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Re: League question

I didn't say the town teams were competitive or at all on the same level as a true club/select team. I didn't mean to imply that. What I meant was that more kids should stay in town where the level of play and coaching is better suited to their abilities vs having the upper gold, lower gold, etc bs. If more kids did that, you'd have more evenly skilled town teams instead of the wide gaps you see now. However, you occasionally (rarely) see some towns where they do have a majority if not all club level kids and those are the best town teams that year. You're right though that the better club kids start to leave town because it becomes a waste of time and money and they pick up bad habits.

Re: League question

anon
anon
Why are there so many? There\'s EHF, E9, BHL and EHL??

Are valley jr warriors in EHL or E9?
Many moons ago there wasn't so many leagues. Town leagues were filled with competitive teams, and the best players tried out for the now defunct Metro Boston Hockey League (MBHL).
Worked well for years until some organizations realized that they can make $$$$ and be in total control starting their own league with the pitch "we can do it better".
Problem was no one did it better and it started the major dilution of talent across too many for-profit leagues. And here we are today.
^^^THIS^^^

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anon
anon
anon
Why are there so many? There\\\'s EHF, E9, BHL and EHL??

Are valley jr warriors in EHL or E9?
Many moons ago there wasn\'t so many leagues. Town leagues were filled with competitive teams, and the best players tried out for the now defunct Metro Boston Hockey League (MBHL).
Worked well for years until some organizations realized that they can make $$$$ and be in total control starting their own league with the pitch \"we can do it better\".
Problem was no one did it better and it started the major dilution of talent across too many for-profit leagues. And here we are today.
^^^THIS^^^
The good news is that eventually some leagues will fail and consolidate.
The bad news is that the kids caught in the wake of this will suffer.
Worse, nature hates a vacuum, so some other group will quickly seize the opportunity and create a new league replacing the failed one.

Re: League question

You people realize that there are WAY more kids playing hockey now than there were when we were kids right? More kids = more teams = more leagues. Also a larger talent pool means more high-end kids, breading more competition and ultimately making the game better. In case you haven’t noticed the skill level in the NHL is far higher now than it was even 10 to 15 years ago.

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Anon
You people realize that there are WAY more kids playing hockey now than there were when we were kids right? More kids = more teams = more leagues. Also a larger talent pool means more high-end kids, breading more competition and ultimately making the game better. In case you haven’t noticed the skill level in the NHL is far higher now than it was even 10 to 15 years ago.
Are there more kids playing hockey now? I honestly don't know. There are certainly more teams/leagues but many parents are more fearful these days of aggressive sports like football and hockey. I do see more girls playing today than ever before.

I live in a pretty affluent town and I've noticed the younger kids play town hockey, some play for a non competitive club team in the area but that's about it. Many of the parents I've talked to said they didn't want to deal with getting up early or the weekend travel, others said they'd rather go skiing.

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If you don't think there are more kids playing hockey now vs the hayday of the MBHL you are completely tapped.

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ANON
If you don't think there are more kids playing hockey now vs the hayday of the MBHL you are completely tapped.
Nah I'm not tapped. People have less kids today in case you haven't noticed in additional to all the fear mongering around CTE and hockey being dangerous. More leagues and teams has created an illusion of more kids playing hockey. The only reason there might be more kids playing hockey today is that there are girls playing now.

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anon
ANON
If you don\'t think there are more kids playing hockey now vs the hayday of the MBHL you are completely tapped.
Nah I'm not tapped. People have less kids today in case you haven't noticed in additional to all the fear mongering around CTE and hockey being dangerous. More leagues and teams has created an illusion of more kids playing hockey. The only reason there might be more kids playing hockey today is that there are girls playing now.
Do some research. Hockey parti****tion in US has more than doubled since 1990.

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Anon
anon
ANON
If you don\\\'t think there are more kids playing hockey now vs the hayday of the MBHL you are completely tapped.
Nah I\'m not tapped. People have less kids today in case you haven\'t noticed in additional to all the fear mongering around CTE and hockey being dangerous. More leagues and teams has created an illusion of more kids playing hockey. The only reason there might be more kids playing hockey today is that there are girls playing now.
Do some research. Hockey parti****tion in US has more than doubled since 1990.
because of girls

Re: League question

anon
Anon
anon
ANON
If you don\\\\\\\'t think there are more kids playing hockey now vs the hayday of the MBHL you are completely tapped.
Nah I\\\'m not tapped. People have less kids today in case you haven\\\'t noticed in additional to all the fear mongering around CTE and hockey being dangerous. More leagues and teams has created an illusion of more kids playing hockey. The only reason there might be more kids playing hockey today is that there are girls playing now.
Do some research. Hockey parti****tion in US has more than doubled since 1990.
because of girls
Overall US is going to be up with new markets like a vegas, florida, California etc…is it up in the northeast?

Re: League question

Anon
anon
Anon
anon
ANON
If you don\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\'t think there are more kids playing hockey now vs the hayday of the MBHL you are completely tapped.
Nah I\\\\\\\'m not tapped. People have less kids today in case you haven\\\\\\\'t noticed in additional to all the fear mongering around CTE and hockey being dangerous. More leagues and teams has created an illusion of more kids playing hockey. The only reason there might be more kids playing hockey today is that there are girls playing now.
Do some research. Hockey parti****tion in US has more than doubled since 1990.
because of girls
Overall US is going to be up with new markets like a vegas, florida, California etc…is it up in the northeast?
Good points that other states seem to have an increase in hockey players. In MA I assume numbers are up mostly because of girls. I think hockey is more expensive than it was before and also more time consuming. More travel at younger ages. I can see why someone might say no thanks to it.

People on this forum seem to think everyone is doing expensive club travel teams in MA but this isn't the case. Maybe everyone posting here does but that's not a huge amount of people. Plenty of kids you see playing now who are under 10 will not keep playing.

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Anon
anon
Anon
anon
ANON
If you don\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\'t think there are more kids playing hockey now vs the hayday of the MBHL you are completely tapped.
Nah I\\\\\\\'m not tapped. People have less kids today in case you haven\\\\\\\'t noticed in additional to all the fear mongering around CTE and hockey being dangerous. More leagues and teams has created an illusion of more kids playing hockey. The only reason there might be more kids playing hockey today is that there are girls playing now.
Do some research. Hockey parti****tion in US has more than doubled since 1990.
because of girls
Overall US is going to be up with new markets like a vegas, florida, California etc…is it up in the northeast?
I'm only willing to do so much research but here you go
2002/3 Paid USA Hockey Members 35,942
2010/11 Paid USA Hockey Members 38,083
2021/22 Paid USA Hockey Members 40,100

2002/03 Paid Girls 6,153
2010/11 Paid Girls 9,102
2021/22 Paid Girls 11,452

Data suggests the boys pretty much held steady for the last two decades and growth came from the girls game. I'm sure if I someone wanted to, they could chase down the Google rabbit hole for even older data but I don't actually care enough about this, just something to do while on a useless conference call.

On a side note, experienced officials are down, pretty much held steady from 02/3 to 10/11 with approximately 1,100 Level 2 & 3 officials, 2021/22 approximately 750.

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This data shows a similar increase (5000 kids) between boys and girls over 20 years.

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ANON
If you don't think there are more kids playing hockey now vs the hayday of the MBHL you are completely tapped.
Why the need to be such a DB? Maybe that poster wasn't paying attention to things then or didn't have kids playing back then. Thank god you're here to set everyone straight.

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Hilarious reading posts from parents who actually mine data on youth teams and how they are ranked. Nobody outside the parent group cares. It does not matter to anyone. Losers

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Larry
Hilarious reading posts from parents who actually mine data on youth teams and how they are ranked. Nobody outside the parent group cares. It does not matter to anyone. Losers
Also, we only care about FED elite. This league looks like garbage. Just play town hockey for less $$$$. Unless you are top 50 don't spend money on it.

Re: League question

Anon
Larry
Hilarious reading posts from parents who actually mine data on youth teams and how they are ranked. Nobody outside the parent group cares. It does not matter to anyone. Losers
Also, we only care about FED elite. This league looks like garbage. Just play town hockey for less $$$$. Unless you are top 50 don't spend money on it.
Why only care about fed elite? Plenty of kid son fed elite teams going nowhere.

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STFU. That is the reason everyone comes here. No one wants to hear about NESHL which no one has heard of until today. It is silly that people join these new leagues and pay. Why do we need a new league with 4 already. They need to consolidate. People don't join this league of garbage teams. The poster above was right some teams were competitive with UG and crappy platinum. At that point just go to FED UG or platinum. You also have the E9, BHL, and PHL.

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I don't think it's a league. I think it is a single 2011 division. Seems like these teams just got together and created their own thing. There is nothing at any other level. I also think that some of these posts are saying that they are better than said BHL, T1 UG, G, PHL as well as most T1 Platinum and E9.

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Is the league really that important? Why not just find a good team with a good coach near your house and go from there? A league doesn't make someone a better player.

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anon
Is the league really that important? Why not just find a good team with a good coach near your house and go from there? A league doesn't make someone a better player.
What? Do you seriously think the speed and competition your kid plays against doesn’t matter? If that’s what you think stay at town, doesn’t matter. But even if your kid just wants to be competitive in high school, it still matters. You will eventually see why.

Re: League question

Anon
anon
Is the league really that important? Why not just find a good team with a good coach near your house and go from there? A league doesn\'t make someone a better player.
What? Do you seriously think the speed and competition your kid plays against doesn’t matter? If that’s what you think stay at town, doesn’t matter. But even if your kid just wants to be competitive in high school, it still matters. You will eventually see why.
So you place the most value on the weekend games and the 20/30 minutes that your kid gets on the ice?

Re: League question

Anon
anon
Is the league really that important? Why not just find a good team with a good coach near your house and go from there? A league doesn\'t make someone a better player.
What? Do you seriously think the speed and competition your kid plays against doesn’t matter? If that’s what you think stay at town, doesn’t matter. But even if your kid just wants to be competitive in high school, it still matters. You will eventually see why.
Yes & No. In the prehistoric days, the best kids played Metro so the league certainly helped better players develop beyond their peers as it was best on best competition & practices. Today, the better leagues (EHF Elite/E9) get the kids more attention, therefore creating more opportunities for players but as has been pointed out too many times to count, many of the players on these teams are interchangeable with others. If your kid is playing second line/second pairing or lower on a highly ranked team, understand that he's good but not elite & interchangeable with lots of other players. Take advantage of as many opportunities being on that team brings your player to build recognition as it will make a difference in his Bantam + years.

Re: League question

anon
Anon
anon
Is the league really that important? Why not just find a good team with a good coach near your house and go from there? A league doesn\\\'t make someone a better player.
What? Do you seriously think the speed and competition your kid plays against doesn’t matter? If that’s what you think stay at town, doesn’t matter. But even if your kid just wants to be competitive in high school, it still matters. You will eventually see why.
Yes & No. In the prehistoric days, the best kids played Metro so the league certainly helped better players develop beyond their peers as it was best on best competition & practices. Today, the better leagues (EHF Elite/E9) get the kids more attention, therefore creating more opportunities for players but as has been pointed out too many times to count, many of the players on these teams are interchangeable with others. If your kid is playing second line/second pairing or lower on a highly ranked team, understand that he's good but not elite & interchangeable with lots of other players. Take advantage of as many opportunities being on that team brings your player to build recognition as it will make a difference in his Bantam + years.
No one is saying speed and competition don't matter. For BA it would be great to have some better competition within the E9, but many don't see it as a reason to leave BA. Do you think when BA plays other E9 teams the other E9 teams stand there and do nothing?

At the younger ages kids get better at practice and skill sessions - not in playing against a team that is better than them (or not) for 20 minutes.

There are plenty of top EHF teams don't get much competition either in the league.

Re: League question

I had never heard of NESHL until this thread, but based on its name I assume it's just a second team/extra ice time for these players. Nothing wrong with that.

Re: League question

Why do people laugh at or always put down any league that isn't the fed here? Should the fed be the only league in existence?

Re: League question

anon
Why do people laugh at or always put down any league that isn't the fed here? Should the fed be the only league in existence?
Yes it should.

Re: League question

EHF dad
anon
Why do people laugh at or always put down any league that isn\'t the fed here? Should the fed be the only league in existence?
Yes it should.
How boring would that be though

Re: League question

anon
EHF dad
anon
Why do people laugh at or always put down any league that isn\\\'t the fed here? Should the fed be the only league in existence?
Yes it should.
How boring would that be though
Why? That is all we really care about. If your bender made a FED elite team you would go?

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anon
Anon
Larry
Hilarious reading posts from parents who actually mine data on youth teams and how they are ranked. Nobody outside the parent group cares. It does not matter to anyone. Losers
Also, we only care about FED elite. This league looks like garbage. Just play town hockey for less $$$$. Unless you are top 50 don\'t spend money on it.
Why only care about fed elite? Plenty of kid son fed elite teams going nowhere.
True but it is the best league in area. Just play town if not in the league.

Re: League question

Anon
anon
Anon
Larry
Hilarious reading posts from parents who actually mine data on youth teams and how they are ranked. Nobody outside the parent group cares. It does not matter to anyone. Losers
Also, we only care about FED elite. This league looks like garbage. Just play town hockey for less $$$$. Unless you are top 50 don\\\'t spend money on it.
Why only care about fed elite? Plenty of kid son fed elite teams going nowhere.
True but it is the best league in area. Just play town if not in the league.
No thanks.

Re: League question

anon
Why are there so many? There\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\'s EHF, E9, BHL and EHL??

Are valley jr warriors in EHL or E9?
The problem is that nowadays people are willing to spend more to buy the “best” experience for their children. Play both club and town, so that Johnny can play better completion and also have fun with classmates. When conflict arises, there is an easy solution: abandon the town teammates. Other families will simply follow their steps and seek out club teams for better experience.

Town programs have the advantage of being more affordable and closer to home. If the people in charge are more serious about family commitment and do not allow full time club players on their top teams, many of the problems could be solved.

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Anon
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Are valley jr warriors in EHL or E9?
The problem is that nowadays people are willing to spend more to buy the “best” experience for their children. Play both club and town, so that Johnny can play better completion and also have fun with classmates. When conflict arises, there is an easy solution: abandon the town teammates. Other families will simply follow their steps and seek out club teams for better experience.

Town programs have the advantage of being more affordable and closer to home. If the people in charge are more serious about family commitment and do not allow full time club players on their top teams, many of the problems could be solved.
Oh yes and people abandon club teams for other club teams as well.

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Are valley jr warriors in EHL or E9?
The problem is that nowadays people are willing to spend more to buy the “best” experience for their children. Play both club and town, so that Johnny can play better completion and also have fun with classmates. When conflict arises, there is an easy solution: abandon the town teammates. Other families will simply follow their steps and seek out club teams for better experience.

Town programs have the advantage of being more affordable and closer to home. If the people in charge are more serious about family commitment and do not allow full time club players on their top teams, many of the problems could be solved.
Oh yes and people abandon club teams for other club teams as well.
It happens but not as common in club hockey. a higher level of commitment is expected for any serious club team.

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Are valley jr warriors in EHL or E9?
The problem is that nowadays people are willing to spend more to buy the “best” experience for their children. Play both club and town, so that Johnny can play better completion and also have fun with classmates. When conflict arises, there is an easy solution: abandon the town teammates. Other families will simply follow their steps and seek out club teams for better experience.

Town programs have the advantage of being more affordable and closer to home. If the people in charge are more serious about family commitment and do not allow full time club players on their top teams, many of the problems could be solved.
Oh yes and people abandon club teams for other club teams as well.
It happens but not as common in club hockey. a higher level of commitment is expected for any serious club team.
hmm, well I have seen 7 and 8 year olds changing club teams already.

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You can change club teams as often as you want, but you are expected to attend practices and games when you are with a team.

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Anon
You can change club teams as often as you want, but you are expected to attend practices and games when you are with a team.
I think the question is why do some feel the need to change club teams multiple times. Seems like a red flag. Either you don't get along with people, you think your kid is too good for the team or you think your kid stinks and would do better on another team. Either way, no bueno.

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Anon
anon
Why are there so many? There\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\'s EHF, E9, BHL and EHL??

Are valley jr warriors in EHL or E9?
The problem is that nowadays people are willing to spend more to buy the “best” experience for their children. Play both club and town, so that Johnny can play better completion and also have fun with classmates. When conflict arises, there is an easy solution: abandon the town teammates. Other families will simply follow their steps and seek out club teams for better experience.

Town programs have the advantage of being more affordable and closer to home. If the people in charge are more serious about family commitment and do not allow full time club players on their top teams, many of the problems could be solved.
When our town said you can't do both it created an exodus and the town program was left with really low numbers and made it very hard to compete, which made more people leave. They are considering a game only model, which would bring numbers back and make the town teams more competitive - albeit re-introducing the conflict dilemma. Proliferation of club hockey at such varied levels is a real problem across the board.

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Why hate club? Seems to work. All greats played club. Don't let the press fool you into thinking these people played town. Kids that are good want to play against other good kids. Town doesn't offer that. Watch FED elite and town and tell me you don't see a difference. Towns need to figure out how to coexist. New leagues are dumb just play town.

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Elite level club isn't the problem at all, in fact it's great that the better players get the opportunity to play against equal competition. The depth of club is the problem, at a certain level all of the kids in the lower leagues should just be playing town - which will actually improve town development because it will re-centralize the talent again and stop it from being so diluted across BHL, rainbows, phl, etc.

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Anon
Elite level club isn't the problem at all, in fact it's great that the better players get the opportunity to play against equal competition. The depth of club is the problem, at a certain level all of the kids in the lower leagues should just be playing town - which will actually improve town development because it will re-centralize the talent again and stop it from being so diluted across BHL, rainbows, phl, etc.
It would be great if there was a league for the kids at the top of their birth year across leagues.

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anon
Anon
Elite level club isn\'t the problem at all, in fact it\'s great that the better players get the opportunity to play against equal competition. The depth of club is the problem, at a certain level all of the kids in the lower leagues should just be playing town - which will actually improve town development because it will re-centralize the talent again and stop it from being so diluted across BHL, rainbows, phl, etc.
It would be great if there was a league for the kids at the top of their birth year across leagues.
exactly - and do it by geography / region so kids aren't travelling all over to make the weakest elite team. Idea is you make your regional select team or you play for your town.

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Anon
anon
Anon
Elite level club isn\\\'t the problem at all, in fact it\\\'s great that the better players get the opportunity to play against equal competition. The depth of club is the problem, at a certain level all of the kids in the lower leagues should just be playing town - which will actually improve town development because it will re-centralize the talent again and stop it from being so diluted across BHL, rainbows, phl, etc.
It would be great if there was a league for the kids at the top of their birth year across leagues.
exactly - and do it by geography / region so kids aren't travelling all over to make the weakest elite team. Idea is you make your regional select team or you play for your town.
Yes the problem seems to be that all of the better kids flock to one team. I thought the goal was to have teams evenly distributed across leagues but that is not the case.

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Anon
anon
Anon
Elite level club isn\\\'t the problem at all, in fact it\\\'s great that the better players get the opportunity to play against equal competition. The depth of club is the problem, at a certain level all of the kids in the lower leagues should just be playing town - which will actually improve town development because it will re-centralize the talent again and stop it from being so diluted across BHL, rainbows, phl, etc.
It would be great if there was a league for the kids at the top of their birth year across leagues.
exactly - and do it by geography / region so kids aren't travelling all over to make the weakest elite team. Idea is you make your regional select team or you play for your town.
What you are essentially wishing for is the previously mentioned Metro League and it or something similar isn't coming back in the next decade.

Folks, put your kids where you want, jump teams as often as you desire, etc. It's your money, do as you please and if others want to judge you, f them.

My only advice to those who haven't been through all of this before, remember, I don't care if your MHR ranking is #1, the best youth "elite" teams in MA/NH have no more than 5 elite players on them. I'm defining elite as kids that will play D-I college or higher, the other ten kids on a team, one or two more might play D-III but that's it. That's on the best elite teams, the bottom teams might not have any actual elite players on them.

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EHF dad
Why hate club? Seems to work. All greats played club. Don't let the press fool you into thinking these people played town. Kids that are good want to play against other good kids. Town doesn't offer that. Watch FED elite and town and tell me you don't see a difference. Towns need to figure out how to coexist. New leagues are dumb just play town.
I think the thing is that anyone can play for a club team. It's not like you're special if you play for a club team, it just means your parents are more invested and chose to spend more money and travel more. Im not putting club down but that's the truth.

Are there kids on club teams that happen to be very good? yes, some are, but don't be fooled into thinking they all are. There are kids on fed elite that aren't impressive.

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anon
EHF dad
Why hate club? Seems to work. All greats played club. Don\'t let the press fool you into thinking these people played town. Kids that are good want to play against other good kids. Town doesn\'t offer that. Watch FED elite and town and tell me you don\'t see a difference. Towns need to figure out how to coexist. New leagues are dumb just play town.
I think the thing is that anyone can play for a club team. It's not like you're special if you play for a club team, it just means your parents are more invested and chose to spend more money and travel more. Im not putting club down but that's the truth.

Are there kids on club teams that happen to be very good? yes, some are, but don't be fooled into thinking they all are. There are kids on fed elite that aren't impressive.
True, but FED elite right now has the highest concentration of good kids. I agree, don't make elite FED save your money and play town. Get rid of E9, BHL, PHL and NESHL.

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Anon
anon
EHF dad
Why hate club? Seems to work. All greats played club. Don\\\'t let the press fool you into thinking these people played town. Kids that are good want to play against other good kids. Town doesn\\\'t offer that. Watch FED elite and town and tell me you don\\\'t see a difference. Towns need to figure out how to coexist. New leagues are dumb just play town.
I think the thing is that anyone can play for a club team. It\'s not like you\'re special if you play for a club team, it just means your parents are more invested and chose to spend more money and travel more. Im not putting club down but that\'s the truth.

Are there kids on club teams that happen to be very good? yes, some are, but don\'t be fooled into thinking they all are. There are kids on fed elite that aren\'t impressive.
True, but FED elite right now has the highest concentration of good kids. I agree, don't make elite FED save your money and play town. Get rid of E9, BHL, PHL and NESHL.
so where would some of the better teams in the E9 go then? Those orgs aren't going away.

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Anon
anon
EHF dad
Why hate club? Seems to work. All greats played club. Don\\\'t let the press fool you into thinking these people played town. Kids that are good want to play against other good kids. Town doesn\\\'t offer that. Watch FED elite and town and tell me you don\\\'t see a difference. Towns need to figure out how to coexist. New leagues are dumb just play town.
I think the thing is that anyone can play for a club team. It\'s not like you\'re special if you play for a club team, it just means your parents are more invested and chose to spend more money and travel more. Im not putting club down but that\'s the truth.

Are there kids on club teams that happen to be very good? yes, some are, but don\'t be fooled into thinking they all are. There are kids on fed elite that aren\'t impressive.
True, but FED elite right now has the highest concentration of good kids. I agree, don't make elite FED save your money and play town. Get rid of E9, BHL, PHL and NESHL.
You don't want that because that, all those added players coming from other programs would undoubtedly cost your kid his spot on the team. Then what would you do with that team jacket?

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anon
Anon
anon
EHF dad
Why hate club? Seems to work. All greats played club. Don\\\\\\\'t let the press fool you into thinking these people played town. Kids that are good want to play against other good kids. Town doesn\\\\\\\'t offer that. Watch FED elite and town and tell me you don\\\\\\\'t see a difference. Towns need to figure out how to coexist. New leagues are dumb just play town.
I think the thing is that anyone can play for a club team. It\\\'s not like you\\\'re special if you play for a club team, it just means your parents are more invested and chose to spend more money and travel more. Im not putting club down but that\\\'s the truth.

Are there kids on club teams that happen to be very good? yes, some are, but don\\\'t be fooled into thinking they all are. There are kids on fed elite that aren\\\'t impressive.
True, but FED elite right now has the highest concentration of good kids. I agree, don\'t make elite FED save your money and play town. Get rid of E9, BHL, PHL and NESHL.
You don't want that because that, all those added players coming from other programs would undoubtedly cost your kid his spot on the team. Then what would you do with that team jacket?
What you uneducated F u c k? I baby text you do good job.

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Anon
anon
Anon
anon
EHF dad
Why hate club? Seems to work. All greats played club. Don\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\'t let the press fool you into thinking these people played town. Kids that are good want to play against other good kids. Town doesn\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\'t offer that. Watch FED elite and town and tell me you don\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\'t see a difference. Towns need to figure out how to coexist. New leagues are dumb just play town.
I think the thing is that anyone can play for a club team. It\\\\\\\'s not like you\\\\\\\'re special if you play for a club team, it just means your parents are more invested and chose to spend more money and travel more. Im not putting club down but that\\\\\\\'s the truth.

Are there kids on club teams that happen to be very good? yes, some are, but don\\\\\\\'t be fooled into thinking they all are. There are kids on fed elite that aren\\\\\\\'t impressive.
True, but FED elite right now has the highest concentration of good kids. I agree, don\\\'t make elite FED save your money and play town. Get rid of E9, BHL, PHL and NESHL.
You don\'t want that because that, all those added players coming from other programs would undoubtedly cost your kid his spot on the team. Then what would you do with that team jacket?
What you uneducated F u c k? I baby text you do good job.
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What, why are you triggered?