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Anon

Jun 7, 2019 - 4:15PM

Re: Brick Tournament - Hmmmmm

Anon

Pretty funny the crickets from all the people that say being good at 10 isnt any indication of future success....

You're talking the Top 10 talent at 10. How about the other 500 kids whose families spent big coin to be "elite?"

been there and done that

Jun 7, 2019 - 4:47PM

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A couple of things. First if your kid is going to the Brick have fun and enjoy it as youth hockey goes by way to fast. Before you know it you are looking at U-14. I have been through it, a few of the kids will be the best kids at the brick and will still be the best kids in their age group at U-14. However there have been a lot of kids that were the best during the Brick years and have been pasted by many other in their age group. Others are still very good players but not as dominate as Brick years as other have caught up. Does not make them bad kids or failures it is just the way it goes in hockey development.

After the Brick there is the Q, then STX 68 and then it's all over but the crying:(

My advice is just enjoy your kids and the places youth hockey takes you because its over in the blink of the eye!

One last thing. That 2001 group is like no other. A bunch of those kids were on the MMF and were like 100-0 over 2 or 3 years. A few are in the NTDP camp and a bunch are going D-1. This group is the exception not he norm. Hey, but good for them, the more MA hockey players in D-1 and beyond the better. There has never been another group like the 01's.

Sincerely,

Been there and done that

Anom

Jun 8, 2019 - 10:11AM

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Great post (for a change) on the board. Thank you

anon

Jun 8, 2019 - 10:06AM

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Anon

Its about that time for the Brick conversations on the Dboard....this is the scoring leaders from the 01 class in the 2011 Brick...who will be draft eligible this month:

RK PLAYER TEAM Pos. GP G A PTS PIM PP PPA SH SHA GWG
1 Caufield, Cole CHI F 6 9 9 18 4 0 5 1 1 1
2 Zegras, Trevor CON F 6 8 5 13 2 1 1 0 0 0
Turcotte, Alex CHI F 6 6 7 13 6 4 0 0 0 0
Stastney, Pierce CHI F 6 4 9 13 0 1 2 1 0 0
5 Lovett, Conor BJB F 6 9 3 12 2 1 0 0 0 1
6 Hughes, Jack TOB F 6 4 7 11 6 0 2 0 0 0
7 Jutting, Jackson MIN F 6 4 6 10 2 3 2 0 0 1
8 Fensore, Dom CON D 6 4 5 9 4 1 1 0 0 1
9 Farinacci, John CON F 6 4 4 8 0 0 0 0 0 1
Phillips, Ethan ATL F 6 2 6 8 2 2 2 0 1 0

At least 7 of them will be drafted in the NHL draft this June. More than 5 will be 1st round picks.

Wishing you had that $10K back dontcha? Don't worry, a couple more of these posts and you'll have yourself convinced

Anon

Jun 25, 2019 - 7:55PM

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Congratulations to all the Brick Hockey alumni selected in the 2019 NHL Draft!

Photo of Jack Hughes celebrating a goal with his Toronto Bulldogs teammates at the 2011 Brick Invitational

1. Jack Hughes, New Jersey Devils
3. Kirby Dach, Chicago Blackhawks
5. Alex Turcotte, Los Angeles Kings
9. Trevor Zegras, Anaheim Ducks
12. Matthew Boldy, Minnesota Wild
13. Spencer Knight, Florida Panthers
14. Cam York, Philadelphia Flyers
15. Cole Caufield, Montreal Canadiens
16. Alex Newhook, Colorado Avalanche
17. Peyton Krebs, Vegas Golden Knights
21. Samuel Poulin, Pittsburgh Penguins
24. Phillip Tomasino, Nashville Predators
26. Jakob Pelletier, Calgary Flames
31. Ryan Johnson, Buffalo Sabres
41. Kaedan Korczak, Vegas Golden Knights
44. Jamieson Rees, Carolina Hurricanes
49. Matthew Robertson, New York Rangers
54. Robert Mastrosimone, Detroit Red Wings
74. Nathan Legare, Pittsburgh Penguins
75. Adam Beckman, Minnesota Wild
80. Graeme Clark, New Jersey Devils
81. Cole Schwindt, Florida Panthers
82. Michael Vukojevic, New Jersey Devils
90. Domenick Fensore, Carolina Hurricanes
92. Quinn Olson, Boston Bruins
97. Ethan Phillips, Detroit Red Wings
101. Henry Thrun, Anaheim Ducks
134. Harrison Blaisdell, Winnipeg Jets
140. Sasha Mutala, Colorado Avalanche
150. Josh Nodler, Calgary Flames
158. Patrick Moynihan, New Jersey Devils
191. Carter Gylander, Detroit Red Wings
199. Matthew Wedman, Florida Panthers
214. Dustin Wolf, Calgary Flames
216. Massimo Rizzo, Carolina Hurricanes

Anon

Jun 26, 2019 - 9:47AM

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Anon

You're a moron. I love that you are so passionate about this topic to list the names and cross-reference past brick rosters. What a loser.

Congrats to all the non-brick draftees too. Whats your point?

A couple of questions to challenge your attempted point:
- How many years of brick tournaments are represented in your list? Two? Three? Four?
- How many other kids played in the tournament those years?

Your stats are skewed. I can show you stats that more non-brick attendees were drafted this year and I don't need to create a list.

Useless. I can guarantee that your kid is a EHFer too. Your kind of stupidity keeps the RGs of the world rich. Good luck.

Anon

Jun 26, 2019 - 9:56AM

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Anon

Donkey nuts...thats just the list from the 2011 Brick Tournament...one single year of kids that played in the 2011 Brick. Hows that taste?

35 kids out of 210 = 17% of kids playing in the Brick were drafted in the NHL from the 2011 Brick. Thats insane like it or not. Show me any other tournament that gets 2%.

Anon

Jun 26, 2019 - 10:10AM

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Anon

It's a cut and paste, idiot.

And, it would be predominantly one Brick year, given that the draft was for 2001s and late 2000s. But, since we know that late birth year kids don't tend to rise as quickly to the "elite" level as kids, it's likely 95% + are from a single Brick year.

While of course it's not the majority of kids drafted or of kids that played in the Brick, it's still an impressive list.

anon

Jun 26, 2019 - 11:05AM

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Anon

You\'re a moron. I love that you are so passionate about this topic to list the names and cross-reference past brick rosters. What a loser.

Congrats to all the non-brick draftees too. Whats your point?

A couple of questions to challenge your attempted point:
- How many years of brick tournaments are represented in your list? Two? Three? Four?
- How many other kids played in the tournament those years?

Your stats are skewed. I can show you stats that more non-brick attendees were drafted this year and I don\'t need to create a list.

Useless. I can guarantee that your kid is a EHFer too. Your kind of stupidity keeps the RGs of the world rich. Good luck.

Impressive statistics no doubt. Nobody ever questioned the quality of the tournament. However, the idea that "if my kid goes to the Brick, he is more likely to be drafted", which is being suggested by the poster and certainly believed by many parents, is a logical fallacy. You do not need to go to the Brick to develop into an NHL-caliber player.

Anon

Jun 26, 2019 - 11:29AM

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anon

Anon

You\\\'re a moron. I love that you are so passionate about this topic to list the names and cross-reference past brick rosters. What a loser.

Congrats to all the non-brick draftees too. Whats your point?

A couple of questions to challenge your attempted point:
- How many years of brick tournaments are represented in your list? Two? Three? Four?
- How many other kids played in the tournament those years?

Your stats are skewed. I can show you stats that more non-brick attendees were drafted this year and I don\\\'t need to create a list.

Useless. I can guarantee that your kid is a EHFer too. Your kind of stupidity keeps the RGs of the world rich. Good luck.

It\'s a cut and paste, idiot.

And, it would be predominantly one Brick year, given that the draft was for 2001s and late 2000s. But, since we know that late birth year kids don\'t tend to rise as quickly to the \"elite\" level as kids, it\'s likely 95% + are from a single Brick year.

While of course it\'s not the majority of kids drafted or of kids that played in the Brick, it\'s still an impressive list.

Actually its not a logical fallacy. Statistically speaking if your kid plays in the Brick then he has say a 15% chance of drafted compared to a .0001% change he does if he doesnt play in the tournament. The real takeaway is the stud top 1% kids at 10 are still the top 1% at draft time.

Anon

Jun 26, 2019 - 12:46PM

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Anon

anon

Anon

It\\\'s a cut and paste, idiot.

And, it would be predominantly one Brick year, given that the draft was for 2001s and late 2000s. But, since we know that late birth year kids don\\\'t tend to rise as quickly to the \\\"elite\\\" level as kids, it\\\'s likely 95% + are from a single Brick year.

While of course it\\\'s not the majority of kids drafted or of kids that played in the Brick, it\\\'s still an impressive list.

Impressive statistics no doubt. Nobody ever questioned the quality of the tournament. However, the idea that \"if my kid goes to the Brick, he is more likely to be drafted\", which is being suggested by the poster and certainly believed by many parents, is a logical fallacy. You do not need to go to the Brick to develop into an NHL-caliber player.

That's not how statistics work. While a higher percentage of Brick participants are drafted, the likelihood of being drafted purely on the basis of Brick participation is no greater. An "elite" player that chooses to play has no better odds than an "elite" player that chooses NOT to. The're still "elite."

For example, even without statistics I think we'd all intuitively agree that the risk of heart disease among qualified runners in the Boston Marathon is lower than the risk among recreational runners in general, and certainly the general public. But, it is not running the Boston Marathon itself that reduces the risk. The training, dedication and lifestyle choice it takes to qualify is the contributing factor.

The Brick does not make you a more draftable player. It is simply an event where more draftable players collect.

anon

Jun 26, 2019 - 3:33PM

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Anon

anon

Anon

It\\\\\\'s a cut and paste, idiot.

And, it would be predominantly one Brick year, given that the draft was for 2001s and late 2000s. But, since we know that late birth year kids don\\\\\\'t tend to rise as quickly to the \\\\\\"elite\\\\\\" level as kids, it\\\\\\'s likely 95% + are from a single Brick year.

While of course it\\\\\\'s not the majority of kids drafted or of kids that played in the Brick, it\\\\\\'s still an impressive list.

Impressive statistics no doubt. Nobody ever questioned the quality of the tournament. However, the idea that \\"if my kid goes to the Brick, he is more likely to be drafted\\", which is being suggested by the poster and certainly believed by many parents, is a logical fallacy. You do not need to go to the Brick to develop into an NHL-caliber player.

Thank you. Saved me the effort of having to explain this. Well done.

Anon

Jun 26, 2019 - 3:46PM

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anon

Anon

anon

Anon

It\\\\\\\\\\\\\'s a cut and paste, idiot.

And, it would be predominantly one Brick year, given that the draft was for 2001s and late 2000s. But, since we know that late birth year kids don\\\\\\\\\\\\\'t tend to rise as quickly to the \\\\\\\\\\\\\"elite\\\\\\\\\\\\\" level as kids, it\\\\\\\\\\\\\'s likely 95% + are from a single Brick year.

While of course it\\\\\\\\\\\\\'s not the majority of kids drafted or of kids that played in the Brick, it\\\\\\\\\\\\\'s still an impressive list.

Impressive statistics no doubt. Nobody ever questioned the quality of the tournament. However, the idea that \\\\\"if my kid goes to the Brick, he is more likely to be drafted\\\\\", which is being suggested by the poster and certainly believed by many parents, is a logical fallacy. You do not need to go to the Brick to develop into an NHL-caliber player.

That\'s not how statistics work. While a higher percentage of Brick participants are drafted, the likelihood of being drafted purely on the basis of Brick participation is no greater. An \"elite\" player that chooses to play has no better odds than an \"elite\" player that chooses NOT to. The\'re still \"elite.\"

For example, even without statistics I think we\'d all intuitively agree that the risk of heart disease among qualified runners in the Boston Marathon is lower than the risk among recreational runners in general, and certainly the general public. But, it is not running the Boston Marathon itself that reduces the risk. The training, dedication and lifestyle choice it takes to qualify is the contributing factor.

The Brick does not make you a more draftable player. It is simply an event where more draftable players collect.

Thank you. Saved me the effort of having to explain this. Well done.

Yes thank you for explaining something that was completely obvious. I highly doubt anyone believes that playing in the Brick is the cause of someone's hockey success and if they do they deserve to get their pockets raided.

anon

Jun 27, 2019 - 6:03AM

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It's sad that you took the time to cut & paste !

anon

Jun 28, 2019 - 9:48AM

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So people with kids 8, 9, 10 years old actually look at things like to brick and say to themselves "If my kid can do this he has a better chance of making the NHL"? Most will be 20 year old freshman at D3 if they still play hockey at that point. Just enjoy it, don't brag and teach your kid not to brag because you're both constantly getting **** on if you do.

Anon

Jun 28, 2019 - 10:34AM

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Why not let a 9 or 10 year old chase his dream? It most likely won't play out but where is the downside? Let them have their moment in the sun (well, cold poorly lit rink anyway) and let the parents and grandparents brag about it. This is youth sports in America and when they mature and grow they will understand where they are going but until them let them dream. Stop being *******s and let the kids play the game.

No my kids are not at the brick, the Q, or anywhere else outside of our region. We like it here and if they happen to get the invite someday we will go.

just saying

Jun 29, 2019 - 9:08AM

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"Why not let a 9 or 10 year old chase his dream? It most likely won't play out but where is the downside?"

dad, can i have the car keys, my dream is to drive.

anon

Jul 2, 2019 - 12:04PM

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Anon

But is it letting the kid dream or playing out the dad's dream?

Anon

Jul 2, 2019 - 12:56PM

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If a kid loves baseball his dream is playing in the Little League World Series. If a kid loves hockey his dream is playing in the Brick.

anon

Jul 2, 2019 - 4:05PM

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Anon

If a kid loves baseball his dream is playing in the Little League World Series. If a kid loves hockey his dream is playing in the Brick.

There's a big difference between the drive of a 10 year old and that of a 12 year old. At 10, it's still mostly driven by the parent. At 12 it starts to be more driven by the kid.

And comparing the Brick to the LLWS is questionable anyway. Not in the same league. The LLWS gets you more exposure than D1 college hockey. ESPN will only touch Frozen Four games, and even then some end up on ESPN3 (online). LLWS regional games are on ESPN2, World Series games on ESPN. In America, baseball is still king and making the LLWS is much more prestigious than either the Brick or the Q.

Anon

Jun 26, 2019 - 11:25AM

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Anon

What are you still sour your kid wasn't good enough for the Brick a few years back? Get over it pheasant. Your kid will get drafted early in beer league selections.

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