's) can take two players off another elite team if they had a high winning percentage (aka isles). But apparently there is a back room, handshake, BS deal in place (think like Trading Places) where Team2 would never ever take more than 1 elite kid from Team1 and vice versa. The league rules are in black and white...and are being usurped by RG and for whatever reason we will never know why. ..and the parents should and could get their hands on those and demand answers.
Above all fact. RUMOR is RG owns a part of Team 2.....threw some $$ in a few years ago. hmmmmm.

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Yup. Play time demands coming back to haunt!

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If this is true story parents just go to channel 5 news tell there story.

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How many times do you hear it?
It goes on all day long
Everyone knows everything
And no one's ever wrong...