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I finally upgraded my arsenal of fishing equipment to include a couple Cannon downriggers for my boat. I have primarily used lead core line with over sized rods and reels for trolling thus far and could use some help with the downriggers. Here's a few questions I have...
#1. When trolling for early season salmon how far behind the weight should I troll my fly / lure. Do you change this distance when fishing deeper say for Lakers??
#2. What lb test monofilament line should I use? Is flurocarbon better to use with a release?
#3. Do flash attractors such as a Davis Spinner work well with downriggers or are they a nuisance. If they work what is the best way to hook them up?
#4. I am thinking of changing out the standard Cannon releases for a chamberlain release, good or bad idea??
Thanks in advance for the help!!
I can only give a good answer to number 4. Chamberlain releases are just plain awesome. I have the standard and the new stackers and love them.
Downriggers will make a fine addition to your arsenal but don't throw away your leadcore set ups.We use both all season long.In the early season you are fishing the upper water column and the riggers aren't really needed but they shine as the seasonal water temp increases.We vary our set ups one we run naked the other with blades to start and change up when we find out what they like for the day.The naked one we run from 60-100 ft behind the weight for the blades 5-10 ft behind the last blade this makes your lure look like an easy target away from the main pod of fish.We leave the set up the same if we put it down to laker land we just go as slow as possible for them.(they don't like to chase their food lol)I like chappy's attractors(school o smelt)I like to use 8 lb flourocarbon and fairchase Jerry likes to use 6 lb.I like the chamberlan release on the naked set up,with the blades you need a vertical attracter for it unless he finally has the new chamberlan out in the stores? We like to use romas above the attracters right now.Thats it from me.....good luck polebreaker
#1. Try the 100 foot Rule for your downriggers. If your ball is down 10 feet put the lure 90 feet behind the ball. If the ball is down 60 feet put the lure 40 feet behind the ball. This rule doesn't work if you are running flashers/attractors. Then you only want to be 5-10 feet behind the attractors.
#2. I usually run 8 or 10 lb test on my downrigger rods. 10 lb seems to take the abuse better. I like to run a small swivel to about 10 feet of 6 or 8 lb. flourocarbon leader. I usually just run Trilene regular line for my main line.
#3. I personally do not use the flashers a whole lot but a lot of people do and I would like to start using them more. A lot of people like the vertical flashers. See AJ's for some of them. As far as hooking them up they usually go between the wire and the ball (vertical) or off the end of the ball (horizontal).
#4. Chamberlin releases are great!
Good luck with your new toys. One other piece of advice is to go out with someone else that has them on their boat to learn how they operate.
I agree with everything that fishRman said... those are great tips to help you get started.
- Early spring when the fish are high make sure your line is further back than normal... this has served me well. I have however on occasion, had strikes dropping line out or bringing it in right in the prop wash. Another tip that I have lived by is, I never drop my riggers deeper than 20' in the first 2 months of fishing... I just haven't found it necessary yet.
As for line 8-10 lb main line mono with a 4-6-8 lb floro leader. I use 8 in Champlain and 4-6 on Winni.
With the flashers, I run horizontal and vertical sometimes, sometimes nothing, for me it depends on the day...
Just what has worked for me!
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near the surface i put the lure way back.
20 feet and deeper i put the lure 6 to 20 feet back from the release abot 2 feet over a davis rig attached to the ball.
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Thanks for the info guy's! It is appreciated!
Jim's rod pumper is 'great' and he stands behind it.
Also Jim's umbrella rigs, both vertical/horizontal, are a designed for trolling.
I run 8# mono to a small swivel to 8-12 feet of 6# Seagar floro leader. It made a huge difference for me over just 8# mono all the way to the lure.
I only use flashers as I go deeper after the first 2 months of the season. I do use them with my chamberlain release but had to get creative. I run my DR cable to the top of the chamberlain then have a 2-3 feet section of light chain that connects the bottom of my chamberlain to my DR ball and the flasher off the ball. The chain gives me the seperation I need from the flasher to the lure. When using vertical flashers, I can use this in place of the chain.
I like that 100 foot rule mentioned above. I have always just put my lure back 85-105 feet when not using flashers.
I also agree that you should stay with the leadcore. Over the years, leadcore has outfished DRs 5-1. Since you have oversized rods, you can use the Offshore inline planer boards to pull the LC rigs out from the boat and cover more water. Plus the planer boards give even more action to your bait. It does take some experience to pick up light strikes on the boards though. I am thinking of going to a mast this year though just for the convenience and so I can run 4 LC setups or 2 LCs and 2 fly rods off the planers.