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Re: MHR

Give us the two teams involved if you want a real explanation. The rankings take into account opponents records and opponents opponents records, opponents opponents opponents records etc. Not just head to head and common opponents. That type of analysis is for the simples out there. There is no boost or drag for playing in elite vs upper gold. The bottom line is they probably hung with teams they shouldn't have and you either lost to or didn't beat teams by enough. I have 3 sons who have been through this and the common thread is it is better to lose to high ranked teams then to beat lower teams. Look at the horrific records in the top 10 of the 09 Mass rankings.

Re: MHR

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I see past explanations about how the MHR algorithm works etc. At face value it seems like bull****. We pla*** in a tournament this past weekend and went 5-0 and beat a team twice. I looked this morning and they went up 5 places and we went down 2 below them. Looking at teams that we both pla*** we beat them all and they lost to 2. What gives?
This is probably the same ass clown who was gloating about the Islander Tier 1 team having a winning record and TG Elite having a losing record at the CCM last weekend despite the fact that TG was playing far better competition.

Also, MHR at Peewee and below are only good for trying to find teams of relative equal skill when putting together tournament brackets. Any coach or parent who uses it for anything more is a ******* loser.

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MHR is heavily reliant on strength of schedule. What happened in the OP case is a team(s) that they beat earlier in the season got worst. Likewise the opponent they beat had teams the beat or even hung with get better thus their SoS is improved.

Re: MHR

National Bound teams should have play downs before they declare the top # of teams for state tournament. Organizations mani****ting the rankings should be fined.

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In simplest terms you didn't beat the spread, so even though you won, you didn't win by as much as you should have so you went down. They in turn did not get beaten as badly as originally predicted, so they move up accordingly. If you had pla*** to the exact spread, you both would have remained neutral.

More games against more teams helps the algorithm and hence is meaningless in the first two months. They basically say that themselves.

In theory, if you were the worst team in the age level to start, and lost every game, but pla*** only top 10/20 teams and lost by less than the spread every time your ranking would rocket way up. You could be a top 50 team and never win a game.

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Your movement up or down also depends on how well the teams you pla*** previously continue to do. If a team that’s a 90 when you beat them ends up dropping down to an 86 over time then the value of the win you had also drops over time. In fact all of the values from your previous games change over time as the rankings of the different teams you pla*** rise and fall. Therefore even if you win one weekend you might drop in the rankings because the teams you pla*** previously collectively did worse than expected. This is why when given a choice the top teams will only play other top teams. They insulate themselves from the unpredictable ups and downs that other teams below them in the rankings experience in MHR. It’s also why the top teams will travel long distances for games. Rumor has it the MHR developers are on the boards of a few major airlines. Joke. But maybe?