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Re: Lovell and the EHF

And all these kids go on to play D1 right? Jokes on the parents. They'll see

Re: Lovell and the EHF

Does it ever occur to people that some kids are just good players regardless of what league or team they're on ? Kind of like some kids are just smart regardless of what school they go to. It's called genetics.

Re: Lovell and the EHF

It works the same everywhere else. Chicago AAA teams can’t play certain teams. Michigan the same. These guys running these leagues aren’t dumb. They know how to make money. Don’t think for a second they care about anything more than that.

But BA is the same. Lovell is one of the most expensive products out there.and the vast majority of those kids are town level kids. Yes, the BA 11 team is very good and the little kid teams are great, but it’s more because of how much natural talent they have and the great coaches they have….not because of the ownership. If you transplanted those kids onto breakers teams, they’d have great breakers teams…

Re: Lovell and the EHF

Anon
It works the same everywhere else. Chicago AAA teams can’t play certain teams. Michigan the same. These guys running these leagues aren’t dumb. They know how to make money. Don’t think for a second they care about anything more than that.

But BA is the same. Lovell is one of the most expensive products out there.and the vast majority of those kids are town level kids. Yes, the BA 11 team is very good and the little kid teams are great, but it’s more because of how much natural talent they have and the great coaches they have….not because of the ownership. If you transplanted those kids onto breakers teams, they’d have great breakers teams…
Agreed. Someone finally makes a sensible post

Re: Lovell and the EHF

Anon
It works the same everywhere else. Chicago AAA teams can’t play certain teams. Michigan the same. These guys running these leagues aren’t dumb. They know how to make money. Don’t think for a second they care about anything more than that.

But BA is the same. Lovell is one of the most expensive products out there.and the vast majority of those kids are town level kids. Yes, the BA 11 team is very good and the little kid teams are great, but it’s more because of how much natural talent they have and the great coaches they have….not because of the ownership. If you transplanted those kids onto breakers teams, they’d have great breakers teams…
But they chose Lovell not the breakers. Lovell then assisted with their development. That says something right there. Sure they could leave and go somewhere else and that happens and then they often want to go back to Lovell.

Re: Lovell and the EHF

Spoken like a true Lovell

Re: Lovell and the EHF

Anon
anon
Does the EHF simply dislike Lovell? Lovell attempted to host a tournament in January where EHF teams were invited (younger kids) and all the teams had to say no stating that they weren't allowed due to EHF rules and could be fined $5k if they did. Really?

EHF and E9 teams do play each other in tournaments, but apparently a Lovell hosted event was a no. It was ok when it was the Exposure Event a few weeks ago but not a Lovell hosted event.

Do any of you understand how businesses stay profitable? Look up "market share", "monopoly", "proprietary". They don't make money off of warm and fuzzy bullsh/t ideology. I'd love to play e9 teams, switch to dish, and f#ck another woman too... grow up peter pan! Count chocula!
Well said. Count Chocula, indeed.

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Is the FED just restricting the Elite Division teams? Wondering if Tier 1 teams could join the tournament? The only thing that matters in the FED is Elite Division teams anyway.

Re: Lovell and the EHF

It is fed elite BA was looking to play. The kids are still in diapers as people here would say. It shouldn't be a big deal but apparently it is.

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It's interesting that the EHF 'allows' kids to play on junior bruins teams...with kids and coaches who come from the E9 as well. There's so many rules they seem to have but somehow that's ok.

Re: Lovell and the EHF

Anon
It's interesting that the EHF 'allows' kids to play on junior bruins teams...with kids and coaches who come from the E9 as well. There's so many rules they seem to have but somehow that's ok.
That is because EHF is actually a joke. Bandits, breakers and like 3 other teams at every age group suck. Same could be said about E9. Combine leagues and make each team parity in. Terriers 11s make it but not 10s probably. Same with BA. Each org has crap teams at different ages.

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EHF dad
Anon
It\'s interesting that the EHF \'allows\' kids to play on junior bruins teams...with kids and coaches who come from the E9 as well. There\'s so many rules they seem to have but somehow that\'s ok.
That is because EHF is actually a joke. Bandits, breakers and like 3 other teams at every age group suck. Same could be said about E9. Combine leagues and make each team parity in. Terriers 11s make it but not 10s probably. Same with BA. Each org has crap teams at different ages.
And bandits and breakers suck at each age group. They should just dissolve and become town programs.

Re: Lovell and the EHF

EHF dad
Anon
It\'s interesting that the EHF \'allows\' kids to play on junior bruins teams...with kids and coaches who come from the E9 as well. There\'s so many rules they seem to have but somehow that\'s ok.
That is because EHF is actually a joke. Bandits, breakers and like 3 other teams at every age group suck. Same could be said about E9. Combine leagues and make each team parity in. Terriers 11s make it but not 10s probably. Same with BA. Each org has crap teams at different ages.
The terriers 2010 team would beat every team in the E9. The Patriots are the only e9 2010 team that could come close to competing in the fed. And that is a stretch.

Re: Lovell and the EHF

Anon
It's interesting that the EHF 'allows' kids to play on junior bruins teams...with kids and coaches who come from the E9 as well. There's so many rules they seem to have but somehow that's ok.
the E9 kids on jr bruins get coached by an EHF elite coach as well...oh the horror. But EHF won't play E9/lovell in games. makes sense.

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EHF Elite doesn't play E9. never has never wil. Richard g says so. so u know

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The best part is when U14 comes, you all get thrown together and you realize that there's every bit the talent coming out of the in E9 as there is in the EHF.

The same people you're kicking the $hit out of now are going to wind up as teammates with your kid and you're going to realize how wrong you all were in saying one or the other was superior. None of them "suck" at all.

There is a ton of talent out there, and if you're level headed and not a jerk, you'll appreciate seeing some really good hockey.

The bigger difference I'll say is EHF Elite parents have paid a lot more than an E9 parent generally speaking with all of the out of state travel they tend to do.

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Not this year. My kid is an 09. There is absolutely zero comparison between talent at E9 and EHF. There are some good players in the E9. But the top u14 teams next year will be littered with EHF kids. There is a reason why Rats and Whalers go after EHF kids. There is a reason why Mount only scouts EHF games.

I will,say that after the top 20 percent ehf kids get taken out, the rest of the fed looks like the top 20% of e9 kids. But the top 20% kids is what makes the ehf so much better. The E9 doesn’t have kids like that. And the fed (minus bandits) doesn’t have bottom half e9 type kids. There is a significant difference in talent at 09 level.

Re: Lovell and the EHF

Anon
Not this year. My kid is an 09. There is absolutely zero comparison between talent at E9 and EHF. There are some good players in the E9. But the top u14 teams next year will be littered with EHF kids. There is a reason why Rats and Whalers go after EHF kids. There is a reason why Mount only scouts EHF games.

I will,say that after the top 20 percent ehf kids get taken out, the rest of the fed looks like the top 20% of e9 kids. But the top 20% kids is what makes the ehf so much better. The E9 doesn’t have kids like that. And the fed (minus bandits) doesn’t have bottom half e9 type kids. There is a significant difference in talent at 09 level.
Great take

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All these EHF/E9 threads are started by the same 14' baby blue daddy that wants to puff his chest how good their team is and how much Bandits/Breakers suck. He is right. They are good. Those teams aren't good. Diaper hockey though, doesn't matter at this age.

It gets old listening to the complaining about EHF/E9 though. It will be interesting to see if he is still here next year if the rumors that are starting to circle are true.

Re: Lovell and the EHF

ANON
All these EHF/E9 threads are started by the same 14' baby blue daddy that wants to puff his chest how good their team is and how much Bandits/Breakers suck. He is right. They are good. Those teams aren't good. Diaper hockey though, doesn't matter at this age.

It gets old listening to the complaining about EHF/E9 though. It will be interesting to see if he is still here next year if the rumors that are starting to circle are true.
Ha. They're not started by him. It's funny that people think owners and coaches would waste time coming here.

Re: Lovell and the EHF

I have never even heard anyone at Lovell so much as mention the bandits.

Re: Lovell and the EHF

ANON
All these EHF/E9 threads are started by the same 14' baby blue daddy that wants to puff his chest how good their team is and how much Bandits/Breakers suck. He is right. They are good. Those teams aren't good. Diaper hockey though, doesn't matter at this age.

It gets old listening to the complaining about EHF/E9 though. It will be interesting to see if he is still here next year if the rumors that are starting to circle are true.
That coach is actually too busy trying to find good teams for the kids to play than to be on here crying about things. You sound jealous too. Sorry your kid got cut. Nice trying to spread rumors about people on anonymous forums too.

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Bandits and breakers? At this point in time that BA 2014 is better than the majority of EHF 2014 elite teams. They won the exposure cup beating several EHF 'elite' teams and were placed in a higher division than some going into it ! Not saying it will stay that way for years to come but that's how it is now. *grabs popcorn*

Re: Lovell and the EHF

This thread is actually kind of embarrassing. Clearly started by a bored parent and i don't know what they were hoping to get out of this.

Re: Lovell and the EHF

How does that strategy for the Rats/Whalers work out? I see one Rats team winning the state tournament and not sure there's a Whalers that did at any Tier 1 level. It's all just about the same when it's all said and done.

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No Whalers at u14. But point is the same. At u15, best teams are mostly ex fed kids. Gap is much closer. But it still exists.

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So this has become a typical EHF is better than E9 thread again. This was really specifically about Lovell. Not the rest of the E9.

Re: Lovell and the EHF

Its funny how everyone tries to make the comparison between the two organizations and who is better.... check your rosters people, no matter what the fawking rules are, EHF gladly take lovell money to "alternate" and lovell does the same. get over it!

Re: Lovell and the EHF

Anon
Its funny how everyone tries to make the comparison between the two organizations and who is better.... check your rosters people, no matter what the fawking rules are, EHF gladly take lovell money to \"alternate\" and lovell does the same. get over it!
?? What

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My eyeball test - the teams that competed in the MA states this year for U15 (non-scientific):
1. Rats = mostly ex-EHF kids
2. Militia = mostly ex-EHF kids
3. Cape Cod Whalers= mostly ex-EHF kids
4. Eagles = mostly ex-EHF kids
5. 95 Giants = mix of ex- EH/E9 kids
6. BHA - mix of kids from everywhere
7. Top Gun = mix of kids from EHF/other
8. Wizards = mostly E9 Kids
9. NSWings = mix of kids from E9/other
10. Valley Warriors = mostly E9 kids
11. Patriots =mostly E9 kids
12. Jr. Thunderbirds = kids E9 / mix

Notable is that Lovell does not enter tournament bounds teams, so obviously is a major outlier.
But by the time the kids get to U14/U15 - the better teams are made up of the kids that played EHF. Would be interesting to see if that same pattern holds true for U16/U18 as the landscape again changes in that age band....

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Giants were BHL kids. Not E9. And were higher then Eagles.

Re: Lovell and the EHF

Anon
Not this year. My kid is an 09. There is absolutely zero comparison between talent at E9 and EHF. There are some good players in the E9. But the top u14 teams next year will be littered with EHF kids. There is a reason why Rats and Whalers go after EHF kids. There is a reason why Mount only scouts EHF games.

I will,say that after the top 20 percent ehf kids get taken out, the rest of the fed looks like the top 20% of e9 kids. But the top 20% kids is what makes the ehf so much better. The E9 doesn’t have kids like that. And the fed (minus bandits) doesn’t have bottom half e9 type kids. There is a significant difference in talent at 09 level.
In looking at rankings for 09 birth year here I fail to see how E9 doesn't compare?

https://myhockeyrankings.com/rank.php?d=MA&y=2022&v=125

EHF teams are ranked higher but to say E9 doesn't compare seems like a loaded statement. Overall this birth year doesn't seem great. A SSK platinum team is currently ranked #10 in MA.

Re: Lovell and the EHF

Anon
Not this year. My kid is an 09. There is absolutely zero comparison between talent at E9 and EHF. There are some good players in the E9. But the top u14 teams next year will be littered with EHF kids. There is a reason why Rats and Whalers go after EHF kids. There is a reason why Mount only scouts EHF games.

I will,say that after the top 20 percent ehf kids get taken out, the rest of the fed looks like the top 20% of e9 kids. But the top 20% kids is what makes the ehf so much better. The E9 doesn’t have kids like that. And the fed (minus bandits) doesn’t have bottom half e9 type kids. There is a significant difference in talent at 09 level.
Weird Mount was at 3 of my kids E9 games because he’s looking to find 4th liners from Rhode Island to be full payers so his golden boys can go for the donut.

Yes the team was the Saints