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Re: MA Unlikely to Play this Fall

Anon
I have been reading the posts the past few days and I thought I would share some first hand information.

I work for a large medical insurance company based in MA. My role is on the Medical Affairs team, I am an MD and provide support to our network providers on covered or expected medical services. I was on a call with the Commonwealth Department of Health and Human Services Monday afternoon. The call was led by Marylou Sudders and included Lt Gov Polito, Gov Baker did not attend the call. The call covered multiple topics and briefly included sports. The majority of the time spent talking about sports focused on a return to HS sports in the fall with some brief comments on youth sports. I will spare you the boring details but it does not seem likely Gov Baker or his team will be approving "high risk" sports for play in the fall. The recommendation that will be going out to schools will be to move fall high risk sports to the spring to preserve them and not impact kids losing a season. If a sport like soccer is moved to the spring I would not feel confident in hockey being approved. Hockey was not mentioned by name in the call, the only three sports called out by name were football, boys lacrosse and soccer. The underlying concern was creating exposure or an infection rate in kids that would impact schools being able to remain open in the fall.

I would encourage everyone to set realistic expectations for your kids this season. The kids will play hockey but I would expect a non-traditional season (Jan-May, etc) that will move into the spring. We see every medical claim that is presented for our members, COVID is very serious and do not let yourself believe that kids are immune to the impact of this virus.
Meh, you had me until you said kids are not immune to the impact of the virus. The "data" completely disagrees with you. 0-19 is only 5% of total MA infections. 0-19 is 0.11% of hospitalizations, and 0-19 have 0 deaths. But you're an MD and your views will be ultra conservative, which is fine it's your job to be, but that is why their is a board to take into account all the experts opinions. We'll know by 1st week of August, as that's when football practices start. Also Department of Health & Human Services are not making the decisions on youth or HS sports, the Dept of Education and the Dept of Environmental Affairs are.

Re: MA Unlikely to Play this Fall

It sounds like he said the DHHS will be "recommending" not making the decision.

Re: MA Unlikely to Play this Fall

anon
Anon
I have been reading the posts the past few days and I thought I would share some first hand information.

I work for a large medical insurance company based in MA. My role is on the Medical Affairs team, I am an MD and provide support to our network providers on covered or expected medical services. I was on a call with the Commonwealth Department of Health and Human Services Monday afternoon. The call was led by Marylou Sudders and included Lt Gov Polito, Gov Baker did not attend the call. The call covered multiple topics and briefly included sports. The majority of the time spent talking about sports focused on a return to HS sports in the fall with some brief comments on youth sports. I will spare you the boring details but it does not seem likely Gov Baker or his team will be approving \"high risk\" sports for play in the fall. The recommendation that will be going out to schools will be to move fall high risk sports to the spring to preserve them and not impact kids losing a season. If a sport like soccer is moved to the spring I would not feel confident in hockey being approved. Hockey was not mentioned by name in the call, the only three sports called out by name were football, boys lacrosse and soccer. The underlying concern was creating exposure or an infection rate in kids that would impact schools being able to remain open in the fall.

I would encourage everyone to set realistic expectations for your kids this season. The kids will play hockey but I would expect a non-traditional season (Jan-May, etc) that will move into the spring. We see every medical claim that is presented for our members, COVID is very serious and do not let yourself believe that kids are immune to the impact of this virus.
Meh, you had me until you said kids are not immune to the impact of the virus. The "data" completely disagrees with you. 0-19 is only 5% of total MA infections. 0-19 is 0.11% of hospitalizations, and 0-19 have 0 deaths. But you're an MD and your views will be ultra conservative, which is fine it's your job to be, but that is why their is a board to take into account all the experts opinions. We'll know by 1st week of August, as that's when football practices start. Also Department of Health & Human Services are not making the decisions on youth or HS sports, the Dept of Education and the Dept of Environmental Affairs are.
The complete stupidity of these people in charge is insane. Kids 0-19 have basically nothing to worry about. They have a better chance of getting eaten by a bear for Christ sakes. Open the rinks up and let them play you bunch of sheep. Make sure you are wearing your mask in your car as well dip ****s

Re: MA Unlikely to Play this Fall

Anon
anon
Anon
I have been reading the posts the past few days and I thought I would share some first hand information.

I work for a large medical insurance company based in MA. My role is on the Medical Affairs team, I am an MD and provide support to our network providers on covered or expected medical services. I was on a call with the Commonwealth Department of Health and Human Services Monday afternoon. The call was led by Marylou Sudders and included Lt Gov Polito, Gov Baker did not attend the call. The call covered multiple topics and briefly included sports. The majority of the time spent talking about sports focused on a return to HS sports in the fall with some brief comments on youth sports. I will spare you the boring details but it does not seem likely Gov Baker or his team will be approving \\\"high risk\\\" sports for play in the fall. The recommendation that will be going out to schools will be to move fall high risk sports to the spring to preserve them and not impact kids losing a season. If a sport like soccer is moved to the spring I would not feel confident in hockey being approved. Hockey was not mentioned by name in the call, the only three sports called out by name were football, boys lacrosse and soccer. The underlying concern was creating exposure or an infection rate in kids that would impact schools being able to remain open in the fall.

I would encourage everyone to set realistic expectations for your kids this season. The kids will play hockey but I would expect a non-traditional season (Jan-May, etc) that will move into the spring. We see every medical claim that is presented for our members, COVID is very serious and do not let yourself believe that kids are immune to the impact of this virus.
Meh, you had me until you said kids are not immune to the impact of the virus. The \"data\" completely disagrees with you. 0-19 is only 5% of total MA infections. 0-19 is 0.11% of hospitalizations, and 0-19 have 0 deaths. But you\'re an MD and your views will be ultra conservative, which is fine it\'s your job to be, but that is why their is a board to take into account all the experts opinions. We\'ll know by 1st week of August, as that\'s when football practices start. Also Department of Health & Human Services are not making the decisions on youth or HS sports, the Dept of Education and the Dept of Environmental Affairs are.
The complete stupidity of these people in charge is insane. Kids 0-19 have basically nothing to worry about. They have a better chance of getting eaten by a bear for Christ sakes. Open the rinks up and let them play you bunch of sheep. Make sure you are wearing your mask in your car as well dip ****s
30 deaths today, all age 70+, and 27 of those 30 in nursing homes. Those are still direct results of Baker's incompetence not ours.

Re: MA Unlikely to Play this Fall

Anon
I have been reading the posts the past few days and I thought I would share some first hand information.

I work for a large medical insurance company based in MA. My role is on the Medical Affairs team, I am an MD and provide support to our network providers on covered or expected medical services. I was on a call with the Commonwealth Department of Health and Human Services Monday afternoon. The call was led by Marylou Sudders and included Lt Gov Polito, Gov Baker did not attend the call. The call covered multiple topics and briefly included sports. The majority of the time spent talking about sports focused on a return to HS sports in the fall with some brief comments on youth sports. I will spare you the boring details but it does not seem likely Gov Baker or his team will be approving "high risk" sports for play in the fall. The recommendation that will be going out to schools will be to move fall high risk sports to the spring to preserve them and not impact kids losing a season. If a sport like soccer is moved to the spring I would not feel confident in hockey being approved. Hockey was not mentioned by name in the call, the only three sports called out by name were football, boys lacrosse and soccer. The underlying concern was creating exposure or an infection rate in kids that would impact schools being able to remain open in the fall.

I would encourage everyone to set realistic expectations for your kids this season. The kids will play hockey but I would expect a non-traditional season (Jan-May, etc) that will move into the spring. We see every medical claim that is presented for our members, COVID is very serious and do not let yourself believe that kids are immune to the impact of this virus.
Is there a chance you can tell me if my prostate is enlarged? I have no illness or symptoms, just want to be sure.

Re: MA Unlikely to Play this Fall

I would expect high school hockey to be pushed until January if it happens at all. Football will probably be pushed until the spring but it does bring up an interesting question as to what happens to all the players who play football and lacrosse? Highly unlikely kids will be playing two contact sports at the same time. The question then becomes what happens with non-school related leagues? Will they be given the okay to proceed? Will U16-U18 become full season if there's a chance the high school season goes bye-bye? Still a lot of questions to be answered.

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If you’re a 2
Sport athlete you can’t play both.. baker =loser

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Teams will just set up exhibition games in NH and CT and also go to tournaments and showcases until the regular league season can start again.

Especially in the Elite divisions people aren't just going to sit around and wait.

Would be ironic if all of a sudden TG, MFF and CJH have a geographic advantage in the EHF and travel less than the Boston teams, but in 2020 everything is upside-down so it feels like that could actually happen if things keep going in the direction they are going.

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makes a lot of sense, for all other states to be open, let rinks and small business lose money and players travel to RI and NH to play hockey, and state still cant prevent the "risk" as kids will still play and have contact and go to school.

DUMB by Baker

Re: MA Unlikely to Play this Fall

The real irony is that for kids in the 8 and older group, I’m not so sure that the virus is any riskier than the sport itself.

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Good point. Kids are at more risk of a gruesome injury while playing hockey, than being hospitalized by a virus. It all comes down to whether you want to live in a bubble or not.

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Hey buddy... GFY! Take that MD and shove it straight up your candy ass!!

Re: MA Unlikely to Play this Fall

This makes complete sense...until all the MA, RI teams start heading to NH for games and tournaments. Rink owners and programs owners will start screaming at the revenue loss including all retail loss because of No sales tax in NH. If Hockey continues North of the border with little health impact Baker looks like a mental midget. Most politicians care about 2 things...Money for themselves and their cronies...and getting re-elected.

Re: MA Unlikely to Play this Fall

Mass Hockey and USA dropped the ball. They should have been lobbying the governor with data. Casinos did.

Re: MA Unlikely to Play this Fall

AAA
Mass Hockey and USA dropped the ball. They should have been lobbying the governor with data. Casinos did.
All the way up until Monday afternoon they were being told games will be allowed. So was basketball and lax. Then the bomb was dropped, literally. So either this was a big secret lie used to screw over the FMC rinks and other rink owners, or someone on the board made a last minute pitch to stop games.

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Ivy League cancelled fall sports and soon D3 college will do the same. If you think Baker will allow youth hockey, football, soccer or other “high risk” sports to play in MA you’re crazy. It is time to get your kid playing baseball or golf bc that is all you will be able to play in MA this year.

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People are missing the financial component, how much revenue do casinos generate compared to youth hockey?

Re: MA Unlikely to Play this Fall

Bishop
This makes complete sense...until all the MA, RI teams start heading to NH for games and tournaments. Rink owners and programs owners will start screaming at the revenue loss including all retail loss because of No sales tax in NH. If Hockey continues North of the border with little health impact Baker looks like a mental midget. Most politicians care about 2 things...Money for themselves and their cronies...and getting re-elected.
So excited that my 08 Avalanche will be able to continue to develop and play games while the "softies" south of us can only get better at crossovers and c-cuts. Looks like we could make a run at the Q. Haha!! Just joking!! The Q isn't happening this year. Suck on that all you Fed parents

Re: MA Unlikely to Play this Fall

my neighbors kids just played in a AAU basketball tournament in CT and he said the gym was packed...multiple games going on. Some parents wearing masks others not. There's a lot more contact in hoops than hockey...how is this possible.

Re: MA Unlikely to Play this Fall

anon
my neighbors kids just played in a AAU basketball tournament in CT and he said the gym was packed...multiple games going on. Some parents wearing masks others not. There's a lot more contact in hoops than hockey...how is this possible.
This all fits with Baker's wait and see approach. He waits for another ne state to open up a particular business or function, then he sees if anything goes wrong. Then Mass opens up that business cautiously, lol. Roll out the red carpet another victory and mind-blowingly successful decision by the govenor. He'll even hold a press conference to pat himself on the back. You have to remember that the last actual decision the guy made on his own without waiting for the other state govenors to do it first was, approving an order allowing low rated nursing homes to take covid19 patients on a medicaid deal from hospitals for a profit. oops. I guess when you have that kind of decision making track record best to let others test the waters first.

Re: MA Unlikely to Play this Fall

anon
anon
my neighbors kids just played in a AAU basketball tournament in CT and he said the gym was packed...multiple games going on. Some parents wearing masks others not. There\'s a lot more contact in hoops than hockey...how is this possible.
This all fits with Baker's wait and see approach. He waits for another ne state to open up a particular business or function, then he sees if anything goes wrong. Then Mass opens up that business cautiously, lol. Roll out the red carpet another victory and mind-blowingly successful decision by the govenor. He'll even hold a press conference to pat himself on the back. You have to remember that the last actual decision the guy made on his own without waiting for the other state govenors to do it first was, approving an order allowing low rated nursing homes to take covid19 patients on a medicaid deal from hospitals for a profit. oops. I guess when you have that kind of decision making track record best to let others test the waters first.
Amazing Baker is able to walk or stand upright...given has lack of a spine.

Re: MA Unlikely to Play this Fall

I'm going to assume the MD is legit and it doesn't matter unless your player is only playing VHL or SSC. EHF-E9 will simply front load schedules for the first 1/4 to 1/2 of the season so all the MA/RI teams will be playing games on the road. NAHL combine moved to CT, HNIB trying to find ice in NH, etc., so it's already happening. The youth season will start on time but we're likely to get some interesting game times as open rinks will have added pressure to come up with ice time.

Too early to call what will happen to High School sports. I could certainly see high risk fall sports moving to spring in an effort to salvage a season but I can also envision no contact sports being played under this very conservative administration. If there is a delay to the start of the HS hockey season in Massachusetts, you can bet that owners will come up some a way to take advantage perhaps offer some type of scrimmage season from Thanksgiving to Christmas to fill the void.

Re: MA Unlikely to Play this Fall

anon
I'm going to assume the MD is legit and it doesn't matter unless your player is only playing VHL or SSC. EHF-E9 will simply front load schedules for the first 1/4 to 1/2 of the season so all the MA/RI teams will be playing games on the road. NAHL combine moved to CT, HNIB trying to find ice in NH, etc., so it's already happening. The youth season will start on time but we're likely to get some interesting game times as open rinks will have added pressure to come up with ice time.

Too early to call what will happen to High School sports. I could certainly see high risk fall sports moving to spring in an effort to salvage a season but I can also envision no contact sports being played under this very conservative administration. If there is a delay to the start of the HS hockey season in Massachusetts, you can bet that owners will come up some a way to take advantage perhaps offer some type of scrimmage season from Thanksgiving to Christmas to fill the void.
Love it!
I want to see this on a schedule-

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Re: MA Unlikely to Play this Fall

anon
I'm going to assume the MD is legit and it doesn't matter unless your player is only playing VHL or SSC. EHF-E9 will simply front load schedules for the first 1/4 to 1/2 of the season so all the MA/RI teams will be playing games on the road. NAHL combine moved to CT, HNIB trying to find ice in NH, etc., so it's already happening. The youth season will start on time but we're likely to get some interesting game times as open rinks will have added pressure to come up with ice time.

Too early to call what will happen to High School sports. I could certainly see high risk fall sports moving to spring in an effort to salvage a season but I can also envision no contact sports being played under this very conservative administration. If there is a delay to the start of the HS hockey season in Massachusetts, you can bet that owners will come up some a way to take advantage perhaps offer some type of scrimmage season from Thanksgiving to Christmas to fill the void.
We just signed up with the Seacoast Performance Academy so we have a season and also got a free truck load of fireworks to boot... it's a win-win

Re: MA Unlikely to Play this Fall

Again, I would encourage all of you to call and email your state reps, state senators and the governor as well. Let them know of your displeasure with what you're reading about kids sports and the upcoming school year. I have already done so but we need numbers. The governor is not likely to be moved as he is not up for election for another 2 years, but I'm sure your state reps will be motivated as they are up for election this year. If enough people call and apply pressure they are sure to get motivated and press the governor. Please call/email your elected officials!

Re: MA Unlikely to Play this Fall

to find your legislators and email them your thoughts go here:

https://malegislature.gov/Search/FindMyLegislator

Re: MA Unlikely to Play this Fall

northshorehockey
Again, I would encourage all of you to call and email your state reps, state senators and the governor as well. Let them know of your displeasure with what you're reading about kids sports and the upcoming school year. I have already done so but we need numbers. The governor is not likely to be moved as he is not up for election for another 2 years, but I'm sure your state reps will be motivated as they are up for election this year. If enough people call and apply pressure they are sure to get motivated and press the governor. Please call/email your elected officials!
I laughed at your naïveté in college and I’m laughing now. “Write your congressman” went out in the 60’s, right after they stopped giving a **** about anything that didn’t benefit them personally.

If Karyn Polito’s son Bobby played hockey it would be allowed now.

Re: MA Unlikely to Play this Fall

still you gotta try or there is ZERO chance of games. I made the call and sent an e-mail. Crickets so far (not unexpected)

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Contacting your elected officials is the first. Need to apply pressure in every form. There is safety in numbers. Sitting on your behind and posting snarky remarks will not get your kid on the ice. And, more importantly, it won't get you back to what you really love, which is posting snarky comments about 07's

Re: MA Unlikely to Play this Fall

northshorehockey
Again, I would encourage all of you to call and email your state reps, state senators and the governor as well. Let them know of your displeasure with what you're reading about kids sports and the upcoming school year. I have already done so but we need numbers. The governor is not likely to be moved as he is not up for election for another 2 years, but I'm sure your state reps will be motivated as they are up for election this year. If enough people call and apply pressure they are sure to get motivated and press the governor. Please call/email your elected officials!
Hey buddy, Baker is in his second term so he’s term limited and won’t be running again.

But speaking of NH. My kid’s lacrosse tournament in MA just got moved to NH. No big deal for us since it’s a 45 minute drive either way. It’s happening.

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"Hey buddy, Baker is in his second term so he’s term limited and won’t be running again."

Is that right?

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Biggy Biggy Biggy can’t you see sometimes your words just hypnotize me and I just love your flashy ways this is why they broke and you’re so paid

Re: MA Unlikely to Play this Fall

My oh my .... what will we ever do with kids having to play Hockey during .... the actual hockey season

Re: MA Unlikely to Play this Fall

anon
My oh my .... what will we ever do with kids having to play Hockey during .... the actual hockey season
The actual hockey season isn't going to happen in MA. If your still clinging to that hope after this week's announcements you're foolish.

Re: MA Unlikely to Play this Fall

It amazes me how many people think the season will happen next year.

Re: MA Unlikely to Play this Fall

Anon
It amazes me how many people think the season will happen next year.
It amazes me how many people think they won't.

Then again, it amazes me how many people cruise in the fast lane at 65 when there's nobody in front of or next to them.

You probably think I'm crazy as I buzz by you at 90 in my Porsche. Just like you think I'm crazy for knowing my kid is playing competitive hockey next week, next month, and in September.

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Truly spoken like a left wing never trumper.. Leagues/Teams will be creative in figuring out expansive skill sessions coupled with front loaded games out in NH and RI until the beginning of the year. Not an optimum solution but better that succumbing to the craziness of Gov Bakers rationale. Try walking around a Home Depot with about 200 people bouncing from aisle to aisle, go to a movie or better yet find your best threads and go do some hardcore protesting side by side with some other never trumpers but kids cant play ice hockey? Protesters were not only allowed but fully encouraged. So fed up with this non sense and the folks who get to decide who gets to do what primarily based on political beliefs and or how much tax revenue can be generated.

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OK realize this is a youth board so if little Johnny misses part of a squirt year its really no big deal even though parents will probably think its ruining his development. It's not and it wont matter at all 5 years from now.

The age groups that are getting screwed are the teenagers in the peak of their "draft" years for higher levels (like last year HS/Prep kids) who wont get noticed/scouted and cant turn back the clock. For youth hockey players this is nothing more than a frustrating inconvenience in the big picture.


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More ski days this season.

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Not one youth has died in Mass from COVID...It is not a threat...They get sick, the flu...just like any other day or any other flu..The percentages are ridiculous...Doc