Can't you follow a thread Is that too hard for you?
My son plays college hockey now He's in a second year and my daughter is a senior in high school she's already been picked for a college team I'm trying to give you youth hockey folks some advice All I'm telling you is our program did not allow girls to play with boys in second year bantams for good reason.
I still sit on the board of directors and that is our policy We have both girls teams and boys teams We just keep them separate and we have a very high rate of college hockey players and scholarships coming out of our program.


Do some research on the subject and do your daughter's a favor.

You've probably said, "She's pretty good for a girl..." SMDH

You aren't making an argument, just spouting your opinion. Thankfully there are plenty of options that don't include you, your program and your opinion.

My daughters benefited greatly from playing both years of Bantam hockey. YMMV

These are a good articles/posts, consider them:

https://www.champs.app/2021/03/what-are-the-pros-and-cons-of-girls-playing-boys-hockey/

https://www.theodysseyonline.com/15-things-girls-played-boys-hockey-teams-experienced

Jocelyn Lamoureux's masters thesis on the subject (you may have heard of her):

https://commons.und.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=2563&context=theses

Money quote: "In this study, it was found that participants felt boys, in general, competed harder than girls on
all girls’ teams when asked why they would recommend girls play with boys and what they found different from playing on a boys’ team compared to playing on a girls’ team. If boys competed harder and boys’ were better than girls, they would therefore spend more time at a vigorous activity level competing and trying to keep up. By playing in an environment that pushed competitiveness and ability, participants felt it helped them develop their skills and reach their full potential."

To be fair, this study only surveyed Female Olympic Hockey Players.

You sit on your program's BOD and your program doesn't allow a girl to play 14U Youth above 1st year 14U.

That sir is a violation of USA Hockey rules and regulations.

Girls are allowed to play at all levels of Youth Hockey even if a program has a Girls team at the same age.

Safe or not is the debate here but too many posters state their programs don't allow could get a program disciplined.

My guess is your daughter is an 08 defenseman on the south shore. If so, she absolutely belongs in boy's hockey. She should continue to play until she or you do not feel comfortable.

There are at least three girls playing 08 fed Elite who more than belong.

My daughter must've hurt your little boy. Sorry about that.

Nothing to gain, everything to lose: you want to risk a brain injury so you can brag that your daughter “plays with the boys”? Lol

Your daughter will not be seen playing boys hockey. No coach is going to waste her time going to a boys game to watch your girl “keep up”. She will go to a. Tier 1 girls game where she can look at 30 plus prospects. If your girl is “that good” would she be better off as a top line player on a tier 1 girls team or someone that “keeps up” with the boys?

Locker room dynamics are a different issue. If you’re okay with your 14 year old daughter being in a boys locker room, you’re a ******* idiot.

All the Harris that think they know better don’t know a thing about girls hockey.

Finally a person who understands the sport these Barbie moms are screwing everything up for the boys. She's peaked Amazon girls won't even make it into college hockey.
Wake up.

Don't have a girl so I can't comment too much but I will say this

1) My 14 year old is 6-1, 175 but he regularly competes with and against kids that are barely over 5 feet and a 100 lbs. I haven't seen any studies suggesting a girl is more susceptible to concussions than a boy so using your thought process, those small boys shouldn't be allowed to play hockey because of the size discrepancy.

2) I know a few parents with girls and not a single one of them plays ONLY boys hockey past squirts. They tell me that the girls teams don't play as many games so they augment with boys teams. I don't know if this is actually true but that's what they tell me. Their girls are also never alone with the boys in the locker room. I don't know if it impacts team dynamics but if it does, that's on the boys.

3) Why do you feel it necessary to lecture other parents on how to raise their child? Do you randomly stop people in the mall to tell them what they are doing wrong with their kid? This should have zero impact on you player and if it does, than your kid is the issue.

Based upon how upset you are, it's pretty obvious either your son or the son of a friend lost a spot on a squad to a female athlete. Tell your kid or your friends kid, work harder this season and earn a spot next year.

Because it's a double standard a boy can't play girls hockey but the girls can come clog up the program for boys mess up the locker room screw up game dynamic and practice dynamic. It's selfish that's why.
It's the reason we don't allow it in our program we've seen what happens through experience .

Sounds like you've found a program that aligns with your way of thinking, if you can call it that. So what's the problem?

Girls clog up the locker room dynamic? Exactly how? Sounds like your little bender is the one with the problem. My son had a girl on the team from mites through bantam. Not once was it an issue, and the girl and her family never once asked for special treatment. If it's not a problem for the girl, sounds like you're the one making it one.

Girls don't get concussions because they play with the boys. They get concussions because they more susceptible (for a variety of nuanced reasons).

Women's ice hockey has the 3rd most most concussions per games played of any sport, behind men's Rugby, and men's American football.

Concussions by Game Play
Men’s rugby match play (3.00/1,000 AE)
Men’s American football (2.5/1,000 AE)
Women’s ice hockey (2.27/1,000 AE)
Men’s Ice hockey (1.63/1,000 AE)
Women’s soccer (1.48/1,000 AE)
Men’s football (or soccer) (1.07/1,000 AE)

"This is especially interesting in sports like hockey. Women’s hockey is non-contact, but has a higher rate of concussion compared to men’s hockey – which is full body contact."

https://completeconcussions.com/2018/12/05/concussion-rates-what-sport-most-concussions/

Teach your players(male or female) how to make body contact correctly - there is an art to taking a hit, teach them that and reduce the concussions.

Interesting FACTS

If I had a girl good enough to play Bantam I would be concerned about some looney teen causing injury and maybe stifling a promising girl's hockey career.

Interesting article from a good source:

Girls Playing Boy's Hockey: No Easy Answers
By ANGELA RUGGIERO
General Hockey - Ice Sports
One of the questions I often get as I travel the country is "When, if ever, should girls play boy's hockey?" Usually, my answer is to make the switch if it is the right decision for the athlete.

Playing with boys: pros and cons

Although no two situations are exactly alike, my personal opinion is that if your daughter's goals are to play in the Olympics or to get a scholarship from an NCAA Division One school some day, playing boy's hockey for as long as she can is to her advantage, because boy's hockey is much more competitive. Boy's hockey is more competitive than girl's hockey just by virtue of the fact that boys tend to be naturally more competitive than girls (especially when they are competing against a girl!). Thus, girls who choose to play boy's hockey are going to be pushed more on a day-to-day basis, and that is naturally going to make them stronger hockey players.

I played boy's hockey from age 7 until I switched at the age of 14 to girl's hockey. But I made the switch primarily for academic reasons. When I was growing up in California, I didn't have the option of playing girl's hockey. There were no high school teams, period. When I found out that I could attend a prep school on the east coast and play girl's hockey, I made the switch so that I could get a great education, not to play girl's hockey. I probably could have continued to play boy's hockey through high school and then made the switch to women's hockey in college.

A key point for parents to understand, however, is that if at any time your daughter starts to become intimidated by the size and strength of the boys around her, it is time to switch to playing with girls. Around the age of puberty is when I tend to notice more girls making the switch to girl's hockey because it is at that point that boys start to become much more physical and stronger than girls; because body checking is allowed for boys, that size and strength advantage can intimidate a girl. If your girl is not intimidated, I would encourage her to keep playing with boys as long as she still enjoys it.

The one drawback to continuing to play boy's hockey in high school is that it makes it harder for her to be seen by college coaches and recruiters because coaches tend to flock to the girl's tournaments. Thus, you may have to be a lot more proactive during her junior and senior years in high school to make sure that she is on their radar screen. This means notifying schools when your child is playing in the area of the schools she is interested in, or sending a highlight video to the schools she wants to attend.
Playing with girls: pros and cons

There is also a case to be made for playing girl's hockey. There is naturally more camaraderie within a girl's team. If your daughter's goals are to have fun, stay in shape, develop her skills in the women's game, where checking is not allowed, and potentially get more ice time, then girl's hockey may be best for her. Take the example of the girl who plays 4th line on a boy's team. She may get to practice with the highly competitive boys every day of the week, but come game time, may only get a few minutes of ice time. That same girl, on a girls team, may get lots of ice time on the first line, power play, and penalty kill, giving her a better chance to develop her individual skills under game conditions than she would playing limited minutes on a boy's team. Remember: puck touches and ice time always equal a better hockey player.

If your daughter is a naturally gifted athlete, make sure she is also a highly motivated player. If she plays girl's hockey, she may need to push herself if the girls around her are not pushing her in practice. You always want to make sure her potential is being reached. Personally, I love playing with the girls. You can act more like yourself on the team and there is nothing like the dancing, singing, and cheering that you experience on a girl's team.

A personal decision

All in all, the decision has to be a personal one. As long as your daughter is developing as a player and enjoying herself, there is no right or wrong answer. Think of her goals and then tailor the decision to meet those goals.

Not a good source. Grew up durning a time, and in a place with no competitive girls hockey. If your only option for good competition is to play with boys, play with boys. With the growth of the girls sport, there are competitive teams in most markets. The game is far different on the girls side than it was even 10 years ago. Zero advantage to play boys at this point. Families who know don’t have their girls skating with the Neanderthals. (Boy and girl dad here, and honest enough to acknowledge that girls and boys are different, sorry libtards)

I thought it was a good source because if you really read it it's basically saying girls are better off playing with girls.

I mean I wonder how girls parents would feel if I marched my boy onto their team and took ice time away from them.. The double standard is sickening.

And you're right there are great girls programs out there that are much better for the girls development than mucking things up mixing them with the boys...after the age of 14 ..not before..IMO before is okay.. But once you get into the second year bantams onward then stick with the girls..

If you are concerned about a girl taking your son’s spot on a team, he must be really bad in hockey and should find a lower level team. It is none of your business if someone else’s daughter chooses to play on a boy’s program. It is between the family and the hockey program.

I actually think you should support your son if he wants to play on a girl’s team and can fit in. It is just unfortunate that the girls programs are not progressive enough to allow it, but I think it will change eventually.

My son plays college hockey now.. It's old news ..obviously you can't follow a thread girls play the slowest hockey and they jam up the dynamic of the boys team at that age.. My son would not check a girl They couldn't run plays the way they needed to when he played with a girl It sucked.

get your girl the hell out of the boys program stop ruining hockey ... PC libs..

I help out on one of the u14 club teams We have an Amazon girl on our team. She's slow/lethargic she can't handle the puck or really shoot. But she intimidates some of the players with her size in her long hair..

Her parents think she's God's gift to hockey.. unfortunately she's already peaked. It's sad because its a waste of space as far as I'm concerned. She's not even close to elite other parents think it's politically correct to say she's good because if they criticized her and spoke the truth her parents would have a field day .. we have to be PC and pretend we like it. Next thing you know she's going to be playing on the Nauset boys team the way the world is headed

I know her!

This thread started out bad and amazingly has only gotten worse

Your son may play college hockey, but intermural and club hockey don't count.

Whatever Tell that to Jerry.
Enjoy you rec program noob.

No chance your kid plays for Jerry York at BC and every single person on this thread, whether they agree or disagree with your misogynistic viewpoint, knows you are full of crap.

Don't be jealous just cuz I knew how to get him there and you don't.

Take the advice or don't stick with your little wreck program prop Barbie up.

I always tell my boy to go into the corners hard on girls that are still playing with the boys at Bantam. I always tell him. You never know. You might get lucky and find the five hole. How about them apples?

What apples?

There should be checking and no-checking leagues. It’s a pretty simple solution except then more boys would play the non-checking league and that would likely mean less spots for girls, who will want their own league again.

But at least having checking/non-checking would be more competitive and genderless which is what we all want right?

I personally have a son who just hadn’t grown yet. His skills are very high and he’s benefit from a more competitive league than playing on his town or bottom of the BHL team. It’s a shame having to go from top 2-3 in points on an EHF and E9 team to not playing “competitive” hockey because he simply hasn’t grown.

A non-checking league with better talent might be a great solution for players of any gender who want to develop and maintain skills.

What I find very ironic though is that the girls hockey world would absolutely never allow a boy to play on their teams. When it’s the other way, all hell breaks loose. Beside that, I don’t know many boys who wouldn’t bully another boy who plays for a girls team.

Again, the solution is really “hockey is for everyone”. Take out the gender. Checking or no-checking, and anyone can play whichever they want.